Until 97 says it ain't happening, I'll remain hopeful.Spaceman Spiff wrote:I'm not getting hopes up until someone in the know says there's a real chance.PennZona20 wrote:Still no chance right guys???
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This would be some great news for a program that sorely could use a positive development.Beachcat97 wrote:Wow. That would be some much-needed good news. When is he deciding?
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http://247sports.com/Bolt/Simmons-annou ... y-42794332" target="_blank
Think it's safe to say he's a long shot for AZ.
Think it's safe to say he's a long shot for AZ.
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He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
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Right. Oh well. JJ is the bigger fish anyway.Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
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Is there a process where he will visit before his decision comes, which I assume will be later in the spring?Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
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He's deciding on Saturday. See above link.carolinacat wrote:Is there a process where he will visit before his decision comes, which I assume will be later in the spring?Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
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Interesting ............."Simmons took official visits three weeks in a row late in the summer to Kentucky (8/28), UNLV (9/4), and Ohio State (9/11). He has not taken an official visit to Arizona, but Sean Miller has continued to recruit him hard throughout the process"Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
and the dude throws us in a few days before he announces he'll announce?
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Without any knowledge of his recruitment, I bet he goes to Kentucky. How we ended up in the top 3 l, I don't know. Who knows, maybe he will surprise everyone and reach for the Kentucky hat, then put it back down and grab a UofA one.
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This would be nice. First I heard about Alkins, but don't follow recruiting all that closely.
9th ranked SG http://sports.yahoo.com/fau/basketball/ ... ins-149511" target="_blank with a very nice list of offers.
9th ranked SG http://sports.yahoo.com/fau/basketball/ ... ins-149511" target="_blank with a very nice list of offers.
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Well, we definitely aren't getting either now.Merkin wrote:This would be nice. First I heard about Alkins, but don't follow recruiting all that closely.
9th ranked SG http://sports.yahoo.com/fau/basketball/ ... ins-149511" target="_blank with a very nice list of offers.
If you give me JJ, I'm good. Unless Trier leaves, if JJ comes here, we have very little pt to go around, and none of it is on the wing.
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These others looks nice, but everyone knows it's all about JJ. It's all about this:
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Beachcat97 wrote:My God Alkins is a beast!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ngQ0kG-sI" target="_blank
Nice hops AND handles!
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Has Zagoria ever got a single thing right before? Dude's such a jokeMerkin wrote:This would be nice. First I heard about Alkins, but don't follow recruiting all that closely.
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I don't see him as a tremendously explosive athlete. He is physically strong and can handle. Basically a shorter Lance Stephenson is how I see him.Merkin wrote:Nice hops AND handles!Beachcat97 wrote:My God Alkins is a beast!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ngQ0kG-sI" target="_blank
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Kentucky already has Fox, so the smart money would be on Ohio St.WildcatStunner wrote:Without any knowledge of his recruitment, I bet he goes to Kentucky. How we ended up in the top 3 l, I don't know. Who knows, maybe he will surprise everyone and reach for the Kentucky hat, then put it back down and grab a UofA one.
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Alkins could be insurance for the possibility of Trier leaving.
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How do you know we aren't getting either now? Did Alkins already commit?Spaceman Spiff wrote:Well, we definitely aren't getting either now.Merkin wrote:This would be nice. First I heard about Alkins, but don't follow recruiting all that closely.
9th ranked SG http://sports.yahoo.com/fau/basketball/ ... ins-149511" target="_blank with a very nice list of offers.
If you give me JJ, I'm good. Unless Trier leaves, if JJ comes here, we have very little pt to go around, and none of it is on the wing.
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Generally, picking the opposite of Zagoria is a solid strategy.az91 wrote:How do you know we aren't getting either now? Did Alkins already commit?Spaceman Spiff wrote:Well, we definitely aren't getting either now.Merkin wrote:This would be nice. First I heard about Alkins, but don't follow recruiting all that closely.
9th ranked SG http://sports.yahoo.com/fau/basketball/ ... ins-149511" target="_blank with a very nice list of offers.
If you give me JJ, I'm good. Unless Trier leaves, if JJ comes here, we have very little pt to go around, and none of it is on the wing.
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97 is more credible than Zag, as far as AZ is concerned. So if 97 hasn't chimed in on this Alkins/Simmons rumor, my bet is we're not getting either.
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A bit confusing to say the least. Why does the kid even bother to add us to his list at the last moment?? Why is Miller spending time recruiting a kid who won't even visit..........is our recruiting getting that desperate?EOCT wrote:Interesting ............."Simmons took official visits three weeks in a row late in the summer to Kentucky (8/28), UNLV (9/4), and Ohio State (9/11). He has not taken an official visit to Arizona, but Sean Miller has continued to recruit him hard throughout the process"Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
and the dude throws us in a few days before he announces he'll announce?
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Maybe he's shooting the kid text messages. It's still "recruiting him" but it isn't, in all reality, spending lots of timedmjcat wrote:A bit confusing to say the least. Why does the kid even bother to add us to his list at the last moment?? Why is Miller spending time recruiting a kid who won't even visit..........is our recruiting getting that desperate?EOCT wrote:Interesting ............."Simmons took official visits three weeks in a row late in the summer to Kentucky (8/28), UNLV (9/4), and Ohio State (9/11). He has not taken an official visit to Arizona, but Sean Miller has continued to recruit him hard throughout the process"Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
and the dude throws us in a few days before he announces he'll announce?
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2016 is not a priority class in terms of numbers. If we can land 2 quality recruits, it probably fits better than 4.dmjcat wrote:A bit confusing to say the least. Why does the kid even bother to add us to his list at the last moment?? Why is Miller spending time recruiting a kid who won't even visit..........is our recruiting getting that desperate?EOCT wrote:Interesting ............."Simmons took official visits three weeks in a row late in the summer to Kentucky (8/28), UNLV (9/4), and Ohio State (9/11). He has not taken an official visit to Arizona, but Sean Miller has continued to recruit him hard throughout the process"Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
and the dude throws us in a few days before he announces he'll announce?
Why not take an outside shot at a really talented kid that you probably don't need and probably won't get? If Trier returns, we lose Zeus, RA, MT and York, but have to add Smith into the equation. A 3 man class keeps us at 11 expected contributors. Pitts has the uncertain future, but even if he does not play and we score a 2 man class, we go 9 deep of people who are reasonably expected to play a minimum of 10 mpg.
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dcZONAfan wrote:Maybe he's shooting the kid text messages. It's still "recruiting him" but it isn't, in all reality, spending lots of timedmjcat wrote:A bit confusing to say the least. Why does the kid even bother to add us to his list at the last moment?? Why is Miller spending time recruiting a kid who won't even visit..........is our recruiting getting that desperate?EOCT wrote:Interesting ............."Simmons took official visits three weeks in a row late in the summer to Kentucky (8/28), UNLV (9/4), and Ohio State (9/11). He has not taken an official visit to Arizona, but Sean Miller has continued to recruit him hard throughout the process"Chicat wrote:He hasn't visited Arizona. If he were to pick us, that would be a surprise to just about everyone.
and the dude throws us in a few days before he announces he'll announce?
RichRod likes to offer recruits he has no chance of getting. That way he has an answer for "why is your recruiting so poor?" "Well, we did offer all these 5 star players..."
Don't think Miller would do that though. If there's a chance...
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The Simmons/Alkins situation is intriguing, but come on, JJ is the centerpiece. He's the difference between a top 5 ranking and a top 25 ranking next year. He also makes us the Pac favorite, even with UCLA's stellar class coming in.Spaceman Spiff wrote: 2016 is not a priority class in terms of numbers. If we can land 2 quality recruits, it probably fits better than 4.
Why not take an outside shot at a really talented kid that you probably don't need and probably won't get? If Trier returns, we lose Zeus, RA, MT and York, but have to add Smith into the equation. A 3 man class keeps us at 11 expected contributors. Pitts has the uncertain future, but even if he does not play and we score a 2 man class, we go 9 deep of people who are reasonably expected to play a minimum of 10 mpg.
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Everything about this is just weird
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Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
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Actually, a bunch of people on that site are calling Simmons to AZ this week. Where there's smoke there's fire?3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
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I honestly have no idea what would happen if Simmons really did pick us. Kind of think it could turn into a Dorsey situation. Although I think we have more interest in him than we did Dorsey.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
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Kobi Simmons's Crystal Ball Predictions
Ohio State 43%
Arizona 30%
Kentucky 26%
Poll Results:
Arizona the wildcard
Kentucky already has two guards committed for 2016, but Arizona doesn't have any guards committed. The addition of Arizona could complicate things for Ohio State.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... lle_1.html" target="_blank
Ohio State 43%
Arizona 30%
Kentucky 26%
Poll Results:
Arizona the wildcard
Kentucky already has two guards committed for 2016, but Arizona doesn't have any guards committed. The addition of Arizona could complicate things for Ohio State.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... lle_1.html" target="_blank
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It's really starting to feel like somebody's getting trolled.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
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Main Event wrote:Everything about this is just weird
Agree, Main, in the logical context of Kobi(See, I'm already calling Kobi by his first name!) not having visited(as far a we know.....shhh...) our campus.
But Coach is a very, very smart guy. And it's said he's been following Kobi "hard through the entire process". Would he waste his time if Kobi was out of the question?
You never know. Shhh.....
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How am I getting trolled?Longhorned wrote:It's really starting to feel like somebody's getting trolled.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
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Who knows. This is weird. The only thing that would seem to have changed for us in roster composition is Pitts (maybe).Chicat wrote:I honestly have no idea what would happen if Simmons really did pick us. Kind of think it could turn into a Dorsey situation. Although I think we have more interest in him than we did Dorsey.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
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That's how jaylen brown ended up at Cal! Sometimes it's better to be the team joint the party late! I think we will not land Simmons but I think miller is pushing for him because he has seen PJCs limit.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Who knows. This is weird. The only thing that would seem to have changed for us in roster composition is Pitts (maybe).Chicat wrote:I honestly have no idea what would happen if Simmons really did pick us. Kind of think it could turn into a Dorsey situation. Although I think we have more interest in him than we did Dorsey.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
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Yeah but Simmons is not a prototypical PG.3goggles wrote:That's how jaylen brown ended up at Cal! Sometimes it's better to be the team joint the party late! I think we will not land Simmons but I think miller is pushing for him because he has seen PJCs limit.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Who knows. This is weird. The only thing that would seem to have changed for us in roster composition is Pitts (maybe).Chicat wrote:I honestly have no idea what would happen if Simmons really did pick us. Kind of think it could turn into a Dorsey situation. Although I think we have more interest in him than we did Dorsey.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
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We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
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Implying what exactly?ChooChooCat wrote:We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
I doubt he comes here, so the point is moot... but not sure where you are going with that comment.
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I am no Simmons expert, but not visiting...well, a campus visit is highly overrated. Things like a relationship with a coach aren't laid aside because of what the student union looks like. What is the real use in a visit? Meet coeds, see a football game, etc.ChooChooCat wrote:We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
The important stuff for a basketball recruit isn't something you see on a campus visit.
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As in he's just coming here solely to focus on his draft stock. All players should have that be part of their focus naturally, but players focused solely on that can be a cancer or don't give a crap about winning (see any player that has committed to UNLV the past 5 years or so). I genuinely have no idea what to think of this kid.Harvey Specter wrote:Implying what exactly?ChooChooCat wrote:We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
I doubt he comes here, so the point is moot... but not sure where you are going with that comment.
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That's why I mentioned Pitts first. Having a wing spot open plus the potential for a pg role in combo would be the sort of role that I could see appealing for Simmons. If Pitts and Trier are back, we are really loaded at the spots Simmons projects to.Chicat wrote:Yeah but Simmons is not a prototypical PG.3goggles wrote:That's how jaylen brown ended up at Cal! Sometimes it's better to be the team joint the party late! I think we will not land Simmons but I think miller is pushing for him because he has seen PJCs limit.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Who knows. This is weird. The only thing that would seem to have changed for us in roster composition is Pitts (maybe).Chicat wrote:I honestly have no idea what would happen if Simmons really did pick us. Kind of think it could turn into a Dorsey situation. Although I think we have more interest in him than we did Dorsey.3goggles wrote:Damn it's getting interesting Myers is calling Simmons to Arizona!
http://247sports.com/Player/Kobi-Simmons-28445
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
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Name the last kid not from this region of the country to commit to Arizona before ever entering the state of Arizona let alone never being on campus. Hell name me the last player to commit anywhere before visiting the school he eventually attends.Spaceman Spiff wrote:I am no Simmons expert, but not visiting...well, a campus visit is highly overrated. Things like a relationship with a coach aren't laid aside because of what the student union looks like. What is the real use in a visit? Meet coeds, see a football game, etc.ChooChooCat wrote:We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
The important stuff for a basketball recruit isn't something you see on a campus visit.
Spare me that a campus visit is highly overrated, you know how important visits are.
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Campus visits help convince a kid to come here. If a kid wants to come here, not visiting is not a red flag. I don't disagree it is not the norm, but I don't understand why you think it is bad. It is a recruiting tool, but not a reason to worry about a kid's character.ChooChooCat wrote:Name the last kid not from this region of the country to commit to Arizona before ever entering the state of Arizona let alone never being on campus.Spaceman Spiff wrote:I am no Simmons expert, but not visiting...well, a campus visit is highly overrated. Things like a relationship with a coach aren't laid aside because of what the student union looks like. What is the real use in a visit? Meet coeds, see a football game, etc.ChooChooCat wrote:We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
The important stuff for a basketball recruit isn't something you see on a campus visit.
Spare me that a campus visit is highly overrated, you know how important visits are.
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Choochoo, now you're on to completely different things from a campus visit. If you don't like the kid, ok. I still don't buy that not visiting is an indictment on the kid. And really, I notice your list of negatives doesn't include academics, substance issues or real red flags beyond that you don't like how his recruitment has gone and you don't like UNLV.
I trust Sean Miller.
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I trust Sean Miller.
Edit: ok, and the post I was responding to is gone.
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I don't know enough about the kid to make the statements I did and that's why I deleted it. I'll let the chips fall as they may. Just a very weird deal so far and the kid scares me for that reason. He is very talented though.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Choochoo, now you're on to completely different things from a campus visit. If you don't like the kid, ok. I still don't buy that not visiting is an indictment on the kid. And really, I notice your list of negatives doesn't include academics, substance issues or real red flags beyond that you don't like how his recruitment has gone and you don't like UNLV.
I trust Sean Miller.
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Re: lets talk '16
Maybe he's on the No Fly List.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Campus visits help convince a kid to come here. If a kid wants to come here, not visiting is not a red flag. I don't disagree it is not the norm, but I don't understand why you think it is bad. It is a recruiting tool, but not a reason to worry about a kid's character.ChooChooCat wrote:Name the last kid not from this region of the country to commit to Arizona before ever entering the state of Arizona let alone never being on campus.Spaceman Spiff wrote:I am no Simmons expert, but not visiting...well, a campus visit is highly overrated. Things like a relationship with a coach aren't laid aside because of what the student union looks like. What is the real use in a visit? Meet coeds, see a football game, etc.ChooChooCat wrote:We wouldn't take him for the same reasons we wouldn't take Sidiki or Josiah again. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but that's why we wouldn't. If he does commit to Arizona having never even seen the campus I would greatly have to question his intentions.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
He's a talented kid, so I don't know why we wouldn't take him, but it is really a "why us, why now" situation.
The important stuff for a basketball recruit isn't something you see on a campus visit.
Spare me that a campus visit is highly overrated, you know how important visits are.
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