Re: Sean Miller
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:32 pm
For the love of all that is Holy, I was eating dinner just now when I saw that GIF. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your hair.
For the love of all that is Holy, I was eating dinner just now when I saw that GIF. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your hair.
UofA has a football team?BibbysTowelDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:18 pm If they hire Lloyd, I'll be adding men's basketball to football.
I told you not to.BibbysTowelDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:38 pm I read the first page, I want to cry now... it actually makes me want to re read the whole thread.
However, a team was brought up and I have to think that team may have hit the jackpot today. Syracuse.... flipping hate Syracuse!!!
What "Ayton thing?" It is amazing how these idiots continue to regurgitate that unsubstantiated rhetoric incorrectly cited by the ESPN hit-piece. There is no "Ayton thing." Book's bribe, the Rawle eligibility issue, Miller's lack of institutional control, etc. are the issues facing AZ -- and AZ already self-sanctioned for a season, so it isn't like a death penalty is headed the program's way. Yes, Arizona will likely get hit with additional sanctions of some sort, but it isn't as if Arizona is dealing with significantly more than Louisville, Kansas, LSU, etc., yet the national sports media narrative acts as if Arizona is dealing with issues at another level. And that certainly played a part in destroying Miller's reputation.Frybry02 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:55 pm The timing of all this is what bothers me the most. It makes no sense. The program just started to look like it was going to be back on track. Now, I fear, we may see even darker years upcoming.
I understand both sides of keeping/firing Miller argument. His actions, or lack of action, lead to the FBI knocking at the university's door. At the same time, I still feel the Schlabach article did more harm to the program than the FBI investigation. Hell, Arizona is still fighting the false narrative. Here is a tweet from today from an Arizona Alum.
Yep. That's exactly what happened. Miller was hamstrung by Robbins & Heeke since 2018. They probably expected Miller to resign -- not dig in and try to resurrect himself and the program. And that's exactly what Miller did. He had Arizona as a tourney team a year ago based on three great freshmen and nothing else. And another solid tournament team this year was just too much for Robbins to handle so he self-sanctioned all the while hiding the NOA. He's a spineless, fucking coward.
You're totally right. At this point if Miller did go to ASU I'd cheer for the scumDevils, I really would.zonagrad wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:13 pmYep. That's exactly what happened. Miller was hamstrung by Robbins & Heeke since 2018. They probably expected Miller to resign -- not dig in and try to resurrect himself and the program. And that's exactly what Miller did. He had Arizona as a tourney team a year ago based on three great freshmen and nothing else. And another solid tournament team this year was just too much for Robbins to handle so he self-sanctioned all the while hiding the NOA. He's a spineless, fucking coward.
Does anyone think Tucson's crackerjack media will tackle that angle?
You can’t just fire and hire a guy in the world of collegiate Athletics. At least not in one day. If it’s not announced by Monday feel free to panic.
In terms of sports, I thought I couldn’t be more down in the mouth thIs week after the women lost a natty by one after missing numerous open shots (including freethrows) , but Ricky Bobby and his puppet said, hold my beer. I just wish I could get out of my pledge to give money to the UofA AD. Thankfully, I’m only in for one more year, Then, my only commitment to this shittastic moron-fest will be season tickets to see WBB and the occasional baseball and softball game once we can have a beer again. I also wish I had vastly more priority points. I’ve made it no secret, I despise Robbins on a personal level. Heeke is just a twit.
Pissed. There's such a double-standard in the world. Niya Butts had five straight losing seasons coaching the women and never finished higher than 11th in the Pac. Who tolerates that garbage?Siempre Verde wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:28 pmIn terms of sports, I thought I couldn’t be more down in the mouth thIs week after the women lost a natty by one after missing numerous open shots (including freethrows) , but Ricky Bobby and his puppet said, hold my beer. I just wish I could get out of my pledge to give money to the UofA AD. Thankfully, I’m only in for one more year, Then, my only commitment to this shittastic moron-fest will be season tickets to see WBB and the occasional baseball and softball game once we can have a beer again. I also wish I had vastly more priority points. I’ve made it no secret, I despise Robbins on a personal level. Heeke is just a twit.
I don't believe that. Bill Self just got a lifetime extension. Bruce Pearl, notorious for his NCAA violations, keeps getting hired. Houston was more than happy to take Sampson.ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:34 pm If Miller could’ve gotten any of those jobs he would’ve taken them. He’s unhireable by any college at the moment.
I completely disagree. Hell Pitino is the dirtiest son-of-a-bitch to come down the pike and is years away from his greatest successes and he still found a taker.ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:34 pm If Miller could’ve gotten any of those jobs he would’ve taken them. He’s unhireable by any college at the moment.
I think the difference is the final fours and natty on the resume.ByJoveByJingle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:20 pmI completely disagree. Hell Pitino is the dirtiest son-of-a-bitch to come down the pike and is years away from his greatest successes and he still found a taker.ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:34 pm If Miller could’ve gotten any of those jobs he would’ve taken them. He’s unhireable by any college at the moment.
And the more prominent resume (even if you include the 2 vacated final fours) is offset by the higher level of mendacity, general stupidity and moral depravity.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:28 pmI think the difference is the final fours and natty on the resume.ByJoveByJingle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:20 pmI completely disagree. Hell Pitino is the dirtiest son-of-a-bitch to come down the pike and is years away from his greatest successes and he still found a taker.ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:34 pm If Miller could’ve gotten any of those jobs he would’ve taken them. He’s unhireable by any college at the moment.
Honestly I'm sure losing a coach once to UNC had something to do with it. They got scared and pulled the trigger. Good for Kansas. Self has the same amount of ships as Scott Drew.
He was fired because he was not their hire in the first place. That is the bottom line. Knob slobbin' Robbins and his lap dog Heeke didn't want their time at Arizona to be tarnished by someone who was the center of a major scandal. They figured he would quit on his own as pressure mounted. They lied their collective asses off and threw false support behind him for 3+ years. You simply do not do that to people. If you have a problem with them or think that they do not fit into your vision of things any longer, you man up and shit can them right then and there. There shouldn't have been an ounce of hesitation by them when they first thought about it. The UofA's actions towards this situation were unethical and reprehensible. How can you defend someone lying to you for years?Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:36 pm Look. I’m a Miller fan, but he knew he was fucked when the dude he shoulda fired got caught by the FBI. He was able to continue coaching that team and flamed out early in the NCAA.
He survived long enough to get a top class and underperformed and then covid hit—which probably saved his job as who is gonna fire someone in a pandemic?
Robbins gets a ton of shit for how this was handled, but sean knew his days were numbered unless he won games and went far in the tourney.
I believe it’s why he was fired now. The team was actually gonna return with a chance to be good next year. Robbins knows who he wanted, and that coach wasn’t reachable until he lost in the natty.
Who said I’m defending Robbins?Basketcats wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:12 amHe was fired because he was not their hire in the first place. That is the bottom line. Knob slobbin' Robbins and his lap dog Heeke didn't want their time at Arizona to be tarnished by someone who was the center of a major scandal. They figured he would quit on his own as pressure mounted. They lied their collective asses off and threw false support behind him for 3+ years. You simply do not do that to people. If you have a problem with them or think that they do not fit into your vision of things any longer, you man up and shit can them right then and there. There shouldn't have been an ounce of hesitation by them when they first thought about it. The UofA's actions towards this situation were unethical and reprehensible. How can you defend someone lying to you for years?Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:36 pm Look. I’m a Miller fan, but he knew he was fucked when the dude he shoulda fired got caught by the FBI. He was able to continue coaching that team and flamed out early in the NCAA.
He survived long enough to get a top class and underperformed and then covid hit—which probably saved his job as who is gonna fire someone in a pandemic?
Robbins gets a ton of shit for how this was handled, but sean knew his days were numbered unless he won games and went far in the tourney.
I believe it’s why he was fired now. The team was actually gonna return with a chance to be good next year. Robbins knows who he wanted, and that coach wasn’t reachable until he lost in the natty.
Maybe I am misreading the bolded text. If so, I apologize. I am hyper-sensitive about all this stuff right now.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:14 amWho said I’m defending Robbins?Basketcats wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:12 amHe was fired because he was not their hire in the first place. That is the bottom line. Knob slobbin' Robbins and his lap dog Heeke didn't want their time at Arizona to be tarnished by someone who was the center of a major scandal. They figured he would quit on his own as pressure mounted. They lied their collective asses off and threw false support behind him for 3+ years. You simply do not do that to people. If you have a problem with them or think that they do not fit into your vision of things any longer, you man up and shit can them right then and there. There shouldn't have been an ounce of hesitation by them when they first thought about it. The UofA's actions towards this situation were unethical and reprehensible. How can you defend someone lying to you for years?Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:36 pm Look. I’m a Miller fan, but he knew he was fucked when the dude he shoulda fired got caught by the FBI. He was able to continue coaching that team and flamed out early in the NCAA.
He survived long enough to get a top class and underperformed and then covid hit—which probably saved his job as who is gonna fire someone in a pandemic?
Robbins gets a ton of shit for how this was handled, but sean knew his days were numbered unless he won games and went far in the tourney.
I believe it’s why he was fired now. The team was actually gonna return with a chance to be good next year. Robbins knows who he wanted, and that coach wasn’t reachable until he lost in the natty.
No worries. UnderstandableBasketcats wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:59 amMaybe I am misreading the bolded text. If so, I apologize. I am hyper-sensitive about all this stuff right now.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:14 amWho said I’m defending Robbins?Basketcats wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:12 amHe was fired because he was not their hire in the first place. That is the bottom line. Knob slobbin' Robbins and his lap dog Heeke didn't want their time at Arizona to be tarnished by someone who was the center of a major scandal. They figured he would quit on his own as pressure mounted. They lied their collective asses off and threw false support behind him for 3+ years. You simply do not do that to people. If you have a problem with them or think that they do not fit into your vision of things any longer, you man up and shit can them right then and there. There shouldn't have been an ounce of hesitation by them when they first thought about it. The UofA's actions towards this situation were unethical and reprehensible. How can you defend someone lying to you for years?Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:36 pm Look. I’m a Miller fan, but he knew he was fucked when the dude he shoulda fired got caught by the FBI. He was able to continue coaching that team and flamed out early in the NCAA.
He survived long enough to get a top class and underperformed and then covid hit—which probably saved his job as who is gonna fire someone in a pandemic?
Robbins gets a ton of shit for how this was handled, but sean knew his days were numbered unless he won games and went far in the tourney.
I believe it’s why he was fired now. The team was actually gonna return with a chance to be good next year. Robbins knows who he wanted, and that coach wasn’t reachable until he lost in the natty.
And Kansas could likely snag Scott Drew if the job opened up. Self isn’t so good that he needs to be placated at every turn. His unethical behavior is probably going to get the program nailed. Kansas forgot it is Kansas; a lot of high level coaches will want that gig.cats101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:52 pmHonestly I'm sure losing a coach once to UNC had something to do with it. They got scared and pulled the trigger. Good for Kansas. Self has the same amount of ships as Scott Drew.
As an assistant coach??? Maybe.BibbysTowelDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:41 pm Miller will be back in the NCAA Tournament by 2024.
People forget that Pitino was already on probation with the NCAA and had vacated wins (including2 Final Fours and a natty) due to providing hookers for recruits, not to mention his brief Scenes From an Italian Restaurant scandal BEFORE he personally was caught on tape and text discussing payments for Brian Bowen, who was ultimately deemed ineligible. Little bit more to rehab there in my personal opinion.dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:48 amAs an assistant coach??? Maybe.BibbysTowelDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:41 pm Miller will be back in the NCAA Tournament by 2024.
Choo and Olsondogg are right, Miller is NOT going to be a head coach at a P5 school anytime soon. People on this board also forget that Pitino first had to leave the country and do a coaching gig in Greece before he was able to land his present position at a relatively small school..Iona.
Miller will have to follow a similar path.........NBA assistant, Euro club coach.....Let the NCAA mess blow over and then (perhaps) he can get a coaching gig at a smaller school in the US.
But he is Italian.ekat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:56 amPeople forget that Pitino was already on probation with the NCAA and had vacated wins (including2 Final Fours and a natty) due to providing hookers for recruits, not to mention his brief Scenes From an Italian Restaurant scandal BEFORE he personally was caught on tape and text discussing payments for Brian Bowen, who was ultimately deemed ineligible. Little bit more to rehab there in my personal opinion.dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:48 amAs an assistant coach??? Maybe.BibbysTowelDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:41 pm Miller will be back in the NCAA Tournament by 2024.
Choo and Olsondogg are right, Miller is NOT going to be a head coach at a P5 school anytime soon. People on this board also forget that Pitino first had to leave the country and do a coaching gig in Greece before he was able to land his present position at a relatively small school..Iona.
Miller will have to follow a similar path.........NBA assistant, Euro club coach.....Let the NCAA mess blow over and then (perhaps) he can get a coaching gig at a smaller school in the US.
Pitino isn’t facing a NCAA suspension, Sean is.ByJoveByJingle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:20 pmI completely disagree. Hell Pitino is the dirtiest son-of-a-bitch to come down the pike and is years away from his greatest successes and he still found a taker.ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:34 pm If Miller could’ve gotten any of those jobs he would’ve taken them. He’s unhireable by any college at the moment.