Lets Talk '24

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm

Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:11 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?

Hasn’t that been asked and answered a few times?

Our chances are not great.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:31 pm

Gonzaga right?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:41 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:31 pm Gonzaga right?

Yep

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:08 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:11 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
Hasn’t that been asked and answered a few times?

Our chances are not great.

Probably. I didn't mean to retread the same territory. Just looking for an update on the guy. These recruitments can be a little crazy.

Gonzaga is tough to beat these days.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:18 pm

UDub is a possibility as well.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:40 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:18 pm UDub is a possibility as well.

Considering how terribly that program has performed recently, it's a miracle they continue to draw top tier talent.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:29 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:11 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
Hasn’t that been asked and answered a few times?

Our chances are not great.
Probably. I didn't mean to retread the same territory. Just looking for an update on the guy. These recruitments can be a little crazy.

Gonzaga is tough to beat these days.

When you see the recruiting guys writing articles and hyping up visits, you know we’ve got a good shot. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

This one has been zero smoke.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:48 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?

I have no idea where he ultimately ends up, because neither does Zoom. UW is offering the biggest payday, but with the caveat of a very unstable situation with its coaching staff. Gonzaga has always been the no brainer and I always felt that in the end that's where he'd end up, but Few may get tired of waiting here. USC & Bama are heavily involved and could easily poach him. I just don't think the role he'd want year 1 is available at Arizona, although if certain guys play out of their minds this year, it's possible. If he puts it off until Spring I think that could theoretically help Arizona's chances, but who knows. Some recruits are blatantly obvious and others are complicated. The kid's unwillingness to tell anybody no is what makes this recruitment complicated. Wish I had a better answer for you BC, but this isn't an easy recruitment to peg down. Odds at this point though are heavily against Arizona, but Tommy is still involved, so that means he has a sliver of hope for some reason. Tommy doesn't tend to waste his time as you know.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:49 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:29 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:11 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
Hasn’t that been asked and answered a few times?

Our chances are not great.
Probably. I didn't mean to retread the same territory. Just looking for an update on the guy. These recruitments can be a little crazy.

Gonzaga is tough to beat these days.
When you see the recruiting guys writing articles and hyping up visits, you know we’ve got a good shot. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

This one has been zero smoke.

Hell, most people (outside of Tucson) think he still won't even make it to Tucson for this visit.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:04 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:49 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:29 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:11 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
Hasn’t that been asked and answered a few times?

Our chances are not great.
Probably. I didn't mean to retread the same territory. Just looking for an update on the guy. These recruitments can be a little crazy.

Gonzaga is tough to beat these days.
When you see the recruiting guys writing articles and hyping up visits, you know we’ve got a good shot. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

This one has been zero smoke.
Hell, most people (outside of Tucson) think he still won't even make it to Tucson for this visit.

In which case I’m sure Tommy shifts to prioritizing other PG targets.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:25 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:48 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
I have no idea where he ultimately ends up, because neither does Zoom. UW is offering the biggest payday, but with the caveat of a very unstable situation with its coaching staff. Gonzaga has always been the no brainer and I always felt that in the end that's where he'd end up, but Few may get tired of waiting here. USC & Bama are heavily involved and could easily poach him. I just don't think the role he'd want year 1 is available at Arizona, although if certain guys play out of their minds this year, it's possible. If he puts it off until Spring I think that could theoretically help Arizona's chances, but who knows. Some recruits are blatantly obvious and others are complicated. The kid's unwillingness to tell anybody no is what makes this recruitment complicated. Wish I had a better answer for you BC, but this isn't an easy recruitment to peg down. Odds at this point though are heavily against Arizona, but Tommy is still involved, so that means he has a sliver of hope for some reason. Tommy doesn't tend to waste his time as you know.

Thanks, Choo. Much appreciated.

Any other PG targets we might wanna keep an eye on? Also, isn't Jamari Phillips a PG?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:43 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:25 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:48 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
I have no idea where he ultimately ends up, because neither does Zoom. UW is offering the biggest payday, but with the caveat of a very unstable situation with its coaching staff. Gonzaga has always been the no brainer and I always felt that in the end that's where he'd end up, but Few may get tired of waiting here. USC & Bama are heavily involved and could easily poach him. I just don't think the role he'd want year 1 is available at Arizona, although if certain guys play out of their minds this year, it's possible. If he puts it off until Spring I think that could theoretically help Arizona's chances, but who knows. Some recruits are blatantly obvious and others are complicated. The kid's unwillingness to tell anybody no is what makes this recruitment complicated. Wish I had a better answer for you BC, but this isn't an easy recruitment to peg down. Odds at this point though are heavily against Arizona, but Tommy is still involved, so that means he has a sliver of hope for some reason. Tommy doesn't tend to waste his time as you know.
Thanks, Choo. Much appreciated.

Any other PG targets we might wanna keep an eye on? Also, isn't Jamari Phillips a PG?

SG according to 247: https://247sports.com/Player/Jamari-Phillips-46117604/

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:51 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:25 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:48 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
I have no idea where he ultimately ends up, because neither does Zoom. UW is offering the biggest payday, but with the caveat of a very unstable situation with its coaching staff. Gonzaga has always been the no brainer and I always felt that in the end that's where he'd end up, but Few may get tired of waiting here. USC & Bama are heavily involved and could easily poach him. I just don't think the role he'd want year 1 is available at Arizona, although if certain guys play out of their minds this year, it's possible. If he puts it off until Spring I think that could theoretically help Arizona's chances, but who knows. Some recruits are blatantly obvious and others are complicated. The kid's unwillingness to tell anybody no is what makes this recruitment complicated. Wish I had a better answer for you BC, but this isn't an easy recruitment to peg down. Odds at this point though are heavily against Arizona, but Tommy is still involved, so that means he has a sliver of hope for some reason. Tommy doesn't tend to waste his time as you know.
Thanks, Choo. Much appreciated.

Any other PG targets we might wanna keep an eye on? Also, isn't Jamari Phillips a PG?

As far as 2024 goes, beyond Zoom, just international & transfers to fill any holes. I don't even think Arizona will need a PG anyways, Zoom is more of a luxury.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:51 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:51 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:25 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:48 am
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm Choo, what are our chances with Zoom?
I have no idea where he ultimately ends up, because neither does Zoom. UW is offering the biggest payday, but with the caveat of a very unstable situation with its coaching staff. Gonzaga has always been the no brainer and I always felt that in the end that's where he'd end up, but Few may get tired of waiting here. USC & Bama are heavily involved and could easily poach him. I just don't think the role he'd want year 1 is available at Arizona, although if certain guys play out of their minds this year, it's possible. If he puts it off until Spring I think that could theoretically help Arizona's chances, but who knows. Some recruits are blatantly obvious and others are complicated. The kid's unwillingness to tell anybody no is what makes this recruitment complicated. Wish I had a better answer for you BC, but this isn't an easy recruitment to peg down. Odds at this point though are heavily against Arizona, but Tommy is still involved, so that means he has a sliver of hope for some reason. Tommy doesn't tend to waste his time as you know.
Thanks, Choo. Much appreciated.

Any other PG targets we might wanna keep an eye on? Also, isn't Jamari Phillips a PG?
As far as 2024 goes, beyond Zoom, just international & transfers to fill any holes. I don't even think Arizona will need a PG anyways, Zoom is more of a luxury.

Feel like calling Zoom a luxury is a pretty damn good spot to be in. Nice work, Tommy.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:32 am

We could possibly return Bradley and Boswell, add in Carter and Jamari, have one of our bench bigs step up and have another solid starting 5. Add in KJ, Murauskas, and Stephen…that’s a good 8…plus any transfers.

I know Boswell is possible to go to draft…but I would also expect to lose Keshad, Ballo, Pelle, and Love.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:36 am

I wouldn't think Boswell is possible for the draft imo but I've seen stranger things...

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:37 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:32 am but I would also expect to lose Keshad, Ballo, Pelle, and Love.

These guys are all seniors. Will they be out of eligibility or can they still come back due to covid or something?

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:49 am

84Cat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:37 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:32 am but I would also expect to lose Keshad, Ballo, Pelle, and Love.
These guys are all seniors. Will they be out of eligibility or can they still come back due to covid or something?

I think everyone I listed, except Keshad, technically has an extra Covid year. I could be wrong.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:28 pm

Rumors of Zoom being on campus this coming weekend? Does that mean we go from 5% to 10% chance? (Joking of course) or is this getting serious?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:42 pm

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:28 pm Rumors of Zoom being on campus this coming weekend? Does that mean we go from 5% to 10% chance? (Joking of course) or is this getting serious?

I would think this is good news because a couple of weeks ago most thought he would announce a decision before he got to UA. I hear the problem is he is too nice and he can't say no to anyone.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:53 pm

This is his second official visit. On3 gives us the edge in his recruitment.

https://www.on3.com/db/zoom-diallo-150938/

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:33 pm

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:20 am

In regards to Zoom…

We could realistically expect to return Bradley, Boswell, & Lewis..while also bringing in Phillips.
That’s already 4 deep in the backcourt. I would imagine that’s a big deterrent. Maybe the longer this takes, the better for us…we have the luxury of waiting while other teams may become impatient. Zoom could also be waiting to see if any of those guys would leave before making his decision after the season, or near the end IF Boswell plays his way into the draft.

Of course I’m speculating and projecting…I have no sources.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:27 pm

Tommy is doing a fantastic job with roster management at the moment. I think we're set up well to weather the impact of some early departures, which feel unlikely at the moment.

And I agree that a long, drawn out Zoom recruitment is better for us since it allows more time for our 2024-25 roster situation to come into focus. If it's increasingly clear that Boswell or someone else is gone, that opens up a big-minutes guard spot.

But again, Tommy has put us in a good spot.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:15 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:08 am

Guess he likes candy and Doritos.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:13 am

Take into account that if Diallo commits, one of our guards would enter the portal.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:53 am

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:13 am Take into account that if Diallo commits, one of our guards would enter the portal.

Does Caleb Love still have eligibility after this year

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:26 am

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:13 am Take into account that if Diallo commits, one of our guards would enter the portal.

Take into account... someone always enters the portal who we do not expect to

Assuming everyone with eligibility stays with the program is no longer the way to recruit

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:52 pm

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 am

So is no news good or bad? I can’t decide.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 am So is no news good or bad? I can’t decide.

There's a prominent rumor that he will announce his choice on his birthday, which is in early November. Literally nobody knows which way he's leaning if he does in fact announce on that day.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:46 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 am So is no news good or bad? I can’t decide.
There's a prominent rumor that he will announce his choice on his birthday, which is in early November. Literally nobody knows which way he's leaning if he does in fact announce on that day.

The 3 schools are Arizona, Gonzaga, and Washington. He started following UA players and staff on social media. So that is a good sign.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:03 am

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:46 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 am So is no news good or bad? I can’t decide.
There's a prominent rumor that he will announce his choice on his birthday, which is in early November. Literally nobody knows which way he's leaning if he does in fact announce on that day.
The 3 schools are Arizona, Gonzaga, and Washington. He started following UA players and staff on social media. So that is a good sign.

USC is in there too.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:40 am

UA was his first official visit last October and the only school to get a second official visit. Hopefully he wants to be part of this class in our first year in the Big 12.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:13 am

If I was Zoom I would wait until the spring. Who knows who is going to go pro, or enter the portal. The UA is stacked at guard, although I am sure Zoom would play. But so are the Zags. For being coached it should either be UA or Zags. And that includes competition in practice.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:06 pm

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:46 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 am So is no news good or bad? I can’t decide.
There's a prominent rumor that he will announce his choice on his birthday, which is in early November. Literally nobody knows which way he's leaning if he does in fact announce on that day.
The 3 schools are Arizona, Gonzaga, and Washington. He started following UA players and staff on social media. So that is a good sign.

Lol...I was basically told to pipe down on here recently when I asked about Zoom. I still don't think he'll end up at AZ, but it's funny how his recruitment is maybe murkier than some here have claimed.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:58 pm

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:00 am

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:13 am If I was Zoom I would wait until the spring. Who knows who is going to go pro, or enter the portal. The UA is stacked at guard, although I am sure Zoom would play. But so are the Zags. For being coached it should either be UA or Zags. And that includes competition in practice.

I think these guys committing at a late date hurt their team. It takes planning to put a recruiting class and roster together.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:50 pm

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:07 am

Zoom Diallo

There were rumblings he would commit on his birthday (yesterday), but that never materialized. We previously reported Gonzaga and Washington were the teams out front for the five-star prospect and we see no reason to change course on that right now. Arizona is still lingering behind.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:49 pm

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:50 pm

Is it normal for Tommy to keep watching him if it's a foregone conclusion he's going elsewhere?

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:48 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:49 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:50 pm

Is it normal for Tommy to keep watching him if it's a foregone conclusion he's going elsewhere?

Nembhard to UA was a foregone conclusion until it wasn't. I think Tommy learned from that.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:54 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:49 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:50 pm

Is it normal for Tommy to keep watching him if it's a foregone conclusion he's going elsewhere?

There's literally zero foregone conclusion in regards to this recruitment.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:46 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:54 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:49 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:50 pm

Is it normal for Tommy to keep watching him if it's a foregone conclusion he's going elsewhere?
There's literally zero foregone conclusion in regards to this recruitment.

Thanks, Choo. So much intrigue with Zoom.

I still think our roster outlook for next season makes it a little hard to see where Zoom fits in. But if Tommy is still putting time into this recruitment, we have to assume he’s got a starting 5 envisioned for next season that includes Zoom. Maybe Zoom, Jamari, Carter, FB and Krivas? Feel like our frontcourt is anyone’s guess for next season. Could use a solid transfer or two. Depends on the Veesaar situation too.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:08 pm

Don't forget KJ Lewis

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:50 pm

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:08 pm Don't forget KJ Lewis

Absolutely. I'm going to assume Zoom isn't coming, so next year it could be Jamari, KJ, Carter, FB, Krivas.

This assumes Boswell leaves, of course. If he's back, we're looking at one of the best backcourts in the country.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:48 pm

We will likely only have one spot remaining on our roster unless someone leaves early, or transfers…which will inevitably happen of course.

K. Boswell 6’2” G Junior
J. Bradley 6’3” G Junior
J. Phillips 6’3” G Freshman
C. Bryant 6’8” F Freshman
M. Krivas 7’2” C Sophomore
K. Lewis 6’4” G. Sophomore
F. Borovicanin 6’8” W Junior
P. Murauskas 6’8” W Sophomore
E. Stephen 7’0” C Freshman
H. Veesaar 6’10” F Junior
D. Anderson 7’0” C Junior
C. Martinez 6’0” G Sophomore

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