Official Bracketology Thread

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:21 am

pc in NM wrote:I think the Cats have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get the #2 seed in the West

A #2 seed is locked up

We lock up #2 in west if we get to the finals.

We win and we probably get #1 Seed in West.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:22 am

KaibabKat wrote:We left our #1 NCAA seed somewhere in Las Vegas last December. Now we are back there looking for it.

win out and it will firmly be in the back right pocket again on the way to McCarran International

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:23 am

I don't give a fuck btw. Freight train is a comin...

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:24 am

West is locked up. RPI, SOS, and HtoH favour AZ over Zaga. Win out...and leave Vegas as one of the few winners to leave town.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:33 am

CalStateTempe wrote:Jay Williams said during the to zagS game last night that with a zags win they are #2 in the west and arizona is a 2 elsewhere. Stated the no offense meme and 3 bad losses as reasons.

Rubbish.

Zags score a bucket more per game. Did he have another crash?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:07 am

gumby wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Jay Williams said during the to zagS game last night that with a zags win they are #2 in the west and arizona is a 2 elsewhere. Stated the no offense meme and 3 bad losses as reasons.

Rubbish.
Zags score a bucket more per game. Did he have another crash?

Lol, gumby. I initially had a similar comment that I removed, since it wouldn't be professional of me to state.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:50 pm

Send those to me! I'll post 'em.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:47 am

Alieberman wrote:
pc in NM wrote:I think the Cats have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get the #2 seed in the West
A #2 seed is locked up

We lock up #2 in west if we get to the finals.

We win and we probably get #1 Seed in West.

If we win, would be a strong argument for #1

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:50 am

ASUHATER! wrote:What basis is there for gonzaga to get the 2 ahead of us? They are 1 behind us in the rpi, have a much weaker sos, have lost more recently and....we beat them.

We have to win the Pac 12 tournament or we will be shipped out.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:05 am

Catintheheat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:What basis is there for gonzaga to get the 2 ahead of us? They are 1 behind us in the rpi, have a much weaker sos, have lost more recently and....we beat them.
We have to win the Pac 12 tournament or we will be shipped out.

Only losing to Cal today would create that possibility. But hopefully this wont be in the discussion. HTH, SOS, and RPI all favour the Cats. Plus, while not great, if BYU doesnt get in, then the WCC was a 1 bid conference while the Pac is 3.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:06 am

Catintheheat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:What basis is there for gonzaga to get the 2 ahead of us? They are 1 behind us in the rpi, have a much weaker sos, have lost more recently and....we beat them.
We have to win the Pac 12 tournament or we will be shipped out.

I just don't see it. Would make no sense

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:17 am

If we lose today, we get shipped out. That would be three losses to teams hovering around #100 in the RPI and one that's #130. That's not great and would be hard to justify geographical preference over a team with only two losses, both to tourney teams.

But we're not losing today.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:59 am

Chicat wrote: But we're not losing today.

Or tomorrow. Or Saturday.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:07 am

I think the only way we get shipped out is if we lose before the final.

ChattyPaddy · Post by **ChattyPaddy** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:38 pm

With the UVA loss they are predicted to drop to the last 1 seed out west. I'd rather have Villanova.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:42 pm

ChattyPaddy wrote:With the UVA loss they are predicted to drop to the last 1 seed out west. I'd rather have Villanova.

That's total horseshit if we win the Pac tourney. We should have that spot.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:06 pm

Cats need to play lights out in the second half.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:29 pm

splitsecond wrote:
ChattyPaddy wrote:With the UVA loss they are predicted to drop to the last 1 seed out west. I'd rather have Villanova.
That's total horseshit if we win the Pac tourney. We should have that spot.

Yeah would be carp if we are the 2 to Virginia if we have the same record but we won our tournament

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:48 pm

Well I think we are a default 1 seed with a win tomorrow!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:50 pm

Real good night for us.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:51 pm

Arizona 1 and Duke 2 in the West would be sweet.

ChattyPaddy · Post by **ChattyPaddy** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:51 pm

If UA and Wisconsin win out no way they should be denied 1 seeds, especially with both ACC teams not even making the conference finals.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:52 pm

ChattyPaddy wrote:If UA and Wisconsin win out no way they should be denied 1 seeds, especially with both ACC teams not even making the conference finals.

Heck, if both lose, Gonzaga's a 1-seed

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:57 pm

Selection Sunday is going to be very interesting for #1s and 2s!

Kentucky obviously.... But then who?

I think Duke hangs on

If AZ, Villinova and Wisky all win.... I'd say Wisky is odd man out
Zaga needs 2 of 3 above to lose
I think Virginia slips to a 2

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:58 pm

As of now the 1s have to be Kentucky, Villanova, Wisconsin and Arizona right?

But in reality the east coast media probably still has us as a 2 and duke or uva still as a 1.

ASUCatFan · Post by **ASUCatFan** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:01 pm

Wisconsin is playing in a better conference than Arizona and has the most dominant player in CBB. That should count for something, right?

ChattyPaddy · Post by **ChattyPaddy** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:01 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:As of now the 1s have to be Kentucky, Villanova, Wisconsin and Arizona right?

But in reality the east coast media probably still has us as a 2 and duke or uva still as a 1.

Jay Bilas sill has both UVA and Duke as 1's

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:02 pm

Duke with 4 losses and one real bad one at home to Miami is definitely a candidate for a two seed.

I also think that with both Duke and UVA losing Kansas could find themselves a three seed if they lose tomorrow.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:22 pm

We win the tourny and we still get a 2 it's a damn joke.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:23 pm

The committee's job got tougher today.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:47 pm

Wisconsin #1 in the west.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... _jerrypalm

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:53 pm

Irish27 wrote:Wisconsin #1 in the west.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... _jerrypalm

he can suck a big fat wet one

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:54 pm

At this rate Utah will be a 5 seed.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:01 pm

Go Purdue.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:03 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:At this rate Utah will be a 5 seed.

Utah beats the shit out of inferior teams but is a completely different team when you get a tough squad in front of them. Their fall isn't helping our quest for a one seed. Oh well keep winning

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:13 pm

Irish27 wrote:Wisconsin #1 in the west.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... _jerrypalm

Virginia still being a 1 seed is a complete joke. No way in hell that happens.

And even though it's Oregon and not Utah, it's ridiculous for us to still be a 2 seed if we win tomorrow.

Katzenfreund · Post by **Katzenfreund** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:14 pm

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:37 pm

is villanova a lock for a 1-seed if they beat xavier tmrw?

bracket trivia buffs, has the tournament ever had three "wildcats" as the top seeds? i'm assuming there's never been four 1-seeded wildcat teams.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:50 pm

Goddamn it, now Lunardi says we're a 2 seed out East with Villanova? What the hell? How come we're getting less and less-favorable brackets the more that we win?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:02 am

qwertyus wrote:Goddamn it, now Lunardi says we're a 2 seed out East with Villanova? What the hell? How come we're getting less and less-favorable brackets the more that we win?

Wow, what? Not enough style points for Lunardi I guess. Win tomorrow and we're not getting shipped out. Even if we lose I can't imagine it.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:09 am

"Of course, Wisconsin isn't done yet. And neither is Villanova. I'm not convinced Arizona can climb to the top line because their collection of losses is clearly the worst, and they also have the fewest quality wins. The Wildcats have been hurt by the relative lack of quality of their league."

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on- ... a?v=1&vc=1

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:36 am

None of these people speak for the selection committee.

Top two seeds tomorrow if chalk:

1 West Arizona
2 West Gonzaga

1 Midwest Wisconsin
2 Midwest Kansas

1 Southeast Kentucky
2 Southeast Duke

1 East Villanova
2 East Virginia

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:50 am

catgrad97 wrote:None of these people speak for the selection committee.

This is true. None of them even speak TO the committee. That's why their brackets don't match each other's and never match how the committee actually seeds. It's just their personal opinion.

ChattyPaddy · Post by **ChattyPaddy** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:02 am

catgrad97 wrote: 1 West Arizona
2 West Gonzaga

1 Midwest Wisconsin
2 Midwest Kansas

1 Southeast Kentucky
2 Southeast Duke

1 East Villanova
2 East Virginia

This setup makes the most sense, though I might switch Duke and KU.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:13 am

Kentucky was guaranteed the Midwest 1 months ago.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:41 am

The ACC conference tournament losses just aren't that big. We beat two non-tourney teams. UNC and ND are ranked. We are hurt by our conference and those bad losses. It seems like a big deal to win in Vegas, because we haven't won this thing since 2002. But to others, it isn't. Even Nova beat a ranked team. KU may beat three.

I wouldn't mind being paired with Virginia. They're weaker with hobbled Anderson. Not convinced Nova is a better match-up.

We say it every year. The rest of the conference hurts us. We rarely gain anything from the conference tournament, except for more Larry Scott jokes and hangovers.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:53 am

Today, Lunardi has us as a #2 seed in the West; Virginia is the #1....

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:56 am

pc in NM wrote:Today, Lunardi has us as a #2 seed in the West; Virginia is the #1....

What a joke.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:02 am

gumby wrote:The ACC conference tournament losses just aren't that big. We beat two non-tourney teams. UNC and ND are ranked. We are hurt by our conference and those bad losses. It seems like a big deal to win in Vegas, because we haven't won this thing since 2002. But to others, it isn't. Even Nova beat a ranked team. KU may beat three.

I wouldn't mind being paired with Virginia. They're weaker with hobbled Anderson. Not convinced Nova is a better match-up.

We say it every year. The rest of the conference hurts us. We rarely gain anything from the conference tournament, except for more Larry Scott jokes and hangovers.

I agree with everything here.

And since Purdue won't beat Wisconsin today, stability won't ensue. Arizona will be a 2-seed in the west against Villanova, Virginia, or Wisconsin. Arizona had its road win over Utah as a signature win that few could match. After Utah's loss at Washington and now their second loss to Oregon, that road win isn't as meaningful as it once was.

But I don't think there's a 1-seed out there that wants Arizona as a 2-seed.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:06 am

pc in NM wrote:Today, Lunardi has us as a #2 seed in the West; Virginia is the #1....

Fine by me. If we're more deserving, we'll beat them. Have they even been west this year?

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