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Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:26 pm**

What happened to this?

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... all-rumors

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:34 pm**

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:35 pm**

The person who sometimes feeds me info has nothing for me in regards to Miller.

Although they did say that according to people who know him, Miller hasn’t been talking/acting like he’s about to get shitcanned. In fact, quite the opposite.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:39 pm**

Miller is building a top 25 team right now. It’s either going to be here or somewhere else.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:47 pm**

I'm starting to doubt these rumors. Original source said last night or today was the day. Nothing of real light or real significance is coming out about this. I'm thinking the most likely thing to happen is Miller coaches out his contract without an extention unfortunately

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:50 pm**

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:45 pm This is a dark time for Arizona basketball but I'll never stop watching and cheering on my Cats.

I'd like to feel like that, but at a certain point they stop being my Cats and they become BobBob's Cats.

If this was a deserved thing where you earned your way in or out, fine. When it's the whims of the president that matter more than anything, I'm not ok with that.

For any institution, I can follow for a while, but there becomes a point where it's sick beyond repair. Back to back crony hires in football and basketball is my tipping point.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:56 pm**

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:47 pm I'm starting to doubt these rumors. Original source said last night or today was the day. Nothing of real light or real significance is coming out about this. I'm thinking the most likely thing to happen is Miller coaches out his contract without an extention unfortunately

I've thought this too, but Choo seemed to confirm that there's bad news coming. And unless I'm mistaken, he's got the most reliable contacts within the athletic department.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:57 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:56 pm
BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:47 pm I'm starting to doubt these rumors. Original source said last night or today was the day. Nothing of real light or real significance is coming out about this. I'm thinking the most likely thing to happen is Miller coaches out his contract without an extention unfortunately
I've thought this too, but Choo seemed to confirm that there's bad news coming. And unless I'm mistaken, he's got the most reliable contacts within the athletic department.

Oh shit you're right. I forgot he said something about it yesterday or this morning or so. Shit. Thanks Robbins for ruining my favorite sports teams to follow

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:09 pm**

Choo never said it was a done deal

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:27 pm**

I can't help but remember that Robbins sprung no post season on Miller without consulting him, so I wouldn't exactly be shocked if he decides to fire Miller without given him any indication.

No inside info, just giving my two cents.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:35 pm**

What has me worried is the tweets from people in northwest about Lloyd.
If all the guesses were coming from locals or FESPN people I wouldn’t worry as much.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm**

I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:42 pm**

ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?

I imagine the idea of going from assistant coach at Gonzaga to head coach at a major P5 program is like dangling shiny keys in front of a small child.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:44 pm**

All this negotiating with Lloyd was going on while he was in Indy coaching at the FF and Robbins was in San Antonio for the women's FF? Doesn't pass the sniff test.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:46 pm**

Lloyd is the coach in waiting at Gonzaga. They were just in the Natty and he’s turned down offers before.

Just sayin.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:46 pm**

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:42 pm
ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?
I imagine the idea of going from assistant coach at Gonzaga to head coach at a major P5 program is like dangling shiny keys in front of a small child.

In my opinion, that doesn’t speak highly of the integrity of anyone involved, except Miller, who is still out there repping the university, cheering on Adria, signing recruits, etc.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:46 pm**

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:44 pm All this negotiating with Lloyd was going on while he was in Indy coaching at the FF and Robbins was in San Antonio for the women's FF? Doesn't pass the sniff test.

Didn't even think of that. Something is a little fishy here

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:47 pm**

ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?

I regret I have but one thumbs up to give. This is 100% truth.

Just to add, if BobBob thinks a 10 seed in a year after you lost all 5 starters isn't good enough, what sane coach would sign up for that?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:47 pm**

ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?

Because Arizona is still a big name in college basketball, as well as an attractive destination with a P5 salary.

What that sane individual may not be aware of is that he will not be coming into the role with any friends. The boosters and fans are on the verge of revolt right when the IARP is about to start its work. He may be looking at a six year rebuild instead of the easy transition he’s likely been promised.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:48 pm**

ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:46 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:42 pm
ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?
I imagine the idea of going from assistant coach at Gonzaga to head coach at a major P5 program is like dangling shiny keys in front of a small child.
In my opinion, that doesn’t speak highly of the integrity of anyone involved, except Miller, who is still out there repping the university, cheering on Adria, signing recruits, etc.

I hate autocorrect. *Adia

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:51 pm**

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:47 pm
ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm I gotta say, it does make me feel all warm and fuzzy about Lloyd if there’s any truth to any of this and he’s in any kind of discussion with Robbins WHILE WE STILL HAVE A HEAD COACH. Miller’s left hanging in the wind, it’s obvious the administration is handling this extremely poorly, on the heels of handling the football hire extremely poorly, so why would Lloyd or any sane individual be participating in this farce?
Because Arizona is still a big name in college basketball, as well as an attractive destination with a P5 salary.

What that sane individual may not be aware of is that he will not be coming into the role with any friends. The boosters and fans are on the verge of revolt right when the IARP is about to start its work. He may be looking at a six year rebuild instead of the easy transition he’s likely been promised.

That sane individual might want to look at how the President and useless AD have been mocked by the media for the last month and wonder if he really wants to work for these idiots.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:52 pm**

I think I know what's really going to happen. I think Rob Robbins will be our next head coach. He's a really successful school president and a true basketball purest with a great understanding of the game. Selfless coach who is up and coming. In Rob Robbins we trust

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:34 pm**

ekat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:41 pm
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm
UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:34 pm
84Cat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 pm So Miller is getting fired?
Strong possibility tomorrow. Lloyd isn't a totally sure thing either.
This is so depressing. I'm seriously out if this is true.
I think what makes this especially sad -- for me at least -- is seeing how some of my favorite posters here are taking this, even just anticipating it. If people actually stop following the team over this, it feels like part of AZ hoops is dying.
I know you’re not addressing this to me because I never post, even though I’ve been following all you guys since CatTracks.

For me it’s not about not supporting the team. I can’t support a president of the university I love a) paying an AD $750,000 to do nothing b) hiring Sumlin despite his skeletons and even though I thought Navy guy was the wrong hire, Robbins screwed him over in the process, c) when it was painfully, brutally obvious that Sumlin had to go, he let Heeke give that infamous press conference, and screwed over Navy guy again and Brennan to hire a never-has-been-a-head-coach, hasn’t held any job longer than 2 years, Jedd Fisch. Yes, Fisch hired some of my favorite Cats, and is good with Twitter. But can he coach?

So that brings us to d) stood behind Miller when Book was arrested. Stood behind him after the ESPN hit piece. Held the NOA for months with no hint of firing Miller (and probably held on to that NOA instead of releasing it because he personally is one of the aggravating factors in one of the Level One violations), waited a month after the season ended, leaving Miller, Murphy, Terry, the rest of the staff, and most importantly the kids on the team hanging, all while we have been picked 21 or higher in all the early polls so he could blow it up now because he’s high off his hire of Fisch.

It’s sickening.

DIE ROBBINSFUCK! DIE! DIE! FUCKING DIE!

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:39 pm**

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:50 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:45 pm This is a dark time for Arizona basketball but I'll never stop watching and cheering on my Cats.
I'd like to feel like that, but at a certain point they stop being my Cats and they become BobBob's Cats.

If this was a deserved thing where you earned your way in or out, fine. When it's the whims of the president that matter more than anything, I'm not ok with that.

For any institution, I can follow for a while, but there becomes a point where it's sick beyond repair. Back to back crony hires in football and basketball is my tipping point.

I bond with the players, the coaches, the program from the court floor up. I can maintain devotion to a worthy team even if the university president is Hannibal Lecter; it might even give me more motivation. But this is a hell of a way to actuate that.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:41 pm**

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:52 pm I think I know what's really going to happen. I think Rob Robbins will be our next head coach. He's a really successful school president and a true basketball purest with a great understanding of the game. Selfless coach who is up and coming. In Rob Robbins we trust

Does he run packline or The Claw?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:44 pm**

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:41 pm
BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:52 pm I think I know what's really going to happen. I think Rob Robbins will be our next head coach. He's a really successful school president and a true basketball purest with a great understanding of the game. Selfless coach who is up and coming. In Rob Robbins we trust
Does he run packline or The Claw?

Neither. He runs his own system that nobody else runs. He's really someone who does his own thing. Doesn't really take advice or follow what other coaches do. He's a real interesting guy. Never seen anyone like him

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:56 pm**

Is something about to happen or is Scheer just being Scheer?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:59 pm**

Butters ends up trying to turn the city dump into a new city.
That’s quite an analogy to what a new coach would walk into.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:01 pm**

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:39 pm
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:50 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:45 pm This is a dark time for Arizona basketball but I'll never stop watching and cheering on my Cats.
I'd like to feel like that, but at a certain point they stop being my Cats and they become BobBob's Cats.

If this was a deserved thing where you earned your way in or out, fine. When it's the whims of the president that matter more than anything, I'm not ok with that.

For any institution, I can follow for a while, but there becomes a point where it's sick beyond repair. Back to back crony hires in football and basketball is my tipping point.
I bond with the players, the coaches, the program from the court floor up. I can maintain devotion to a worthy team even if the university president is Hannibal Lecter; it might even give me more motivation. But this is a hell of a way to actuate that.

I feel like I can bond with other players and coaches. I'm not limited to Arizona, and I can find a program that won't jerk me around for the president's giggles.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:02 pm**

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:56 pm
Is something about to happen or is Scheer just being Scheer?

Just Sheer being Sheer...these rumors by "Zagaholic" are not exactly crystal ball solid...

This is the same guy who predicted the Zags would beat Baylor 88-74...

He also predicted they would beat UCLA by 25 (89-64)...

His track record in the last 2 weeks is terrible. Not sure why anyone would consider him an authority on anything...seems like a polite version of Ace.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:15 pm**

Well game scores are a bit different than coaching moves but...... I have no idea of his credibility.
But that coach site also had something about the situation.
Of course they could just be using each other as sources.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:19 pm**

Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:15 pm Well game scores are a bit different than coaching moves but...... I have no idea of his credibility.
But that coach site also had something about the situation.
Of course they could just be using each other as sources.

That same coach site has predicted Miller’s termination for 3 plus years.

You throw enough shit at a wall that some is bound to stick.

(Also I sent you this as a private message because I’m barely ever here and can’t figure out what happened to the platform here)

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:27 pm**

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:01 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:39 pm
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:50 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:45 pm This is a dark time for Arizona basketball but I'll never stop watching and cheering on my Cats.
I'd like to feel like that, but at a certain point they stop being my Cats and they become BobBob's Cats.

If this was a deserved thing where you earned your way in or out, fine. When it's the whims of the president that matter more than anything, I'm not ok with that.

For any institution, I can follow for a while, but there becomes a point where it's sick beyond repair. Back to back crony hires in football and basketball is my tipping point.
I bond with the players, the coaches, the program from the court floor up. I can maintain devotion to a worthy team even if the university president is Hannibal Lecter; it might even give me more motivation. But this is a hell of a way to actuate that.
I feel like I can bond with other players and coaches. I'm not limited to Arizona, and I can find a program that won't jerk me around for the president's giggles.

As well you should. But it's not really the program that's doing the jerking, it's the president.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:39 pm**

Scheer just said he no longer expects Miller to be the coach next season.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:41 pm**

Dosia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:39 pm Scheer just said he no longer expects Miller to be the coach next season.

Where? Not finding it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 pm**

All I know is that Robbins is cited in the NCAA's NOA as having committed a violation. Miller? Miller committed no violation. Book committed the felony. Phelps committed a violation. Robbins committed a violation. Miller is blamed for not policing Richardson. Why isn't the BOR hounding Robbins for HIS INVOLVEMENT in the NCAA infractions?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:45 pm**

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:19 pm
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:15 pm Well game scores are a bit different than coaching moves but...... I have no idea of his credibility.
But that coach site also had something about the situation.
Of course they could just be using each other as sources.
That same coach site has predicted Miller’s termination for 3 plus years.

You throw enough shit at a wall that some is bound to stick.

(Also I sent you this as a private message because I’m barely ever here and can’t figure out what happened to the platform here)

Haha.

It’s good to know they do this a lot.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:47 pm**

zonagrad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 pm All I know is that Robbins is cited in the NCAA's NOA as having committed a violation. Miller? Miller committed no violation. Book committed the felony. Phelps committed a violation. Robbins committed a violation. Miller is blamed for not policing Richardson. Why isn't the BOR hounding Robbins for HIS INVOLVEMENT in the NCAA infractions?

My friend and I were pondering that very thing earlier today.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:48 pm**

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:41 pm
Dosia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:39 pm Scheer just said he no longer expects Miller to be the coach next season.
Where? Not finding it.

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Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:57 pm**

Yup. Just read through everything too. Scheer seems pretty confident he's gone

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:58 pm**

Dosia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:39 pm Scheer just said he no longer expects Miller to be the coach next season.

So that's what that earlier tweet meant. Sigh.

Well at least we'll be prepared if we wake up to shit news tomorrow.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:58 pm**

Dosia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:48 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:41 pm
Dosia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:39 pm Scheer just said he no longer expects Miller to be the coach next season.
Where? Not finding it.
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Nah, I’m good. I don’t need to do some trial subscription to read a Scheer discussion board post that substantiates what you just shared. I thought you meant he tweeted it.

I’ll wait till something breaks publicly. Think it’s coming pretty quickly.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:14 pm**

This is such bullshit. Some fucking heart surgeon with no ties to OUR university is fucking with our beloved program with decades of history. It's time for some ex-players to storm his office and make a public stand about this shit show. They have nothing to lose and can easily get the UA community behind them with some very vocal public support.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:16 pm**

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:57 pm Yup. Just read through everything too. Scheer seems pretty confident he's gone

Well, nice knowing y'all. Seriously, I'm done.

Not even like I care enough to be mad if the next hire is some assistant. Just done.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:18 pm**

I just don't understand dumping Miller for an unknown. Miller isn't perfect but he's a known quantity that obviously does pretty well. If a new hire goes bad this could permanently fuck our program into irrelevance and has-been status.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm**

Disgusting

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:35 pm**

This just makes me so sick. You don’t treat a long time employee this way. And, it doesn’t just affect Sean Miller. There’s a whole bunch of assistant coaches (and families) and other staff, not to mention a bunch of 18-21 year old kids whose lives are being jerked around to stroke Robbins’ ego. Some of those kids came from the other side of the world during a damn pandemic where they had to jump through a million hoops to get here to play for this coach. They’re staring at top 15 rankings for next year. And this is how my school treats them.

If he’d been fired the day after the season ended it would have made more sense.

I’m running out of words for how sick this makes me.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:40 pm**

Yea there's almost 0 upside to any of this process. Robbins will become a top 3 hated enemy of Arizona sports in my mind if this happens.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm**

I’m sorry, guys. Truly.

AZ hoops can’t seem to catch a break right now. But...

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:58 pm**

Ya know...Robbins and Heeke don't actually HAVE to do anything this week...or next week either...there is no looming deadline here...there is no sword of damocles hanging over them other than what the independent counsel comes out with and nothing they do this week or next week will have ANY affect on that at all.

It's not like hiring or firing Miller will change the outcome of the investigation and whatever decision is handed down CANNOT be appealed so my money is on them not doing anything at all right now.

Miller is probably fine with it as well because he's still doing his thing.

Sheer is not god.

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