dc4azcats wrote:Harvey Specter wrote:Newportcat wrote:Guys, our class last year was not good. We didn't recruit well after having three straight classes that improved on themselves. We missed out on almost all our big targets and did not recruit our key markets well like SoCal. It's not like we were coming off a bad season either, not as good as last year but still 8-5 and bowl won which for Arizona football is a damn good season and AND we were one year in to the Lowell Stevens facility which was supposed to by the savior for recruiting. Now I really like this class because we are doing all the things we should be doing, recruiting SoCal well, getting mostly strong three star recruits and some four stars, getting size along the lines, getting good JUCO mid year transfers, and recruiting speed. Love to see some more local recruits but this is a very good class for us.
Some of you should stop making excuses for our team as we should expect these type of classes every year especially with the new facility. We will never have top ten class like basketball, but we should be able to bring in top 20-30 Classes every year. Also this well the guy lost a star or didn't gain a star because he was recruited to Arizona is pathetic. None of these sites have a vendetta against Arizona.
With the exception of the board members who seem compelled to defend the infallibility of the staff at every turn, I think most would agree that last year's class was pretty disappointing on paper (why not signing a QB hurt our class ranking went over my head, but whatever). That said, we won't know for a while how good it actually is.
But it is done... And why you feel the need to continue harping on it is beyond me. They are in school, the class is not changing, and all we can do is hope for the best - and look ahead.
This class is shaping up nicely - I like getting the 4 star studs with impressive offer lists; it not only speaks to the talent entering the program, but also the stature of the program in recruits' eyes. It seems like the "stars don't matter crowd" likes getting those guys, too - although they never admit it when we don't.
Please, one of you tell me how you know this class sucks when not a one has played a snap as yet? I'm not defending the coaching staff, I'm saying how idiotic it is to declare a class a failure when not a one has stepped on the field. And, most of this class won't see the field for at the very least 2 years. In 2 years time if you want to say this class sucked and here's why? I'm all ears. But to say this class sucks at the end of July is pure ignorance since you have nothing to base it on. But on paper? And we all know how many games are played on paper.
Would ou f*cking read the you post you respond to before arching your back and going into your best little league Mom routine? Nowhere did I come close to saying "I know thi class sucks". Your true believer shtick is sweet, really, but your insistence on vilifying everyone who does not mimic it has been long in the tooth for longer than I can remember.
Last year's class was disappointing ON PAPER, but it's effectiveness is yet to be determined. That is what I said, and I will stand by it. I will also hope that it turns out to be terrific.
Your "Scooby was a 2-star" shpiel is as predictable as Rain Man's declaration that "K-Mart sucks". Scooby is a stud... But your argument weakens if you would ever take a look at the hit rate on 2 and low-rated 3-stars. It would be like saying saying an NFL team should never take a QB rated in the top 10 on the board in the draft because Montana and Brady are the best to play the position, while Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell were busts.
At least you are upping your game in creative ways no one else could devise: "Last year's class was low rated because we did not sign a QB"; if only we could have grabbed a Cameron Allerheiligen or a Javelle Allen in the spring - we would have been Top 20.
But you also love to point to grabs like Tate, Modster, and Eletise of this staff's prowess on the recruiting trail... If you had a shred of objectivity and credibility, you should instead reply with "let's not get too excited until these guys are on campus and see how they perform". But credibility and objectivity are not requirements for being head of the cheerleading squad.
This staff can flat out coach, that is not debatable - but if they are going to coach a conference champion, the talent in the program needs to be upgraded. Last year was a special year where the team over-achieved. They magically won the south, but also were 39 points shy of a conference championship. Talent eventually a catches up with you.
Our first Final 4 under Lute came with a PG who had no other offers, and a local Tucson kid. By your rationale, that should be the formula that Miller needs to follow to get to his first Final 4.
