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I hate the fact our program typically sucks but unlike you DC I recognize that if you do not recruit talented players constantly you typically are not going to be good constantly no matter the coaching.
I used to be called Johnny optimist but after being a fan long enough of Arizona football you realize that it is a hard job, tough to recruit too, and bad things typically happen to us because we never recruit anywhere close to what we recruit at for other sports at U of A.
I am incredibly optimistic about Arizona baseball because we have a history of winning, great facilities, and most importantly we can recruit great players. Our new coach brought in a Top 20 recruiting class his first year here. Think how amazing that is and thats with like 4-5 guys declaring for the draft.
I am just realistic I guess and I do find it interesting/funny when fans like you think differently because the hard evidence seems to me so overwhelming in my favor of being a half glass empty type fan.
Just me
I used to be called Johnny optimist but after being a fan long enough of Arizona football you realize that it is a hard job, tough to recruit too, and bad things typically happen to us because we never recruit anywhere close to what we recruit at for other sports at U of A.
I am incredibly optimistic about Arizona baseball because we have a history of winning, great facilities, and most importantly we can recruit great players. Our new coach brought in a Top 20 recruiting class his first year here. Think how amazing that is and thats with like 4-5 guys declaring for the draft.
I am just realistic I guess and I do find it interesting/funny when fans like you think differently because the hard evidence seems to me so overwhelming in my favor of being a half glass empty type fan.
Just me
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Depending if RR does leave for the ACC, I would have misread his ambitions. After Michigan, I really thought RR wanted to demonstrate his ability to rebuild and highly succeed at a power FOUR school. To prove something. That chip on the shoulder he was referencing to. If he's satisfied with ACC in a weaker division, then fine. If he wants to leave, i'd rather him be offered a job and leave. Don't stay at AZ because best what he feels he can have at the moment or he 'has' to.splitsecond wrote: If RichRod does leave, it's because he has decided he can't recruit here or is too lazy to figure out how to beat out other Pac schools in recruiting. If that's the case, then that means he can't do the job he was hired to do. People are bringing up this bullshit yet again about football not coming first, when it is abundantly clear that Greg Byrne knows the value of football and make it first rate here, if not most important.
ACC? Sure Clemson, fsu. But ACC has issues. VT a football school, but they have to be careful and more frugal with their spending than an AZ.
VT gig interesting because VT has to worry about costs a little on the HC, but probably more on money it spends for rest of its next football staff.
Beamer contract says he gets paid $250k year for next 8 years as special assistant
DC Bud Foster has a 5year contract in place. If next VT HC doesn't retain him until 12/31, VT must pay Foster $1.3 mil. If Foster loses his job anytime next year, then VT must pay Foster $1.2 mil. Foster's salary $900k, almost twice Casteel's. I'm not convinced Foster would want to run the 3-3-5 .
VT other current assistants currently paid $2.3 million altogether. If staff not retained until next June or they get another job, VT must pay them (max $1.6 mil until June 2016). That's a lot to think about for VT
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There is something about the sport of football that produces incredible optimism each year. Then the games start and reality sets in. I know the golden ring for everyone at Arizona is reaching the Rose Bowl. If the College Football Playoffs had started this year and not last year, we make the Rose Bowl last year! It seems like even when we win, we lose out on the Rose Bowl at Arizona. I have made peace with that. Law of averages says we will make it some year. Be great if it happens in my lifetime.
This year's injuries is what puts an asterisk on the entire season. No team could have survived the injuries we have seen this year. People mention it in passing, but the numbers are truly staggering. I don't see any other way that RR could play it, because to talk about it too much gives your players a sense of hopelessness. It is what it is, and I am very proud of the way the Cats played at USC.
We need a good coach who keeps his passion and stays. I know RR felt he had something to prove after being fired at Michigan, but that motivation does not last. If he stays I believe he will have to address the defensive issues. I also think he will bring long-term success and get us to the Rose Bowl. But it ain't easy. One thing that is patently clear: He despises losing. That is a good thing in a football coach.
Go Cats!!
This year's injuries is what puts an asterisk on the entire season. No team could have survived the injuries we have seen this year. People mention it in passing, but the numbers are truly staggering. I don't see any other way that RR could play it, because to talk about it too much gives your players a sense of hopelessness. It is what it is, and I am very proud of the way the Cats played at USC.
We need a good coach who keeps his passion and stays. I know RR felt he had something to prove after being fired at Michigan, but that motivation does not last. If he stays I believe he will have to address the defensive issues. I also think he will bring long-term success and get us to the Rose Bowl. But it ain't easy. One thing that is patently clear: He despises losing. That is a good thing in a football coach.
Go Cats!!
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Knock it off man. Take a deep breath and not take things so damn seriously. And of course we can make fun of our coaches.cordera89 wrote:Merkin just shoot your ahead ok if you really want to go their, I don't care if it was a joke or not. It BS to make fun our coaches. I mean how funny would it been if Casteel and Kir would of said we don't like to recruit in Arizona? Do you want paint that as a joke.Merkin wrote:I don't think Cordera89's first language is English. Not the first time a joke went over his head.UAdevil wrote:That was a joke. Lighten up man.cordera89 wrote:That bullshit.CalStateTempe wrote:RR to Castell before the 'SC game: "we're going to VT so try not to make the 3-3-5 look like garbage tonight, m'kay?"
Castell: "Gotcha Rich, will do"
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It seems to me that the only reasonable questions that RichRod is likely to be asking are:
1. What is the best career step for me as a football coach?
2. What will be best for me and my family?
And, I think that staying at Arizona is a debatable prospect on each of these questions.
I hope he stays. But, a decision to move to any of those other jobs wouldn't be too difficult to understand....
1. What is the best career step for me as a football coach?
2. What will be best for me and my family?
And, I think that staying at Arizona is a debatable prospect on each of these questions.
I hope he stays. But, a decision to move to any of those other jobs wouldn't be too difficult to understand....
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ztonyg wrote:Rich Rod is doing NOTHING to put out these flames.
The best thing, I believe, at this point for the this season and the future would be for Rich Rod to either announce he's going (and name an interim coach for the rest of the season) or for him to announce he's staying.
I think RR learned his lesson when he announced he was leaving WVU for UM before the season ended. That didn't go over all that well.
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I think he's waiting to see if he gets an offer at VT. I would think Miami would not be a gig he would want for several reasons although I could be wrong. I don't think an SEC school is going to take him on with defensive concerns, which is why I don't think he gets South Carolina. If he doesn't get any of those three, then I think he stays put for as long as we'll have him, provided the environment doesn't get toxic. In the future, if WVU, Florida State, or Clemson open up I could see him taking one of those if offered. I don't see any drawbacks for him or his family staying here as far as anything holding them back. He's well paid, Rhett is at a good school, and college is not a problem for either of his kids. Whether or not they like it enough here is another question. To me, the longer he stays in Tucson, the more likely he is to want to put down roots. All speculation on my part though.pc in NM wrote:It seems to me that the only reasonable questions that RichRod is likely to be asking are:
1. What is the best career step for me as a football coach?
2. What will be best for me and my family?
And, I think that staying at Arizona is a debatable prospect on each of these questions.
I hope he stays. But, a decision to move to any of those other jobs wouldn't be too difficult to understand....
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The first denial.
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The agents talk until the very end. Means nothing.minlistened to the interview and I didn't take away from it that RR sounded frustratedMerkin wrote:The first denial.
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So now we're comparing baseball to football? Baseball, much like Basketball allows coaches to go out and watch kids play games all day at different tournaments all over the country and all of those tournaments don't coincide with your own season. So the ability to evaluate with your eyes and see first hand is something that football coaches don't get the benefit of. It's apples and oranges but by all means please compare the sports as if everything is the same. In both basketball and Baseball, coaches can go sit in the bleachers at one location in a lot of cases and watch a plethora of players compete against each other. They can spend a whole weekend watching every top prospect in the State, region and even the country depending on the tournament. Where can you do that in football? It's one game on a Friday night and in some cases it might just be ONE player that night.Newportcat wrote:I hate the fact our program typically sucks but unlike you DC I recognize that if you do not recruit talented players constantly you typically are not going to be good constantly no matter the coaching.
I used to be called Johnny optimist but after being a fan long enough of Arizona football you realize that it is a hard job, tough to recruit too, and bad things typically happen to us because we never recruit anywhere close to what we recruit at for other sports at U of A.
I am incredibly optimistic about Arizona baseball because we have a history of winning, great facilities, and most importantly we can recruit great players. Our new coach brought in a Top 20 recruiting class his first year here. Think how amazing that is and thats with like 4-5 guys declaring for the draft.
I am just realistic I guess and I do find it interesting/funny when fans like you think differently because the hard evidence seems to me so overwhelming in my favor of being a half glass empty type fan.
Just me
Funny how nobody has said what would've happened if Bell, Polk and Sprotte had all been injured in '98 which was deep into Tomey's tenure at Arizona but 4 years into RR's tenure and it's because we don't recruit talented players? Got it.
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excellent post, catstatic. could not agree more.Catstatic wrote:There is something about the sport of football that produces incredible optimism each year. Then the games start and reality sets in. I know the golden ring for everyone at Arizona is reaching the Rose Bowl. If the College Football Playoffs had started this year and not last year, we make the Rose Bowl last year! It seems like even when we win, we lose out on the Rose Bowl at Arizona. I have made peace with that. Law of averages says we will make it some year. Be great if it happens in my lifetime.
This year's injuries is what puts an asterisk on the entire season. No team could have survived the injuries we have seen this year. People mention it in passing, but the numbers are truly staggering. I don't see any other way that RR could play it, because to talk about it too much gives your players a sense of hopelessness. It is what it is, and I am very proud of the way the Cats played at USC.
We need a good coach who keeps his passion and stays. I know RR felt he had something to prove after being fired at Michigan, but that motivation does not last. If he stays I believe he will have to address the defensive issues. I also think he will bring long-term success and get us to the Rose Bowl. But it ain't easy. One thing that is patently clear: He despises losing. That is a good thing in a football coach.
Go Cats!!
another reason i hope RR stays: to silence fans from the prospective east coast schools who think their program is too good for him and want to aim higher ┌∩┐(ಠ_ಠ)┌∩┐
i'm still hopeful that RR comes out of this as our HC with a big chip on his shoulder and fire in his belly. during the preseason, he admitted that he's getting a lot more easygoing and complacent with age. though it was mentioned in jest, there's certainly a small nugget of truth at its core, and maybe this whole situation will serve as yet another reminder that he's still got something to prove at Arizona.
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I was in the middle of something but I should have linked that - you're the one who did the legwork on that.Gimino wrote:Here is that 1993 starters list on defense....
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Baseball and basketball programs are in completely different worlds from our football program... For a variety of reasons that are not changing anytime soon.dc4azcats wrote:So now we're comparing baseball to football? Baseball, much like Basketball allows coaches to go out and watch kids play games all day at different tournaments all over the country and all of those tournaments don't coincide with your own season. So the ability to evaluate with your eyes and see first hand is something that football coaches don't get the benefit of. It's apples and oranges but by all means please compare the sports as if everything is the same. In both basketball and Baseball, coaches can go sit in the bleachers at one location in a lot of cases and watch a plethora of players compete against each other. They can spend a whole weekend watching every top prospect in the State, region and even the country depending on the tournament. Where can you do that in football? It's one game on a Friday night and in some cases it might just be ONE player that night.Newportcat wrote:I hate the fact our program typically sucks but unlike you DC I recognize that if you do not recruit talented players constantly you typically are not going to be good constantly no matter the coaching.
I used to be called Johnny optimist but after being a fan long enough of Arizona football you realize that it is a hard job, tough to recruit too, and bad things typically happen to us because we never recruit anywhere close to what we recruit at for other sports at U of A.
I am incredibly optimistic about Arizona baseball because we have a history of winning, great facilities, and most importantly we can recruit great players. Our new coach brought in a Top 20 recruiting class his first year here. Think how amazing that is and thats with like 4-5 guys declaring for the draft.
I am just realistic I guess and I do find it interesting/funny when fans like you think differently because the hard evidence seems to me so overwhelming in my favor of being a half glass empty type fan.
Just me
Funny how nobody has said what would've happened if Bell, Polk and Sprotte had all been injured in '98 which was deep into Tomey's tenure at Arizona but 4 years into RR's tenure and it's because we don't recruit talented players? Got it.
But as for difficulties in recruiting, all other FB programs have the same challenges you reference above that we do. On a relative basis, FB, BB, and Baseball issues/ advantages are realized by every school competing against each other in that sport.
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Hansen weighs in...
http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank
Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?
A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:
1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”
2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”
3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.
4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.
5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.
6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.
7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.
Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:
1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.
http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank
Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?
A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:
1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”
2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”
3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.
4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.
5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.
6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.
7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.
Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:
1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.
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I can't see any reason why we would assuredly be picked last in the south.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Let me help him out.Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...
http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank
Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?
A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:
1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”
2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”
3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.
4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.
5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.
6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.
7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.
Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:
1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.
3. Rich Rod is a fierce competitor and knows deep down he can compete for a natty at the UofA.
4. He has one of the best AD's in the land and that AD gave him a 2nd chance to get back into coaching. Rich Rod feels he owes Greg and will do everything he can to right this ship & start competing for championships.
5. You're a freaking tool Hansen!
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I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
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No matter what it seems like RR is going east in the next few years. The real question is who is the best replacement that will come to UA for the right price and when will he be able to move. Lots of movement to take place this winter, but will the next year or two be better?
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I think he would like it if RR left.Sid wrote:Let me help him out.Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...
http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank
Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?
A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:
1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”
2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”
3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.
4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.
5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.
6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.
7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.
Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:
1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.
3. Rich Rod is a fierce competitor and knows deep down he can compete for a natty at the UofA.
4. He has one of the best AD's in the land and that AD gave him a 2nd chance to get back into coaching. Rich Rod feels he owes Greg and will do everything he can to right this ship & start competing for championships.
5. You're a freaking tool Hansen!
Oh, and I'll add one more: 6. Leaving means he has to rebuild again. He is most likely ready to win now after spending his last seven coaching seasons rebuilding programs.
Again, not saying staying or going because I don't know. But there's a lot of factors in play. First among them if he even gets an offer.
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So glad we tore up the best natural turf field in the country for this guy.
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RR should have Casteel be Hansen's new tennis buddy.
RR is 1-7 vs. LA, 1-2 vs. ASU, and in his past life was 0-3 vs. tOSU and 0-3 vs. MSU.
also from Hansen:
Dear Mr. Football: What does Arizona have in common with Ernest Hemingway’s classic book “The Sun Also Rises”?
A. One of the most-quoted lines in Hemingway’s book is this:
“How did you go bankrupt?”
“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”
That should be the working theme for Arizona’s 2015 football season. The Wildcats thought they made a significant deposit by winning at Nevada. But since that game, the Wolf Pack lost to 1-8 Wyoming and 2-6 UNLV, two of the worst teams in college football.
That opening victory over UTSA? The Roadrunners are 1-7.
The UA’s September checks bounced.
I agree 100%. Just hope that finally realizes that gimmicky and obsolete defenses don't last. Look how long Rich Ellerson tried to push the double eagle flex since it's heyday in Desert Swarm. Once OCs figure out how to beat a certain defense it's over. Same with offenses too.Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
RR is 1-7 vs. LA, 1-2 vs. ASU, and in his past life was 0-3 vs. tOSU and 0-3 vs. MSU.
also from Hansen:
Dear Mr. Football: What does Arizona have in common with Ernest Hemingway’s classic book “The Sun Also Rises”?
A. One of the most-quoted lines in Hemingway’s book is this:
“How did you go bankrupt?”
“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”
That should be the working theme for Arizona’s 2015 football season. The Wildcats thought they made a significant deposit by winning at Nevada. But since that game, the Wolf Pack lost to 1-8 Wyoming and 2-6 UNLV, two of the worst teams in college football.
That opening victory over UTSA? The Roadrunners are 1-7.
The UA’s September checks bounced.
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...that's what bothers you?cpt wrote:So glad we tore up the best natural turf field in the country for this guy.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Among other things, yes.
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Ooook.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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I was going to bring that up. $1MM spent to please RR .... supposedly so his little OKGs could run faster.cpt wrote:So glad we tore up the best natural turf field in the country for this guy.
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Trying not to bring that up until RR gives me a reason. I loved that grass surface.
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Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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No matter what huh?PHXCATS wrote:No matter what it seems like RR is going east in the next few years. The real question is who is the best replacement that will come to UA for the right price and when will he be able to move. Lots of movement to take place this winter, but will the next year or two be better?
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Oh and something about attendance and bad fans. Etc..Etc..splitsecond wrote:No matter what huh?PHXCATS wrote:No matter what it seems like RR is going east in the next few years. The real question is who is the best replacement that will come to UA for the right price and when will he be able to move. Lots of movement to take place this winter, but will the next year or two be better?
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Don't the Packers play on grass? I just think it's a good tradition that a frozen tundra and an arid desert can both support grass.
Besides this bit of history:
The turf is a Bermuda Tiff, transplanted to the Stadium from Tucson Nation Golf Club when cart paths were added in the mid 1970s.
A Sports Illustrated survey in 1986 rated the Arizona stadium turf as one of the two best in America.
Besides this bit of history:
The turf is a Bermuda Tiff, transplanted to the Stadium from Tucson Nation Golf Club when cart paths were added in the mid 1970s.
A Sports Illustrated survey in 1986 rated the Arizona stadium turf as one of the two best in America.
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It's not 1986 anymore.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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You know what bounced? Anu's freaking head between (2) ruin defensive players. The entire world knows this past weekend was the 1st game that he's been right, Who cares about our non-conf games & whom they've played since? Hansen can go suck a dick!Merkin wrote:RR should have Casteel be Hansen's new tennis buddy.
I agree 100%. Just hope that finally realizes that gimmicky and obsolete defenses don't last. Look how long Rich Ellerson tried to push the double eagle flex since it's heyday in Desert Swarm. Once OCs figure out how to beat a certain defense it's over. Same with offenses too.Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
RR is 1-7 vs. LA, 1-2 vs. ASU, and in his past life was 0-3 vs. tOSU and 0-3 vs. MSU.
also from Hansen:
Dear Mr. Football: What does Arizona have in common with Ernest Hemingway’s classic book “The Sun Also Rises”?
A. One of the most-quoted lines in Hemingway’s book is this:
“How did you go bankrupt?”
“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”
That should be the working theme for Arizona’s 2015 football season. The Wildcats thought they made a significant deposit by winning at Nevada. But since that game, the Wolf Pack lost to 1-8 Wyoming and 2-6 UNLV, two of the worst teams in college football.
That opening victory over UTSA? The Roadrunners are 1-7.
The UA’s September checks bounced.
Has he written anything positive post the sc game? Any mention of de Beer starting on the OLine? Oh, and how about that stud making a one-handed tackle while being on the ground no less & the kid running the rock that got stoned was just a 5* recruit out of HS to boot, no biggie......
After we beat Utah I hope to God Rich Rod ignores Hansen in the presser.
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Hater has spoken everybody. Move along now.
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really? So only the crazy grass people get opinions now? But seriously...it's just friggin grass people. You sure you all aren't nc state fans?azgreg wrote:Hater has spoken everybody. Move along now.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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ASUHATER! wrote:Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.
Notable programs using grass surfaces: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Georgia, Tennessee, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, USC, UCLA,
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Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:ASUHATER! wrote:Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.
Notable programs using grass surfaces: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Georgia, Tennessee, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, USC, UCLA,
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I didn't like the grass and the bubble drain that was needed. Had to be up at row 15 to see the other side. But that's just me.
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Baylor, TCU, Utah.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:ASUHATER! wrote:Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.
Notable programs using grass surfaces: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Georgia, Tennessee, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, USC, UCLA,
Notable programs using field turf: Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oregon, Washington.
I wasn't happy with getting rid of grass. At the same time, I don't think it's a big deal, either.
Re: Coach Rod
Sid wrote:Let me help him out.Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...
http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank
Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?
A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:
1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”
2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”
3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.
4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.
5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.
6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.
7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.
Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:
1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.
3. Rich Rod is a fierce competitor and knows deep down he can compete for a natty at the UofA.
4. He has one of the best AD's in the land and that AD gave him a 2nd chance to get back into coaching. Rich Rod feels he owes Greg and will do everything he can to right this ship & start competing for championships.
5. You're a freaking tool Hansen!
I put that same article on the Scout Board a few day ago. But do you think Hansen doesn't care about RR can do at Arizona. I was mad reading this article.
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Chi wasn't a second ago you couldn't decide if you want RR to stay or go. Man I want him to stay and finish the job.Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
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Let hope we do beat Utah because this isn't going to be a game where he hold a 3-0 record against them. If Arizona play like the did on defense against USC too Utah then their hope we might win.Sid wrote:You know what bounced? Anu's freaking head between (2) ruin defensive players. The entire world knows this past weekend was the 1st game that he's been right, Who cares about our non-conf games & whom they've played since? Hansen can go suck a dick!Merkin wrote:RR should have Casteel be Hansen's new tennis buddy.
I agree 100%. Just hope that finally realizes that gimmicky and obsolete defenses don't last. Look how long Rich Ellerson tried to push the double eagle flex since it's heyday in Desert Swarm. Once OCs figure out how to beat a certain defense it's over. Same with offenses too.Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
RR is 1-7 vs. LA, 1-2 vs. ASU, and in his past life was 0-3 vs. tOSU and 0-3 vs. MSU.
also from Hansen:
Dear Mr. Football: What does Arizona have in common with Ernest Hemingway’s classic book “The Sun Also Rises”?
A. One of the most-quoted lines in Hemingway’s book is this:
“How did you go bankrupt?”
“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”
That should be the working theme for Arizona’s 2015 football season. The Wildcats thought they made a significant deposit by winning at Nevada. But since that game, the Wolf Pack lost to 1-8 Wyoming and 2-6 UNLV, two of the worst teams in college football.
That opening victory over UTSA? The Roadrunners are 1-7.
The UA’s September checks bounced.
Has he written anything positive post the sc game? Any mention of de Beer starting on the OLine? Oh, and how about that stud making a one-handed tackle while being on the ground no less & the kid running the rock that got stoned was just a 5* recruit out of HS to boot, no biggie......
After we beat Utah I hope to God Rich Rod ignores Hansen in the presser.
3 reasons why Rich Rodriguez should leave the Arizona Wildca
Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.
1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.
Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank
Do yawl agree with this.
1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.
Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank
Do yawl agree with this.
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I don't remember wavering on whether I want him to stay or go.cordera89 wrote:Chi wasn't a second ago you couldn't decide if you want RR to stay or go.Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
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I guess it was someone else thing.Chicat wrote:I don't remember wavering on whether I want him to stay or go.cordera89 wrote:Chi wasn't a second ago you couldn't decide if you want RR to stay or go.Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
For me I want him to stay regardless.
Re: 3 reasons why Rich Rodriguez should leave the Arizona Wi
cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.
1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.
Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank
Do yawl agree with this.
Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.
I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.
Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.
Hoping this all BS!! Please!!
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Maybe Hansen should leave and take Casteel with him.
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Winning a NC would be much easier in the ACC. You go undefeated in the ACC, which is much easier to do than the PAC 12, you are getting invited to the playoff. Also, last I checked it is the ACC that produces the second most NFL talent to the SEC. So he would have a rich talent bed in an easier conference.ramcat wrote:cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.
1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.
Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank
Do yawl agree with this.
Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.
I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.
Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.
Hoping this all BS!! Please!!
Re: 3 reasons why Rich Rodriguez should leave the Arizona Wi
I wish it was BS but it not. Ok let say this to question this write merit.ramcat wrote:cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.
1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.
Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank
Do yawl agree with this.
Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.
I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.
Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.
Hoping this all BS!! Please!!
1 Can RR win Championship at Arizona? Yes he can. The 2014 Season was proof it can done Regardless of who they facing. USC, UCLA, Utah, ASU, Colorado, Stanford, WSU, UW, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal can be beaten on any given day.
2 Recruiting, Ok for some reason this writer didn't mention that Arizona isn't a powerhouse like team that cant attract top prospect and the fact that Arizona base recruiting ground is in California, RR knows how to recruit and he know how to bring decent prospect to Arizona. Also He been using his East coast ties to attract prospect to Arizona. How many EC prospect has RR brought to Arizona? 6 in 2012, 1 in 2013, 2 in 2014, 8 in 2015, 3 in 2016. So I don't see that as a problem. Also it take time for him to bring in those 4 or 5 star guys to actually commit, And they did compare his 2014 class to stoop 2008 class where stoop has 4 4* prospect and RR 6 4* prospect. I guess he saying He need to bring in more.
3 More night game. I cant argue that one.
Like I said to CHI I want him to stay regardless.
Re: 3 reasons why Rich Rodriguez should leave the Arizona Wi
RR can also do it in the PAC 12 as well. He be facing quality team unlike ACC. That a give me situation.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:Winning a NC would be much easier in the ACC. You go undefeated in the ACC, which is much easier to do than the PAC 12, you are getting invited to the playoff. Also, last I checked it is the ACC that produces the second most NFL talent to the SEC. So he would have a rich talent bed in an easier conference.ramcat wrote:cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.
1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.
Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank
Do yawl agree with this.
Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.
I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.
Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.
Hoping this all BS!! Please!!
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Hansen is such a fucking idiot.Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...
http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank
Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?
A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:
1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”
2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”
3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.
4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.
5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.
6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.
7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.
Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:
1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.
1. He's never expressed any desire to go back home. None.
2. When has RR ever exclusively recruited one state?
3. So RR is afraid of competition?
4. Did Lute lose his touch with Arizona fans? FB is a tough act to follow... VT has little to offer.
5. And VT isn't going to be a rebuilding process...? C'mon Hansen.
6. They probably sell out more. If RR brings a consistent winner to Tucson, this program would be no different.
7. So he saves himself two hours of flight time to his beach house. Wow! Tucson winters more than make up for the discomfort of a hard Virginia winter.