Fallen Leaf

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:02 am

I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:28 am

Leaf is very good, but Josh Jackson is the "gem" of the class

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:35 am

Beachcat97 wrote:I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."

No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:47 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."
No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.

What about a more athletic Ivan Radenovic?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:51 am

I agree with 97 that JJ is the man in this class. Must get. As for Leaf he shoots it like Ricky Anderson ad much better vision, more like Walton and Iggy

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:52 am

3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."
No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.
What about a more athletic Ivan Radenovic?

How about a less pigmented LaMarcus Aldridge.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:03 am

Josh Jackson

Is Leaf a good defender?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:29 am

Leaf has the size and quickness to become a good defender, if he's not one already.

And I didn't realize that Arizona is right where it wants to be with JJ.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:33 am

Beachcat97 wrote:And I didn't realize that Arizona is right where it wants to be with JJ.

I don't think anyone said that.

Also, don't hijack your own thread.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:55 pm

Chicat wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."
No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.
What about a more athletic Ivan Radenovic?
How about a less pigmented LaMarcus Aldridge.

Since when have cross racial comparisons been allowed?

He's white, so I'm astonished next Larry Bird hasn't been tossed out yet.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:15 pm

3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."
No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.
What about a more athletic Ivan Radenovic?

Or a smarter Ryan Leaf.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:15 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I couldn't find a thread just on TJ and thought he deserved one. As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

For those who've watched him a lot, are there any former 'Cats you'd compare him to? He seems to get off the floor well, has good handles, and can be a "stretch 4."
No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.
What about a more athletic Ivan Radenovic?
How about a less pigmented LaMarcus Aldridge.
Since when have cross racial comparisons been allowed?

He's white, so I'm astonished next Larry Bird hasn't been tossed out yet.

Dunleavy and Parsons in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:16 pm

knock it off!!!!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:36 pm

Pretty fly for a wh.... oh never mind.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:37 pm

gumby wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote: No ex-Cats that I can think of. My comparison would be a stronger, more athletic (slightly shorter) Kyle Wiltjer. He has a similar touch around the rim and ability to face and shoot, but is just light years better in foot speed and bounce.
What about a more athletic Ivan Radenovic?
How about a less pigmented LaMarcus Aldridge.
Since when have cross racial comparisons been allowed?

He's white, so I'm astonished next Larry Bird hasn't been tossed out yet.
Dunleavy and Parsons in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1.

Do Europeans count as white? Nowitzki, Schrempf and Bargnani are incoming.

Uwe Blab. DWAYNE SCHINTZIUS. TJ McConnell. Brent Barry. Rick Barry. George Mikan. Every member of the 60's Celtics except KC Jones and Bill Russell.

He's like Mark Price, except he's 6'10, not a point guard, has never made a NBA allstar team, etc. But he's white and pees standing up.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:48 pm

Chicat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:And I didn't realize that Arizona is right where it wants to be with JJ.
I don't think anyone said that.

Also, don't hijack your own thread.

Read the thread, Chi. 97 said, and I quote, JJ is the "gem of the class."

So yeah, not only did someone say that, it was the person who tends to be most in the know.

Originally, I asked for former Cats with similar games to TJ's. This whole race thing seems to have started with your "less pigmented" remark.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:24 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:And I didn't realize that Arizona is right where it wants to be with JJ.
I don't think anyone said that.

Also, don't hijack your own thread.
Read the thread, Chi. 97 said, and I quote, JJ is the "gem of the class."

So yeah, not only did someone say that, it was the person who tends to be most in the know.

Originally, I asked for former Cats with similar games to TJ's. This whole race thing seems to have started with your "less pigmented" remark.

He's like a basketball version of Snow's "Informer."

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:18 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:And I didn't realize that Arizona is right where it wants to be with JJ.
I don't think anyone said that.

Also, don't hijack your own thread.
Read the thread, Chi. 97 said, and I quote, JJ is the "gem of the class."

So yeah, not only did someone say that, it was the person who tends to be most in the know.

Originally, I asked for former Cats with similar games to TJ's. This whole race thing seems to have started with your "less pigmented" remark.

Gem of our class or the gem of the entire class of high school students? I took it as the latter.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:59 pm

gumby wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:And I didn't realize that Arizona is right where it wants to be with JJ.
I don't think anyone said that.

Also, don't hijack your own thread.
Read the thread, Chi. 97 said, and I quote, JJ is the "gem of the class."

So yeah, not only did someone say that, it was the person who tends to be most in the know.

Originally, I asked for former Cats with similar games to TJ's. This whole race thing seems to have started with your "less pigmented" remark.
Gem of our class or the gem of the entire class of high school students? I took it as the latter.

I did too.

There is still the possibility he never sees an NCAA court. I don't think any school is right where it wants to be with Mr. Jackson.

But we're talking about Mr. Leaf...

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:52 pm

For possibly the first (and likely only) time in history, I am siding with BC97 on this one.

From the OP in the thread:

BeachCat97 wrote:As of now, he's the gem of our '16 class.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:49 am

Is it really much of a stretch to say our only commit of our 2016 class is the gem of the class so far?

Hobbes · Post by **Hobbes** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:38 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Is it really much of a stretch to say our only commit of our 2016 class is the gem of the class so far?

So true.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:57 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Is it really much of a stretch to say our only commit of our 2016 class is the gem of the class so far?

Yes, he's our only commit, but he could still end up being the gem of the class. He's a legit 5 star and ranked in the top 10 nationally. If we add someone ranked higher, we're looking at another top 5 class nationally.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:33 pm

I'm now even more confused.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:31 pm

I'm not saying he's the gem. I'm just saying he's a gem.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:53 pm

I thought TJ had one of the best summers of his class? 247 dropped him 10 sports 23 or something like that! WTF?

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:50 pm

So is he a gem or not?!

Airizona · Post by **Airizona** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:10 am

I don't time to look up the stats but he played really well for the Israeli team this summer. Was a double double machine

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:52 pm

Tell me good things about him.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:12 pm

gumby wrote:Tell me good things about him.

He Israel good at basketball.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:43 pm

But Syriasly folks ....

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:54 pm

AND HE JUST DECOMMITTED. WHAT THE FUCK?!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:56 pm

Uh what

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:06 pm

anyone know why?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:09 pm

btfd16 wrote:anyone know why?

Compton Magic and Adidas is the only reason I can think of.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:28 pm

I'm pissed

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:29 pm

Can Miller recruit?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:34 pm

This is why you don't recruit over commitments. Say all you want about kids needing to compete. Kids are jackasses.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:42 pm

Longhorned wrote:This is why you don't recruit over commitments. Say all you want about kids needing to compete. Kids are jackasses.

I don't think anyone in the world should be scared off of Lightfoot, but the FInnish kid, De'ron Davis, when you already have Leaf, Ray Smith, pushing for Josh Jackson, and have Ristic and Comanche wtf is your strategy here? Well I guess the strategy was to force out our 5 star future NBA 4 man. Great job guys.

Pop McKale · Post by **Pop McKale** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:49 pm

I'm mellllllting...melllllting....oh what a world!!!

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:51 pm

I have a feeling he will end up at UCLA.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:53 pm

Irish27 wrote:I have a feeling he will end up at UCLA.

Oh geez, beach cat is going to have an epic meltdown

PennZona20 · Post by **PennZona20** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:54 pm

Lightfoot is Korchek 2.0 so he shouldn't matter, Comanche is CLEARLY A PROJECT so he's no sure thing. Ristic is only legit big man and who knows if he stays at az 4 years (thinking overseas for a few more so than NBA) going forward.

Leaf is 100% a 4 not a 5 so I don't understand why Leaf would be upset if they are recruiting a 5 like Davis or the Finnish kid to play next to him???

Doesn't seem like that could be a real issue unless kid is getting some bad advice or something about it.

The 4-spot is wiiiiiiiiiiide open for playing time for '16 and beyond w our long term 4 jumping ship to Baton Rouge last year.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:02 pm

PennZona20 wrote:Lightfoot is Korchek 2.0 so he shouldn't matter, Comanche is CLEARLY A PROJECT so he's no sure thing. Ristic is only legit big man and who knows if he stays at az 4 years (thinking overseas for a few more so than NBA) going forward.

Leaf is 100% a 4 not a 5 so I don't understand why Leaf would be upset if they are recruiting a 5 like Davis or the Finnish kid to play next to him???

Doesn't seem like that could be a real issue unless kid is getting some bad advice or something about it.

The 4-spot is wiiiiiiiiiiide open for playing time for '16 and beyond w our long term 4 jumping ship to Baton Rouge last year.

I'm with you on Lightfoot.

I know full well Comanche and Ristic are 5s and Leaf is a 4. The point is why is Arizona throwing out offers left and right to numerous post players when you already have your starting 5 next season, your back up 5 next season, your starting 4 man next season, and numerous candidates for back up 4 (Smith, Jackson can both play the 4 in college with zero problems).

Meanwhile Arizona is serious with the Finnish kid, De'Ron Davis, and Korcheck 2.0. I agree the last one shouldn't matter, but if I'm an opposing coaching staff I sure as hell push the angle that Arizona is either A. recruiting over you or B. doesn't think you're good enough to start at the level they want you to right away.

In regards to Comanche being a project, if he shows he's not capable the following year then you recruit a high level 2017 center like Brandon McCoy, but he's a 4 star "project" for a reason. So in the end Miller's roster management here gets an F. He didn't need to recruit more bigs. Lightfoot as a Korcheck 2.0 should have been the only one to pursue for this class. He likely screwed himself and he sure as hell didn't need to.

Now Arizona has to try to convince the Finnish kid to pass on Utah (connection with his trusted head coach) and UNC (connection with his dad) to have an actual NBA caliber true PF on its roster next season. I don't exactly have tons of confidence in Sean Miller right now to pull that off, although we do have playing time to sell him that we didn't have before.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:03 pm

Actually, I agree with Salim Shooter. The more I hear about this, the more comfortable I am with him not coming to Arizona. Not meant to be.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:21 pm

If people don't want to come and play in the best west program for the past 30 years then that's fine. Arizona and miller will be fine without them.

Just like this year. Let's see how Rabb and Cal do versus how Arizona does.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:33 pm

Choochoo step away from the cliff and breath!

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:37 pm

I just cannot imagine the balls it takes to pick up the phone to call a coach that you have been committed to and tell them that you are now "out". Especially when you are going to end up at their #1 rival. That is some big ol' balls!!

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:53 pm

3goggles wrote:Choochoo step away from the cliff and breath!

Just upset, because Miller had Zeus, Ashley, Chol, and Jerrett and we all saw how that worked out. So what does Miller do? Attempts to recreate the situation again with the multiple big offers he has out and in turn lost his NBA PF next year. It's ridiculous and totally unnecessary. You have the golden goose, you don't need to go chase golden eggs when the guy you already have locked up shits them out. Sigh....

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:59 pm

I wouldn't call him the golden goose

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