Bear Down Wildcats

The 2022 Maui Invitational is set for Monday, Nov. 21 through Wednesday, Nov. 23 in Hawaii. This year's teams are Arizona, Arkansas, Cincinnati, Creighton, Louisville, Ohio State, San Diego State and Texas Tech. All games will be on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU.

2022 Maui Invitational schedule

Note: All times ET and subject to change

Monday, Nov. 21

Game 1: Texas Tech vs. Creighton | 2:30 p.m. ET | ESPN2
Game 2: Louisville vs. Arkansas | 5 p.m. | ESPN2
Game 3: Ohio State vs. San Diego State | 9 p.m. | ESPNU
Game 4: Cincinnati vs. Arizona | 11:30 p.m. | ESPN2

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-me ... dule-teams

9:30 Tucson time... yuck

Assuming we win the first game, the game vs the Aztecs should be a very good one and it will tell us a lot

azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:22 am Assuming we win the first game, the game vs the Aztecs should be a very good one and it will tell us a lot

If they play the Aztecs.

This is a fantastic field for Maui. Many of these teams could be in the NCAA tourney.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:27 am This is a fantastic field for Maui. Many of these teams could be in the NCAA tourney.

All of the teams could make the tourney.

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:41 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:27 am This is a fantastic field for Maui. Many of these teams could be in the NCAA tourney.

Allof the teams could make the tourney.

You’re joking right? Have you seen Louisville? Lost to Bellarmine, Wright State, and Appalachian State. Also lost their exhibition game against Leonor Rhyne (D2).

They look pathetic. If anyone in Maui loses to Louisville it will be embarrassing.

AP top 25
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... fz;rn;fp;1;;;

Men's College Basketball Rankings
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

Don't sleep on Ohio State

Matchups with current KenPom rankings:

Game 1: #24 Texas Tech vs. #20 Creighton
Game 2: #126 Louisville vs. #13 Arkansas
Game 3: #28 Ohio State vs. #17 San Diego State
Game 4: #66 Cincinnati vs. #12 Arizona

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:29 pm Don't sleep on Ohio State

Nah, they're always dangerous.

I'll be happy if we can get 2 wins in Maui.

Only way Louisville makes the tourney is the acc tourney ship

KaibabKat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:26 pm Matchups with current KenPom rankings:

Game 1: #24 Texas Tech vs. #20 Creighton
Game 2: #126 Louisville vs. #13 Arkansas
Game 3: #28 Ohio State vs. #17 San Diego State
Game 4: #66 Cincinnati vs. #12 Arizona

How much does Kenpom still factor in last year's performance at this point

Lute4God wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:36 pm

KaibabKat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:26 pm Matchups with current KenPom rankings:

Game 1: #24 Texas Tech vs. #20 Creighton
Game 2: #126 Louisville vs. #13 Arkansas
Game 3: #28 Ohio State vs. #17 San Diego State
Game 4: #66 Cincinnati vs. #12 Arizona

How much does Kenpom still factor in last year's performance at this point

It is my understanding that preseason rankings become decreasingly important as the season goes on but that do not "disappear" until mid to late January. He gives a rather lengthy discussion of this on his blog.

Sure like this kid.

KaibabKat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:26 pm Matchups with current KenPom rankings:

Game 1: #24 Texas Tech vs. #20 Creighton
Game 2: #126 Louisville vs. #13 Arkansas
Game 3: #28 Ohio State vs. #17 San Diego State
Game 4: #66 Cincinnati vs. #12 Arizona

Wow. That is a deep field.

Updated:
Game 1: #26 Texas Tech vs #23 Creighton
Game 2: #123 Louisville vs. #14 Arkansas
Game 3: #29 Ohio State vs. #17 San Diego State
Game 4: #63 Cincinnati vs. #11 Arizona

We are up to #6 on College Basketball Ranking Composite

None of it means anything. Win Maui and maybe we have a team.

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:44 pm None of it means anything. Win Maui and maybe we have a team.

I think there is a bit more nuance than that.

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:57 pm

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:44 pm None of it means anything. Win Maui and maybe we have a team.

I think there is a bit more nuance than that.

A little more, but you know what I mean.

What to watch for from Arizona men’s basketball at the Maui Invitational
By Brian J. Pedersen Nov 20, 2022,

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... ommy-lloyd

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:18 pm

Not cracking one Greg?

HiCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:35 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:18 pm

Not cracking one Greg?

It's unlikely I'll be awake for the game tonight.

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:39 pm

HiCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:35 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:18 pm

Not cracking one Greg?

It's unlikely I'll be awake for the game tonight.

Hopefully Cincy isn’t either.

930 tip? I'll be asleep by the 15 minute mark if the first half

Arkansas destroyed Louisville 80-54

Canning venison into the night, I might be done by the time this thing starts. Gotta get up at 4. 11:30 is late.

Damn I thought it was 8:30 for some reason, glad I'm off work tomorrow!

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:21 pm Canning venison into the night...

Is that some sort of sexual innuendo?

I've never heard it called that before!

No innuendo, just jars of meat in a pressure cooker.

There's bagging a doe but I've never heard canning venison be anything but what it is.

I took a nice nap after work.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit snorting coke.

Kerr: I like to chill and watch Netflix

Normal football start time tomorrow.

No. 14 Arizona Basketball advances in Maui, prepares for SDSU

https://zonazealots.com/2022/11/21/no-1 ... ares-sdsu/

Arizona Basketball vs San Diego State Game Information and Details:

Date: Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2022
Time: 8:30 P.M. MST / 7:30 P.M. PST
Television: ESPN
Location: Lāhainā Civic Center, Lahaina, HI (2,400)

Arizona’s offense shines in win over Cincinnati to open Maui Invitational
By Brian J. Pedersen Nov 21, 2022, 10:56pm PST

Azuolas Tubelis and Oumar Ballo dominated inside, while the transfer duo of Cedric Henderson Jr. and Courtney Ramey combined for 31 points with a mix of drives and perimeter shots as the 14th-ranked Wildcats shook off a slow start to run past Cincinnati 101-93 on Monday night in Lahaina, Hawaii.

The UA (4-0) will take on No. 17 San Diego State, an 88-77 winner over Ohio State, in the Maui semifinals at 8:30 p.m. MT Tuesday.

Arizona shot 62.3 percent, hitting 79.3 percent of its shots in the second half including the first 12 en route to 61 points after halftime. Tubelis had 30 points on 12-of-18 shooting, adding 11 rebounds, while Ballo had 20 on 8-of-11 shooting with 10 boards.


https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... ghts-stats

162? Almost guaranteed to make money off the over

SDSU is a legit contender, based on what I've seen of them. This game will give us a real indication of where we're currently at, and maybe of where we could eventually get.

We won’t be as good as we can be u til we get consistent scoring off the bench. Other than Henderson no one scored and that could prove to be to big of a drop off from our starters in big games

Was Bal hurt or just in the doghouse?

Agreed. Versus the Bearcats the starters averaged almost 30 minutes. Not sure it that's what Tommy was hoping for going into this 3 day tourney.

Henderson showing himself worthy of starters minutes so there is that bright spot.

azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:03 pm We won’t be as good as we can be u til we get consistent scoring off the bench. Other than Henderson no one scored and that could prove to be to big of a drop off from our starters in big games

True. Henderson is looking like a very solid bench option, but we need Bal, Boswell and Veesaar to produce. I'm gonna trust that these three will improve over the course of the season.

It's really exciting watching the players develop and show what they can do. Ramey is a real plus to the roster, I see a little Kemba Walker in him. We're gonna need him to rise to the occasion because SDSU and Arkansas are no joke. I'm worried about our confidence levels on this court. Last year, there was no question who was our leader; he had boatloads of confidence. We still run our sets quasi passively at times, it reminds of me of Houston and how they seized upon the opportunity. I'm not sure if Lloyd has learned from that experience yet. We still lack confidence and are a little tentative on the court. I could see it in Larsson and a few of the other players.

Henderson is solid. I like his offensive ability more than DT's.He reminds me of Stanimal a little bit. There's a composure to his game, a patience that SJ had that I see. It's really nice. I just wish he had the defensive side of DT.

As other posters have noted, we need Veesaar and we need him bad. It's early in the season, but from what I've observed, the moment seems to big for him. We seriously need his contributions on defense. With his length and athleticism, he can help alter and block shots as a rim protector. The Landers Nolley situation will be a recurring one, because we don't have an athletic combo forward to switch on players of his caliber. It definitely needs to be addressed for next year. I was hoping Bal could focus on defense and really develop there, but I've yet to see that yet.

Based on KenPom, we dropped to the 50's on defense from the 30's prior to the game. We have to tighten up a bit. The impact defensive players that were schooled by the previous regime are gone and so we're gonna have to find an identity on defense, or else we're gonna suffer the same fate in the tournament as last year. I know that CTL understands defense, but I'm not sure if he can teach it, as he is an offensively minded coach. He may need to bring in someone who can shore it up. SDSU will be a good test. They pride themselves on their depth and believe that they will wear us down. I don't think that's going to happen because we can go deep into our bench as well, I'm just concerned about containing perimeter shooters and defense to make sure our leads don't evaporate. I hope we make the championship game, I think that Arkansas (or Creighton) will teach us a lot about ourselves if we get there.

Oh, and Zu is a beast. And the great thing is we haven't seen the best of him yet.

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:08 pm Was Bal hurt or just in the doghouse?

I thought he was just playing like shit. Working himself out of the rotation especially with Ramey back and Henderson playing so well.

Larsson had a bad game too, but at least he has the potential to put a lot of points on the board and play some killer defense.

I have 0 hope of Veesar not turning into Kirk Walters this season, but lots of potential as an upperclassmen if he hits the weight room. At least we knew Anderson was a major project, but Veesar was highly touted.

Winning against Cinci was big.

No matter what we are playing 2 very good teams tonight / tomorrow.

We should have a better idea of who/what this team is by Thanksgiving