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Ok if Muschamp is indeed SC HC by tomorrow, Everyone want to know what was whole of him being in South Carolina too begin with.ASUHATER! wrote:Who cares? You don't have to explain to people when you interview for a job
That's because I keep it a secret.ASUHATER! wrote:Who cares? You don't have to explain to people when you interview for a job
Nope. I couldn't care less why. If he's still our coach then I'll be happy but he doesn't owe me an explanation about anything. It's a business and all I care about is Arizona winning.cordera89 wrote:Ok if Muschamp is indeed SC HC by tomorrow, Everyone want to know what was whole of him being in South Carolina too begin with.ASUHATER! wrote:Who cares? You don't have to explain to people when you interview for a job
I know damn well you want to know why and everyone else wants to know too. RR is about to make an ass out of himself tomorrow.
You can feel it because Greg Byrne always has a plan. I doubt GB has ever been caught flatfooted.Chicat wrote:That's because I keep it a secret.ASUHATER! wrote:Who cares? You don't have to explain to people when you interview for a job
Right now there is dead silence from all camps. We really know nothing . . .
. . . except that football is Byrne's baby and we've invested way too much to let it fall in a hole now. Greg Byrne has a plan. I can feel it.
You may be right... as I have said before, if it is confirmed that much of this has gone down as reported - he will have burned some SERIOUS political capital in this process. And IF the ALLEGATION that he promised the team he would not interview until after the bowl game - but in fact did - then I think only the diehard sycophants will continue to stay in his corner through thick and thin.MrMeow wrote:There is a big difference between Sean Miller and Rich Rodriquez. John Miller raised his sons to be people of character and integrity. I'm not convinced RR got the same lessons. The cumulative effect of what's gone down so far leads me to believe RR is a fast talking, self serving slimeball. He impresses people verbally for the same reason good car salesmen do, and it appears there is just as much behind the words. "This is my last stop". Puleez! After all the support (and patience) he has received, and after turning out what would be generous to call a mediocre product, he's off to interview for another job (Fox reports it was a face to face, on site, interview)? It doesn't matter what he says in a press conference. It's all bullshit, anyway. Maybe Michigan was on to something. Someone buy him a Confederate flag and a can of bug spray and put his slimy ass on the next plane to Columbia.UAEebs86 wrote:After Sean Miller interviewed with and turned down Maryland (his previously admitted dream job), afterwards he said basically he was all in with Arizona and this is the place he wanted to be for a long time.
If it's not RR at ntUSC, he is going to have to have a to make similar type of statement at a press conference, or risk losing everyone (players, assistants, fans) going forward.
You do when you have 25 scholarship players coming in next year, along with the other 53 who committed to you, along with the 15 walk ons.ASUHATER! wrote:Who cares? You don't have to explain to people when you interview for a job
Sports is about passion. Teams are like armies, with fans sitting on the sidelines cheering their teams. Any perception the coach does not want to be here will have a negative effect on everyone, most importantly the players. RR has some fence-mending to do. If he does not, it will be only because he really wants out.Harvey Specter wrote:You may be right... as I have said before, if it is confirmed that much of this has gone down as reported - he will have burned some political capital in this process. And IF the ALLEGATION that he promised the team he would not interview until after the bowl game - but in fact did - then I think only the diehard sycophants will continue to stay in his corner through thick and thin.MrMeow wrote:There is a big difference between Sean Miller and Rich Rodriquez. John Miller raised his sons to be people of character and integrity. I'm not convinced RR got the same lessons. The cumulative effect of what's gone down so far leads me to believe RR is a fast talking, self serving slimeball. He impresses people verbally for the same reason good car salesmen do, and it appears there is just as much behind the words. "This is my last stop". Puleez! After all the support (and patience) he has received, and after turning out what would be generous to call a mediocre product, he's off to interview for another job (Fox reports it was a face to face, on site, interview)? It doesn't matter what he says in a press conference. It's all bullshit, anyway. Maybe Michigan was on to something. Someone buy him a Confederate flag and a can of bug spray and put his slimy ass on the next plane to Columbia.UAEebs86 wrote:After Sean Miller interviewed with and turned down Maryland (his previously admitted dream job), afterwards he said basically he was all in with Arizona and this is the place he wanted to be for a long time.
If it's not RR at ntUSC, he is going to have to have a to make similar type of statement at a press conference, or risk losing everyone (players, assistants, fans) going forward.
That said, if he is back next season - just win, baby. A good season next year and this will be forgiven & forgotten. The support he has from most of the fanbase will be earned by on-field performance - and (even legitimate) excuses for mediocrity will be much less readily acknowledged by the faithful.
It will be a business relationship in BOTH directions - and that is probably as it should be. We may not love you, and you don't love us - but will stay together as long as it is in BOTH of our best interests.
North Carolina doesn't even have a job opening!chiefzona wrote:He interviewed in North Carolina yesterday.
And what do you base this on?Salty wrote:I don't even think he actually interviewed.
Sean Miller interviewed in New Mexico (Santa Fe?) with Livengood...Salty wrote:North Carolina doesn't even have a job opening!chiefzona wrote:He interviewed in North Carolina yesterday.
Salty wrote:North Carolina doesn't even have a job opening!chiefzona wrote:He interviewed in North Carolina yesterday.
I have absolutely no facts to back up my claim, I just recognize how out of hand these coaching searches can become, and rumors become journalistic fact very quickly.Harvey Specter wrote:And what do you base this on?Salty wrote:I don't even think he actually interviewed.
I thought Feldman and RR were pals from CBS... And that Feldman was the one to break the RR to AZ news. He is now with Fox and has been covering the story for them - ahead of other news sources, it sure looks to me like Feldman's source could be RR.
Even Scheer, who has been going his best to spread tidbits that keep RR in the best possible light with the fanbase, confirmed yesterday late that RR had interviewed after it was reported elsewhere - after trying claim just hours earlier that he hadn't.
Maybe you're right, but the facts sure seem to suggest otherwise.
http://southcarolina.247sports.com/Bolt ... a-41748448Sources within the Arizona football program confirm that Wildcats head coach Rich Rodriguez interviewed for the vacant head coaching job at South Carolina this week.
According to those same sources, Rodriguez has "gone underground" during the past 12-24 hours, his staff has not been in contact with the head coach and has not been informed of any pending move.
Rodriguez is believed to be "in the mix" for the Gamecocks job, but further intel indicates that Auburn defensive coordinator Will Muschamp remains the "leading candidate" for the job at present. Sources feel like a deal between South Carolina and Muschamp could be reached in the next 24 hours.
IF this is indeed true, and Muschamp gets the nod, then RR's ego should take a pretty big hit - as he realizes where his current stock really is trading.chiefzona wrote:Football Scoop says it is between Muschamp and RR. Also thinks the announcement comes right after Clemson's game. Sounds fun.
AZarchery wrote:Louisville 2.0?
Right with you. All of it. I'm thinking RR is like the child growing into adult who never realizes how much his parents sacrificed for him. And never will. Just completely oblivious to how anyone might benefit him. "Going underground." And since you mentioned Todd G, how he's not getting baited into all these job offerings after two straight 10 win seasons beats me.Harvey Specter wrote:IF this is indeed true, and Muschamp gets the nod, then RR's ego should take a pretty big hit - as he realizes where his current stock really is trading.chiefzona wrote:Football Scoop says it is between Muschamp and RR. Also thinks the announcement comes right after Clemson's game. Sounds fun.
Maybe then he might ACTUALLY appreciate the faith Byrne showed in him and the support he has received at UA. Cuz at the moment it sure feels like MANY of the comments he made when he arrived here, and a few since, were complete gratuitous horseshit (which I have always wondered about). In which case he is worse than Graham, because at least with Turd, it's completely obvious he is a glad handing carpetbagger. Anyone with half a brain can see what he is... RR is much more polished and coy. (Anyone old enough to have seen "Broadcast News" is thinking of Albert Brooks' characterization of William Hurt's character right about now)
I am ALMOST to the point where I HOPE he gets the ntSC job... close, but not quite.
Salty wrote:AZarchery wrote:Louisville 2.0?
Having this situation every off season is just not worth it.
I would rather see Byrne can RR than have to endure this crap every year. This has significant impacts on recruiting, fan faith in the program, and our head coaches character.
In a relationship, when the trust is gone so is everything else, so you you are one step behind me. I hope he's gone ... anywhere would be fine.Harvey Specter wrote:IF this is indeed true, and Muschamp gets the nod, then RR's ego should take a pretty big hit - as he realizes where his current stock really is trading.chiefzona wrote:Football Scoop says it is between Muschamp and RR. Also thinks the announcement comes right after Clemson's game. Sounds fun.
Maybe then he might ACTUALLY appreciate the faith Byrne showed in him and the support he has received at UA. Cuz at the moment it sure feels like MANY of the comments he made when he arrived here, and a few since, were complete gratuitous horseshit (which I have always wondered about). In which case he is worse than Graham, because at least with Turd, it's completely obvious he is a glad handing carpetbagger. Anyone with half a brain can see what he is... RR is much more polished and coy. (Anyone old enough to have seen "Broadcast News" is thinking of Albert Brooks' characterization of William Hurt's character right about now)
I am ALMOST to the point where I HOPE he gets the ntSC job... close, but not quite.
OMG... Anyone in the "We are really lucky to have RR as our coach" camp really needs to go and visit that thread. 3 pages of comments so far, and I do not think I read a comment from ONE poster who wants Rodriguez. THEY ALL WANT MUSCHAMP UNEQUIVOCALLY AND WITHOUT ANY RESERVATION.
Kyle Collins anyone...?Harvey Specter wrote:Not that most will buy it - but IF they wait to comment until after Muschamp is hired - NO ONE will. (Well, a few will buy it... There always are)
How do you figure? he doesn't have to explain shit.cordera89 wrote:It already worst, If this is true that South Carolina Muschamp as their head coach, RR is going to have to explain his action on why he choose to interview at South Carolina.
This is what I learned and have been trumpeting since the Louisville saga: NO ONE WANTS RICHROD!!! For better or worse HE IS STUCK WITH US (!) unless he is willing to take a major step down to the MWC or AAC.Harvey Specter wrote:OMG... Anyone in the "We are really lucky to have RR as our coach" camp really needs to go and visit that thread. 3 pages of comments so far, and I do not think I read a comment from ONE poster who wants Rodriguez. THEY ALL WANT MUSCHAMP UNEQUIVOCALLY AND WITHOUT ANY RESERVATION.
Even if Muschamp fell through, I am pretty sure they'd prefer ANYONE not name Rich Rodriguez. I thought I was pretty realistic about where is reputation sits... But even I have been over-estimating it severely. He's toxic.
Nope... But it's going to further cement the inferiority complex that already pervades this fan base. Many of us think that the past 4 years (with 3 losing conference campaigns, but '4 straight bowl games'!) have been our "glory days". We are so lucky!azgreg wrote:How do you figure? he doesn't have to explain shit.cordera89 wrote:It already worst, If this is true that South Carolina Muschamp as their head coach, RR is going to have to explain his action on why he choose to interview at South Carolina.
Harvey Specter wrote: Many of us think that the past 4 years (with 3 losing conference campaigns, but '4 straight bowl games,' have been our "glory days".
Harvey Specter wrote: We'll be like the middle-aged housewife, waiting at home knowing our husband went to the strip club with a grand in his pocket hoping to score. When he arrives home later that night because there were no takers, we'll exhale, and tell our friends tomorrow "we're really glad he came home; he's a good man".
This is South Carolina we are talking about - not Ohio State.
He does not have to explain shit, but he better FUCKING win. And no more credit for the 3 gimmes which precede conference play every season.
See my previous post - "...building our divorce case..."
I saw that and literally laughed out loud. I like your analogy better... I hope we have enough chutzpah to consider filing.CatsbyAZ wrote:Harvey Specter wrote:azgreg wrote:cordera89 wrote: We'll be like the middle-aged housewife, waiting at home knowing our husband went to the strip club with a grand in his pocket hoping to score. When he arrives home later that night because there were no takers, we'll exhale, and tell our friends tomorrow "we're really glad he came home; he's a good man".
This is South Carolina we are talking about - not Ohio State.
He does not have to explain shit, but he better FUCKING win. And no more credit for the 3 gimmes which precede conference play every season.
Entertaining how marriage problems our the go-to analogies with all this SCar BS
So your saying that he doesn't have to explain to anyone of why you left Arizona in the dark by interviewing for the South Carolina HC job.azgreg wrote:How do you figure? he doesn't have to explain shit.cordera89 wrote:It already worst, If this is true that South Carolina Muschamp as their head coach, RR is going to have to explain his action on why he choose to interview at South Carolina.
Nope.cordera89 wrote:So your saying that he doesn't have to explain to anyone of why you left Arizona in the dark by interviewing for the South Carolina HC job.azgreg wrote:How do you figure? he doesn't have to explain shit.cordera89 wrote:It already worst, If this is true that South Carolina Muschamp as their head coach, RR is going to have to explain his action on why he choose to interview at South Carolina.
Das right,BMalo wrote:He doesn't need to explain. We get it. He either wants the job, wants to leave, or wants a raise for him or assistants. Any of those reasons are part of the business as an NCAA head coach and shouldn't be a surprise. Anything he were to say would be lip service anyway.
If he stays and we win next year, we will forgive him. Until next season's coaching search.
don't explain anything to your wife of ten years after storming home from the bars at 1am and slamming the door cause none of the drinks you bought all the frilly, dainty twenty-somethings at Auld Dubliners or Gentle Ben's amounted to anything more than a "like, dude, thanks."You are just one silly person.Harvey Specter wrote:OMG... Anyone in the "We are really lucky to have RR as our coach" camp really needs to go and visit that thread. 3 pages of comments so far, and I do not think I read a comment from ONE poster who wants Rodriguez. THEY ALL WANT MUSCHAMP UNEQUIVOCALLY AND WITHOUT ANY RESERVATION.
Even if Muschamp fell through, I am pretty sure they'd prefer ANYONE not name Rich Rodriguez. I thought I was pretty realistic about where is reputation sits... But even I have been over-estimating it severely. He's toxic.
Someone needs to send a link to that thread to Byrne... For the simple fact that he can break into hysterical laughter if RR tries to 'leverage' this situation into a raise. BETTER NOT HAPPEN. In fact I'd say we are overpaying relative to his best alternative... Maybe 10% more than what he might get at CBS? Use the savings to start a campaign for an indoor practice facility.
It sure looks to me like he wants this job and he is not going to get it... if he is as smart as he thought he was - he has a PR firm on retainer and they are drafting a statement (BEFORE RR is announced) that "Rich Rodriguez Is not going anywhere; he has no desire to coach anywhere other than the University of Arizona - which is where he plans to be next season and well into the future."
Not that most will buy it - but IF they wait to comment until after Muschamp is hired - NO ONE will. (Well, a few will buy it... There always are)
That's why you don't marry your business partner.CatsbyAZ wrote:Das right,BMalo wrote:He doesn't need to explain. We get it. He either wants the job, wants to leave, or wants a raise for him or assistants. Any of those reasons are part of the business as an NCAA head coach and shouldn't be a surprise. Anything he were to say would be lip service anyway.
If he stays and we win next year, we will forgive him. Until next season's coaching search.
See how that goes the next morning around the coffee maker.
If that is his strategy, he may want to re-think it in the future. Because if Byrne monitors fan base reaction to his name being floated at ANY school, his bargaining power is taking a serious hit. Better to pretend that you are in demand than to confirm you aren't.BMalo wrote:He doesn't need to explain. We get it. He either wants the job, wants to leave, or wants a raise for him or assistants. Any of those reasons are part of the business as an NCAA head coach and shouldn't be a surprise. Anything he were to say would be lip service anyway.
If he stays and we win next year, we will forgive him. Until next season's coaching search.
Everyone is sitting around here fretting over the possibility of losing a guy who wants to go someplace where the constituents want nothing to do with him. And a bunch of pollyannas will be on here tomorrow telling us how lucky we are we did not lose him... And how the fans better support the team next season so this does not happen again.OSUCat wrote:You are just one silly person.Harvey Specter wrote:OMG... Anyone in the "We are really lucky to have RR as our coach" camp really needs to go and visit that thread. 3 pages of comments so far, and I do not think I read a comment from ONE poster who wants Rodriguez. THEY ALL WANT MUSCHAMP UNEQUIVOCALLY AND WITHOUT ANY RESERVATION.
Even if Muschamp fell through, I am pretty sure they'd prefer ANYONE not name Rich Rodriguez. I thought I was pretty realistic about where is reputation sits... But even I have been over-estimating it severely. He's toxic.
Someone needs to send a link to that thread to Byrne... For the simple fact that he can break into hysterical laughter if RR tries to 'leverage' this situation into a raise. BETTER NOT HAPPEN. In fact I'd say we are overpaying relative to his best alternative... Maybe 10% more than what he might get at CBS? Use the savings to start a campaign for an indoor practice facility.
It sure looks to me like he wants this job and he is not going to get it... if he is as smart as he thought he was - he has a PR firm on retainer and they are drafting a statement (BEFORE RR is announced) that "Rich Rodriguez Is not going anywhere; he has no desire to coach anywhere other than the University of Arizona - which is where he plans to be next season and well into the future."
Not that most will buy it - but IF they wait to comment until after Muschamp is hired - NO ONE will. (Well, a few will buy it... There always are)
And Gamecock fans are happier right now than I am.84Cat wrote:
This just keeps rolling!UAEebs86 wrote:Unbelievable how many media people fell for that fake account.
