Fired Casteel

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:00 pm

San Diego St's recruiting is not that great either, so not sure how good a recruiter he is.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:13 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:San Diego St's recruiting is not that great either, so not sure how good a recruiter he is.

Then they are doing a better job with their crappy recruiting.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:23 pm

Merkin wrote:Not really a stellar resume but at least he has real Div I DC experience unlike Cecil and Hunley. Not a home run hire, but not a bad choice. But still, probably on the downhill side of his coaching career.

Coaching career[edit]
Western Oregon State College[edit]
Lewis was as assistant coach for the Western Oregon Wolves from 1989 to 1990.[5]

Oregon State University[edit]
Lewis served as an assistant coach for the Oregon State Beavers working with linebackers and special teams from 1991 to 1996.[5]

University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign[edit]
Lewis was defensive line coach for the Illinois Fighting Illini from 1997 to 2000 before serving as linebackers coach from 2001 to 2002.[5]

University of New Mexico[edit]
Lewis was defensive coordinator of the New Mexico Lobos from 2003 to 2007 while also serving stints as defensive line and linebacker coach.[5]

University of Texas at El Paso[edit]
Lewis served as defensive coordinator of the UTEP Miners from 2008 to 2009.[5]

Hartford Colonials[edit]
Lewis was defensive coordinator of the Hartford Colonials of the United Football League in 2010.[5]

San Diego State University[edit]
Lewis has served as defensive line coach of the San Diego State Aztecs since 2011.[5][6]

Looks like a 'safely mediocre' hire. He has been a DC for a decade at multiple mid-major stops, and I do not recall any of them being memorable. If they were, he would have had a shot at a Power 5 program before now. Of course not many searches target guys from Tucson, willing to recruit 100 miles away, who will coach the 3-3-5.

I'd rather take our chances with Cecil if he is interested: higher risk, but MUCH higher reward.

If it ends up being Lewis because we are married to the 3-3-5, then I hope he can turn things around right away - because it's 'gotta win immediately' time.

BMalo · Post by **BMalo** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:32 pm

Lewis has had SDSU's defense ranked in the top 40 the past 3 years, including in the top 5 this past year.

Gave up 30+ points to 3 opponents consecutively this past year then dominated the MWC. I would guess the success of the 3-3-5 is from SDSU's opponents the past few years in conference and their talent level.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:33 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:It must be nice being hater's girlfriend/wife (assuming he has one). She sleeps around, but comes back home and it is a sign that she is even more committed to him than before.
In this analogy, if we are paying RichRod, is it prostitution? If it is prostitution, can you really get angry that you're not her only one?
You guys have it backwards... RR is the one getting paid here.

He is more like the stripper that is really good at his job, and Hater is the 30-ish married guy who got hitched right out of college, and has never been to a gentlemen's club before. After emptying his wallet and a quick trip to the cash machine, he is momentarily disappointed to find his 'girl' dancing for another patron when he returns.

But when she come back over and hits him with the obligatory "I could not wait for you to come back... Thanks for saving me from that guy. I really did not like him, but we have to dance for anyone who wants one if we are not already busy".

He leaves the club at the end of the night with a smile and the satisfaction of believing "she really digs me!"

See, actually, I see it as the opposite. I see the fans upset by RR interviewing elsewhere as the ones who think that she actually isn't in it for the money. This isn't his alma mater, it's a job. Same as all our jobs, you might want to leave if a better opportunity comes along.

He's always been committed to the extent this is his best option, and I think it's naieve to expect otherwise. Interviewing elsewhere didn't change that.

We can agree to disagree.

I never believed him the day we were formally introduced and told me "I want to be with you FOREVER, Tucson and UA program... If you'll have me.

(And no, Not all coaches do that. Graham did, a few times)

I thought was bullshitting then, and I know he was bullshitting now. Doesn't mean it did not still annoy me when my suspicions were confirmed. You want to keep coming over for money? Fine with me, but don't ask me to cuddle when we are done and act like your feelings are hurt when I show you the door.

And I am damn sure not the one interpreting the Casteel dismissal as a signal that RR is suddenly devoted to the long-term prospects of the program above loyalty to assistants and his own security / future prospects.

I am cool with that, seriously. I just don't want people trying to spin it that the lovin' we are paying for is anything emotional.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:34 pm

Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:37 pm

azgreg wrote:Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.

So did Casteel... In the Big East.

PS - What stats are those? Everything I saw in 2014 had us outside the Top 100 (in YPG, I think)

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:40 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
azgreg wrote:Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.
So did Casteel... In the Big East.

PS - What stats are those? Everything I saw in 2014 had us outside the Top 100 (in YPG, I think)

I got them from the archives at NCAA.com

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:51 pm

UA was 114th in total defense the past season, about 108th the season before I think.

Not sure what a valid benchmark is, but most I have seen most list total defense.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:19 pm

azgreg wrote:Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.

Strength of Schedule:

Year AZ SDSU

2012 25 80
2013 27 86
2014 20 88
2015 56 88

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:21 pm

Merkin wrote:UA was 114th in total defense the past season, about 108th the season before I think.

Not sure what a valid benchmark is, but most I have seen most list total defense.

We'll always do relatively poorly in total D or YPG because the philosophy is to go fast and create a lot of possessions. That gives the opponent a lot of chances to do things. If we could improve in yards per play and create a few to's, that would be nice for next year.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:26 pm

Red zone defense has to improve. The bending broke last season.

3rd and long not being an automatic first down for the opposing team ending would be a very nice improvement.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:36 pm

Why are we crediting the DL coach for the performance of the D? If SD St is so good at D, shouldn't we go after their DC not a position coach?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:57 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:Why are we crediting the DL coach for the performance of the D? If SD St is so good at D, shouldn't we go after their DC not a position coach?

Lewis is not even the DC?

I just looked it up... he's not. Why is he being credited with what Rocky Long's defense accomplished. If we like what he can do, why not hire Long?

If RR hires Lewis as DC, then it will be him bringing in a guy he can control. Not at all excited about that.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:08 pm

Good lord, so we are going to bring in a guy who is not even a DC. He's a DL coach at a low level school and we're still going to run the 3-3-5.

Completely unimpressed if this is actually going to happen. All this is, is more of the same with someone with even less pedigree than Casteel. Well at-least we have the film guy to hang our hat on!

With a $670,000 dollar pay package to work with RR should be making something reasonably close to a home run hire. But I'm not seeing it.

But don't mind me, because I'm just a chicken little.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:12 pm

Lewis has been locked in with Long for 10 years, serving as DC when Long was head coach, which was 4 years, I believe. So would think he has pretty equal ability to implement the defense they have utilized.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:19 pm

ramcat wrote:Lewis has been locked in with Long for 10 years, serving as DC when Long was head coach, which was 4 years, I believe. So would think he has pretty equal ability to implement the defense they have utilized.

The point is if GB is going to offer the same cash as Casteel was getting, that allows RR to make a superb hire and change to a high quality scheme that more kids love to play in and prep them for the NFL which they all aspire to.

You don't need to gamble. But since its clear that RR will go to his freaking grave running the 3-3-5, his talent pool is very very small.

So more of the same.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:30 pm

I understand. It definitely appears that finding someone with exp with 3-3-5 is being strongly considered. Maybe in part due to existing personnel and D recruits who were sold, to some degree on it and their fit.
Think that Lewis' menton of being a top three candidate, doesn't indicate who the others are who might be and if they are 3-3-5 proponents. Hopefully, other candidates are being looked at, where the pool is much wider!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:34 pm

dmjcat wrote:
azgreg wrote:Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.

Strength of Schedule:

Year AZ SDSU

2012 25 80
2013 27 86
2014 20 88
2015 56 88

I know. That's why it's advisable for you to re-read the lst line of my post.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:10 pm

ramcat wrote:Lewis has been locked in with Long for 10 years, serving as DC when Long was head coach, which was 4 years, I believe. So would think he has pretty equal ability to implement the defense they have utilized.

Fair point, but if he was that good, I would think he would have gotten a DC stint someplace else already, as opposed to moving back to DL coach under Long.

That hire would not win the press conference, for a few reasons.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:20 pm

Perhaps. Maybe loyalty or family. Agree that the hire would be underwhelming. Do think the results as DC were solid and being that he's Ben Longs DC, wouldn't doubt that he probably assumes some of Longs dutys when needed. Again, was mentioned among three. Perhaps the other two are higher regarded with other def philosophy's. Best 3-3-5 candidate found thus far?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:22 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
ramcat wrote:Lewis has been locked in with Long for 10 years, serving as DC when Long was head coach, which was 4 years, I believe. So would think he has pretty equal ability to implement the defense they have utilized.
Fair point, but if he was that good, I would think he would have gotten a DC stint someplace else already, as opposed to moving back to DL coach under Long.

That hire would not win the press conference, for a few reasons.

The Cardinal's Bruce Arians says hi.

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:32 pm

Regardless of schemes, I'd be happy hiring a coach who simply emphasizes how to tackle the opposing ball carrier That's what defense is.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:47 pm

azgreg wrote:Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.

Why don't you put San Diego State in the Pac 12 conference and see if they can replicate that against quality team instead of less.
Those ranking doesn't really prove how good their 335 is to compared to our 335.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:57 pm

By the way, there is a good interview with Lewis as he moved to UTEP. Definitely, distinguishes himself from Long. Some subtle and some not so subtle.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:58 pm

Sorry, but couldn't share link from my phone!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:12 pm

cordera89 wrote:
azgreg wrote:Arizona:
Recruiting ranking/Defensive Rank

2015: 41st/114th
2014: 28th/62nd
2013: 37th/ 103rd
2012: 46th/118th

San Diego St.
Recruiting Ranking/Defensive Rank
2015: 75th/5th
2014: 73rd/53rd
2013: 79th/ 16th
2012: 98th/39th

Used Rivals for rankings.

Now I know that the level of competition is much different, but I think they did much more with less.
Why don't you put San Diego State in the Pac 12 conference and see if they can replicate that against quality team instead of less.
Those ranking doesn't really prove how good their 335 is to compared to our 335.

I got the chance to watch San Diego St a number of times this year and their defense is better, They tackle better and seemed to be in position to make plays more often then we were. We also have a common opponent. We held Nevada to 328 yards while they held them to 263 yards. Their defense with their talent level passed the eye test. Does that translate to success at the P5 level? I don't know. All the great coaches started somewhere. I'd just as well give this guy a shot as any other guy.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:31 pm

The ninja is conducting this coaching search.

Any rumors being produced at this point are merely speculation.

There's no chance Byrne will let candidates be known to the public, and there's no chance anyone but him will be the first to announce the new hire.

Let's be real here folks!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:32 pm

Salty wrote:The ninja is conducting this coaching search.

Any rumors being produced at this point are merely speculation.

There's no chance Byrne will let candidates be known to the public, and there's no chance anyone but him will be the first to announce the new hire.

Let's be real here folks!

Oh, ok...

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:38 pm

Salty wrote:The ninja is conducting this coaching search.

Any rumors being produced at this point are merely speculation.

There's no chance Byrne will let candidates be known to the public, and there's no chance anyone but him will be the first to announce the new hire.

Let's be real here folks!

Your kidding right. GB is hiring the DC. Reality to Salty, is anyone home

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:39 pm

Pass the pipe Salty.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:40 pm

It's reality, folks. Watch and learn!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:43 pm

Salty wrote:It's reality, folks. Watch and learn!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:49 pm

Greg Byrne is completely out of the DC search and had nothing to do with Casteel's decision. Zero.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:49 pm

azgreg wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
ramcat wrote:Lewis has been locked in with Long for 10 years, serving as DC when Long was head coach, which was 4 years, I believe. So would think he has pretty equal ability to implement the defense they have utilized.
Fair point, but if he was that good, I would think he would have gotten a DC stint someplace else already, as opposed to moving back to DL coach under Long.

That hire would not win the press conference, for a few reasons.
The Cardinal's Bruce Arians says hi.

Tell Bruce Hi back. Also that I was really impressed when he won NFL COY filling the interim role for Pagano... Before getting the head job with the Cardinals.

Not sure how I missed that; as a successful NFL coordinator & interim HC, he seems just like Osia Lewis, the former DC at UNM & UTEP who now coaches the DL at SDSU.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:55 pm

chiefzona wrote:Greg Byrne is completely out of the DC search and had nothing to do with Casteel's decision. Zero.

I don't believe he had zero to do with RR's decision to fire Casteel.

I am not saying I think he mandated it... but I think at their post-season fireside chat, Byrne suggested that moving forward with the staff as it has existed would put added pressure on expectations for an immediate turnaround.

And RR decided what he had to do. He wants to keep his job here until he can have enough success to warrant consideration from a bigger program.

He ever gets fired from UA, and his shot at a good ACC/SEC job is pretty much done. He'd probably have to coach outside the Big 5, and at his age - I doubt he'd want to start over at that level.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:56 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Pass the pipe Salty.

That's a silly comment.

You don't use a pipe to drop acid.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:04 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Greg Byrne is completely out of the DC search and had nothing to do with Casteel's decision. Zero.
I don't believe he had zero to do with RR's decision to fire Casteel.

I am not saying I think he mandated it... but I think at their post-season fireside chat, Byrne suggested that moving forward with the staff as it has existed would put added pressure on expectations for an immediate turnaround.

And RR decided what he had to do. He wants to keep his job here until he can have enough success to warrant consideration for a different role.

Not at all. Look at the sequence of events. A post season fireside chat would have had Casteel packing his bags right after the ASU game. Byrne would have not waited this long when there's less than a month before spring practice and in the most important recruiting time. I do not think Casteel was ever fired. He stepped down and forced RRs hand and I'll bet some of it was about an argument over personnel and staff. RR and Byrne would have pulled the trigger after the ASU game. Always look at sequence of events and timing. In no way does it benefit the team right now that Rich Rod is scrambling for a DC. Then that DC has to come in and scramble to hire his staff, get hot to close the door on recruiting, and then be at the field for spring practice to implement his scheme and coaching style. No way any smart football person does that. Byrne and Rich Rod are not stupid. Their hand was forced.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:08 pm

Then while would casteel step down now if he assured a fat salary and never having to leave the state and there is no pressure to go? It doesn't make sense.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:12 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Greg Byrne is completely out of the DC search and had nothing to do with Casteel's decision. Zero.
I don't believe he had zero to do with RR's decision to fire Casteel.

I am not saying I think he mandated it... but I think at their post-season fireside chat, Byrne suggested that moving forward with the staff as it has existed would put added pressure on expectations for an immediate turnaround.

And RR decided what he had to do. He wants to keep his job here until he can have enough success to warrant consideration for a different role.

Not at all. Look at the sequence of events. A post season fireside chat would have had Casteel packing his bags right after the ASU game. Byrne would have not waited this long when there's less than a month before spring practice and in the most important recruiting time. I do not think Casteel was ever fired. He stepped down and forced RRs hand and I'll bet some of it was about an argument over personnel and staff. RR and Byrne would have pulled the trigger after the ASU game. Always look at sequence of events and timing. In no way does it benefit the team right now that Rich Rod is scrambling for a DC. Then that DC has to come in and scramble to hire his staff, get hot to close the door on recruiting, and then be at the field for spring practice to implement his scheme and coaching style. No way any smart football person does that. Byrne and Rich Rod are not stupid. Their hand was forced.

Your comment above assumes that the new DC is going to be allowed to hire his own staff and implement his own scheme. I hope that is the case... but I am not convinced yet.

And I don't believe that Casteel would have been fired before the bowl game. By your reasoning, are you saying Helfrich's hand was forced at UO, too? Pellum was fired the exact same day.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:22 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Greg Byrne is completely out of the DC search and had nothing to do with Casteel's decision. Zero.
I don't believe he had zero to do with RR's decision to fire Casteel.

I am not saying I think he mandated it... but I think at their post-season fireside chat, Byrne suggested that moving forward with the staff as it has existed would put added pressure on expectations for an immediate turnaround.

And RR decided what he had to do. He wants to keep his job here until he can have enough success to warrant consideration for a different role.

Not at all. Look at the sequence of events. A post season fireside chat would have had Casteel packing his bags right after the ASU game. Byrne would have not waited this long when there's less than a month before spring practice and in the most important recruiting time. I do not think Casteel was ever fired. He stepped down and forced RRs hand and I'll bet some of it was about an argument over personnel and staff. RR and Byrne would have pulled the trigger after the ASU game. Always look at sequence of events and timing. In no way does it benefit the team right now that Rich Rod is scrambling for a DC. Then that DC has to come in and scramble to hire his staff, get hot to close the door on recruiting, and then be at the field for spring practice to implement his scheme and coaching style. No way any smart football person does that. Byrne and Rich Rod are not stupid. Their hand was forced.
Your comment above assumes that the new DC is going to be allowed to hire his own staff and implement his own scheme. I hope that is the case... but I am not convinced yet.

And I don't believe that Casteel would have been fired before the bowl game. By your reasoning, are you saying Helfrich's hand was forced at UO, too? Pellum was fired the exact same day.

I am completely convinced that the new DC will have his hires. You think if Byrne was calling the shots that Casteel wouldn't be fired before the bowl game? Also, the bowl game was on the 19th. 15 days later and close to a huge recruiting slot with a lot riding on RRs success given the season that he or Byrne would wait that long? No way.

Helfrich is not in the same situation as the Arizona football team. They don't have an early spring and are doing fine in recruiting. Recruits don't come to Oregon because of the HC or DC. The opposite is with Arizona. Helfrich can fart in a recruits house and he'll commit. Rich Rod has to walk through a mine field for them. No way that smart football guys shoot themselves in the foot when they are already under the gun.

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:56 pm

Lot of idle chatter about retaining the 3-3-5 and selecting from the vanishing pool of dc's who run it. Seems absurd really, like trying to find the last horse buggy maker when everyone else has already moved on to automobiles. Surely RichRod isn't THAT stupid, to go down in flames on a defensive scheme that worked for a 3 year stretch 18 years ago in a mid-major conference and hasn't worked anywhere since and already got him fired at one place for it.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:18 pm

I've also heard it is the 4-2-5 that RR is looking for. If it is the 3-3-5, I would think it is Osiah Lewis.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:43 pm

TheGreatCatsby wrote:Lot of idle chatter about retaining the 3-3-5 and selecting from the vanishing pool of dc's who run it. Seems absurd really, like trying to find the last horse buggy maker when everyone else has already moved on to automobiles. Surely RichRod isn't THAT stupid, to go down in flames on a defensive scheme that worked for a 3 year stretch 18 years ago in a mid-major conference and hasn't worked anywhere since and already got him fired at one place for it.

Yes he is, If RR deciding on keeping the 335 in the case it haven't produce jack @@@, Then he going to do like he did at Michigan, Hired a DC that run 3-4 or 4-3 and tell them to implement some form of 335 element into the system, Then every DC he goes after are just going to say( No thank I'm fine where I'm at). If he really want to make change then he need to man the hell up and fine a DC that he can be comfortable with. I get the feeling he about to screw this golden opportunity to revamp our defense.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:45 pm

chiefzona wrote:I've also heard it is the 4-2-5 that RR is looking for. If it is the 3-3-5, I would think it is Osiah Lewis.

The 4-2-5 isn't going to work regardless if he manage to steal TCU DC from Gary Patterson.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:33 am

chiefzona wrote:Greg Byrne is completely out of the DC search and had nothing to do with Casteel's decision. Zero.

That's a interesting take. Another one that has yet to be mentioned, perhaps GB found his guy while Rich was testing the waters? This could be a highly touted D Coordinator that either contacted us or was a guy GB called himself as a candidate if Rich left. This is where that HC in waiting tag would make sense. I would position it as we don't know how long Rich will be here, but we most certainly need your help now.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:39 am

I think if we had a guy, he'd be hired by now (as long as there are no public employee waiting period issues like they have to have the job publicly posted for a certain amount of time). We need the new DC to fill out his staff and hit the recruiting trail ASAP.

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:41 am

Chicat wrote:I think if we had a guy, he'd be hired by now (as long as there are no public employee waiting period issues like they have to have the job publicly posted for a certain amount of time). We need the new DC to fill out his staff and hit the recruiting trail ASAP.

I heard that job had to be posted for ten days so if that's true, don't expect any announcements until the middle of next week.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:50 am

tgrumpy2 wrote:
Chicat wrote:I think if we had a guy, he'd be hired by now (as long as there are no public employee waiting period issues like they have to have the job publicly posted for a certain amount of time). We need the new DC to fill out his staff and hit the recruiting trail ASAP.

I heard that job had to be posted for ten days so if that's true, don't expect any announcements until the middle of next week.

That is very true about state jobs, and a very good point.

https://uacareers.com/postings/search?u ... mit=Search" target="_blank

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:57 am

Yeah, but I feel like the name would be out there. Like when we hired the last assistant for the basketball team. From what I've seen on premium, no one is a done deal as of yet . . . which is worrisome.

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