The 2022-2023 Season Thread

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:30 pm

Only two teams have more quad 1 wins than we do.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:35 pm

I hope they are just as hungry for this Washington trip next week.

Also, I just realized we only played 7 today. Wow.

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:38 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:35 pm Also, I just realized we only played 7 today. Wow.

The last thing I wanted to see was Bal or Veersaar handling the ball against that D. We turned it over enough as it was.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:42 pm

CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:38 pm
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:35 pm Also, I just realized we only played 7 today. Wow.
The last thing I wanted to see was Bal or Veersaar handling the ball against that D. We turned it over enough as it was.

But the new metric means: the more TOs the better!

Fuck me! I'm too old for this new math.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:48 pm

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:31 pm KK still has maturity issues. If we had a mature guard, even with our athleticism deficits, we could do a lot of damage.

Just bad decision making in general. He leads the PAC in assists, at least until UCLA, but he has been averaging 3 TO a game the last stretch.

He does make 3s at the best time, which is probably the best thing I can say about him. But imagine Boswell will start next season, and Kriisa will move to 2.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:37 pm

So next year our starting lineup is Ballo, Tubelis, Pelle, Kerr, and Boz?

Ps, didn't see the whole game, but Pelle has been more aggressive and I like it.

Heard something on the radio or a podcast they were talking about him and a swedish journalist said that he was "too damn swedish"

Like he's too nice, wants to make sure everyone gets their run. Glad he's becoming more American and selfish.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:09 pm

We're still doing a lot of damage despite our deficits. I'm not giving up on this team. Everybody has to play smarter and give maximum effort. That's our key to success this season.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:24 pm

The tournament feels very up in the air this year in that just about anyone can make a run. Why not us?

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:18 pm

The teams I don't want to face are Houston, TCU or Xavier. Not afraid of Purdue or Kansas.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:46 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:18 pm The teams I don't want to face are Houston, TCU or Xavier. Not afraid of Purdue or Kansas.

If we are playing any of those teams in the tourney, good chance it’s an Elite Eight or Final Four matchup.

I’m good with facing them…. Bring them on…

Even Houston.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:45 pm

Bring on all of those teams. I think Houston is the worst matchup for us in the entire field. The last 2 games our defense has really been impressive.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:08 am

Up to #6 this week.

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-colleg ... tball-poll

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:36 pm

Not that anyone cares but the coaches poll dropped us 2 spots

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:39 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:36 pm Not that anyone cares but the coaches poll dropped us 2 spots

The coach's' poll moved us UP 3 spots - 11 -> 8

The AP poll moved us UP 5 spots - 11 -> 6

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:42 pm

pc in NM wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:39 pm
84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:36 pm Not that anyone cares but the coaches poll dropped us 2 spots
The coach's' poll moved us UP 3 spots - 11 -> 8

The AP poll moved us UP 5 spots - 11 -> 6

Hmm, not this one: https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... s/coaches/
I guess I need a new place to look at rankings

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:55 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:42 pm
pc in NM wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:39 pm
84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:36 pm Not that anyone cares but the coaches poll dropped us 2 spots
The coach's' poll moved us UP 3 spots - 11 -> 8

The AP poll moved us UP 5 spots - 11 -> 6
Hmm, not this one: https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... s/coaches/
I guess I need a new place to look at rankings

I'm content with my sources...

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... asontype/2

https://sports.yahoo.com/coaches-poll-t ... 03911.html

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... ches-poll/

College basketball rankings: Purdue takes No. 1, Tennessee, Kansas State move into top five in Coaches Poll

The Coaches Poll falls in line with the AP Top 25 rankings by putting the Boilermakers at the top

Coaches Poll

Purdue
Alabama
Houston
Tennessee
Kansas State
Virginia
UCLA
Arizona
Kansas
Texas
TCU
Xavier
Iowa State
Gonzaga
Marquette
Auburn
Baylor
Charleston
Miami
UConn
Providence
Saint Mary's
Clemson
FAU
Duke

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:15 am

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:33 pm

SabinoDrifter · Post by **SabinoDrifter** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:00 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:33 pm

KenPom says the Cats win by 2.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:23 pm

AriLiebs says Cats by 10

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:44 pm

Vegas doesn't try to predict the actual score, they predict voting patterns so the bets are 50/50 each team. Until the sharps come in.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:46 pm

Absolutely two must win games if we want to win the conference and have dreams of a 1 seed

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:35 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:46 pm Absolutely [strike]two[/strike] eleven must win games if we want to win the conference and have dreams of a 1 seed

FIFY

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:18 pm

Is it possible to become a great defensive team late in life?

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:58 pm

I'm loving the defensive improvement. I want to see fewer turnovers now.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:43 am

I'm also loving seeing Pelle strong to the hoop more.

I might be wrong, seems like more, maybe I just want to see more of it so I'm looking harder, but that was a strong dunk down along the baseline last night. Like to see that.

Boswell looking really good, can't wait til next year, I hope we can keep him for his jr. yr also.

Love it when Kerr is hitting!!

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:48 am

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:43 am I'm also loving seeing Pelle strong to the hoop more.

I might be wrong, seems like more, maybe I just want to see more of it so I'm looking harder, but that was a strong dunk down along the baseline last night. Like to see that.

Boswell looking really good, can't wait til next year, I hope we can keep him for his jr. yr also.

Love it when Kerr is hitting!!

I don't see Boswell leaving early, he is your typical college guard who isn't big enough for the NBA.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:24 am

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:43 am I'm also loving seeing Pelle strong to the hoop more.

I might be wrong, seems like more, maybe I just want to see more of it so I'm looking harder, but that was a strong dunk down along the baseline last night. Like to see that.

I think those are really critical when opponents are shutting down our transition game and extending the defense on the perimeter! Great counter to what's becoming the main defensive strategy being deployed against us....

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:32 pm

Our new biggest game of the year and toughest for a month is this Thursday night against Oregon. They will be motivated to move into a tie for second and we need this game for confidence and to prove to ourselves that we can handle good big men. I expect both teams to be motivated.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:44 pm

I'm just going to say it. That 2nd half was the best I have EVER seen Arizona play against a zone defense. I've watched since they played in Bear Down with the kiddie corp.. Anyone know of a better? It is a combination of great passing big men and the fact we could make them pay with the outside shot.
Great scheme by Tommy and the rest of the coaching staff.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:28 pm

I can't recall ever seeing an Arizona team pivot like this.

We start out as a run and gun, outscore you kind of squad. It's working like gangbusters then suddenly it's not working at all. We get embarrassed twice in a row and then voila we're a grind it out elite defensive team with some spurtability. Obviously it's a small sample size so it may not be sustainable. I hope it is bc this most recent version may go places.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:56 pm

LuteIsGod · Post by **LuteIsGod** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:26 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:43 am I'm also loving seeing Pelle strong to the hoop more.

I might be wrong, seems like more, maybe I just want to see more of it so I'm looking harder, but that was a strong dunk down along the baseline last night. Like to see that.

Boswell looking really good, can't wait til next year, I hope we can keep him for his jr. yr also.

Love it when Kerr is hitting!!

I agree. Pelle’s offense is much better when he’s using his athleticism to drive to the basket. I really believe he’d be better offensively if he works on getting easy points around the basket and then taking some outside shots.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:22 am

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:43 am

We're 19-3, Tennessee is 18-3. We beat them.

They have three wins over teams currently ranked in the top 25 of NET: 8, 9, and 38.

We have five such wins: 2, 5, 18, 20 and 23.

Why are they ranked ahead of us again?

Also, how is ucla ahead of us in NET?

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:59 am

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... qus_thread

Gotta love Wilner

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:25 am

Wilner is ranking these teams based on how he thinks they'll finish the season, not based on what's so far transpired. I don't know how else to explain ucla ahead of us in any ranking right now.

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:43 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:25 am Wilner is ranking these teams based on how he thinks they'll finish the season, not based on what's so far transpired. I don't know how else to explain ucla head of us in any ranking right now.

Or Arkansas at #17...

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:51 am

Arkansas is what got me too. Very athletic team but has a ways to go to be a good basketball team.

AzCatFan2 · Post by **AzCatFan2** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:34 pm

Polls are mostly meaningless. The only benefit is a little more exposure as your scores are included in TOP 25 scrolls.

As for NET, UCLA is ranked ahead of us because their cupcakes were a little less fattening than ours. In Q3 and Q4 games, UCLA is 7-0 and we are currently 9-0. All of UCLA's losses are Q1, and we have a Q2 loss. These minor differences are why they are ranked ahead of us. But remember, NET isn't a Bible; it's just a guide the committee uses. And our 7 Q1 wins stand out more than UCLA's 4 Q1 wins, which is why, as of today, we'd probably be seeded higher.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:11 pm

Question:

When Ballo got fouled and they called a Flagrant 1….
Did he make the shot? I thought he did.
If he made it, why wasn’t there an And 1 and the 2 shots for Flagrant? Or if he missed, 2 shots plus 2 for Flagrant?
I thought the flagrant is a separate foul i.e. Krissa’s foul at mid court.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:42 pm

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:34 pm
As for NET, UCLA is ranked ahead of us because their cupcakes were a little less fattening than ours. In Q3 and Q4 games, UCLA is 7-0 and we are currently 9-0. All of UCLA's losses are Q1, and we have a Q2 loss. These minor differences are why they are ranked ahead of us. But remember, NET isn't a Bible; it's just a guide the committee uses. And our 7 Q1 wins stand out more than UCLA's 4 Q1 wins, which is why, as of today, we'd probably be seeded higher.

I think you're right, Az.

It's going to be interesting if AZ wins the Pac reg season title but ucla wins the Pac tourney, or vice versa. If both teams have otherwise similar metrics, it's gonna be really close for who gets placed in that West region. Feel like it matters more this year being in Vegas. AZ fans would turn that city red for the weekend.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:42 am

Do you think they'd put Zona and UCLA as 1&2 in the same region? I know you can't see conference foes til the sweet 16, but how often do they make the 1&2 seed in a region from the same conf?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:47 am

They wouldn’t do that especially with the PAC having so few teams in.

I would imagine Houston is almost a lock for the 1 or 2 in the West

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:07 am

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:42 am Do you think they'd put Zona and UCLA as 1&2 in the same region? I know you can't see conference foes til the sweet 16, but how often do they make the 1&2 seed in a region from the same conf?

I could be wrong, but I don't think there's any restriction on seeding two teams from the same league as "protected" seeds (1-4) in the same region. So in theory, AZ and ucla could be seeded in the same region, maybe as the 2 and 4 or something. In the current Bracketology, they've got Kansas and Baylor in the Midwest region, and they've got Texas and Iowa St. in the East.

I can't remember a year where AZ and ucla were in the same region.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:56 am

You are wrong

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:12 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:56 amYou are wrong

So Bracketology is posting fake bracket projections?

In 2021, the 2 and 4 seeds in the South region were from the Big 10, and the 3 and 4 seeds in the Midwest were from the Big 12.

So...I'm not wrong.

AzCatFan2 · Post by **AzCatFan2** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:21 pm

The rule used to be no teams from the same conference until the Elite 8. That rule was scrapped a few years ago. Now, it's possible that teams can meet earlier. I think it's more of an unwritten rule that if there are less than 4 teams from the same conference, they go into no less than 3 separate brackets. And this year, it's highly unlikely the PAC gets more than 4, with 3 being more likely.

Bottom line is they aren't going to put us and UCLA in the same bracket this year. We could be both be sent to Sacramento, however, as first weekend sites are based on geography of the protected seed. Denver is the other first weekend site, and currently, ESPN has both of us going to Sac, with us being the #2 seed in the west. It also wouldn't surprise me if we get sent to Denver instead, and Gonzaga gets to go to Sac.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:11 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:12 pm
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:56 amYou are wrong
So Bracketology is posting fake bracket projections?

In 2021, the 2 and 4 seeds in the South region were from the Big 10, and the 3 and 4 seeds in the Midwest were from the Big 12.

So...I'm not wrong.

That is only if there are 5 or more top 16 teams from the same conference

That year Michigan #1, Illinois #1, Ohio State #2, Iowa #2, and Purdue #4 were top 16 seeds so yeah, you cant have UCLA and UA in the same region this year

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:20 pm

There were also 5 top 16 seeds from the Big 12 that year

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