NCAA Tournament Game 1, vs. Wichita St. (2015-2016)

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:36 pm

They are ranked 9th on kenpom, I guess kenpom knows something. We are 16. Still don't understand how they are an 11 seed.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:36 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Wow
This team does NOT want to be here.

Reminds me of Seton Hall in the 2004 tourney. Cats were done before they even started

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:36 pm

dirtbags wrote:the miami fans in the bleachers have got to be loving this

Because they are going to play the team that plays hard?

pokinmik · Post by **pokinmik** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:36 pm

We really are just too soft. Especially on the perimeter. Pathetic.

Lute4God · Post by **Lute4God** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:36 pm

Catintheheat wrote:
You can't think that way. If the Cats miraculously pull this off tonight the pressure will be off. If the Cats win I can guarantee the Cats will play better Saturday.

Thanks. How often do fans melt down and embarrass themselves when the team fights on after they give up?

No doubt the team is embarrassed too. Time to see if they can fight their way out of it!

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:36 pm

NYCat wrote:So we keep (playing awful) and lose Josh Jackson

Sean Miller will probably have someone call him by 10 pm California time tonight ha Josh we neeeed you!!

FightWildcatsFight · Post by **FightWildcatsFight** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

Catintheheat wrote:The problem is, other that Trier (who is having a bad game), this team isn't memorable.

sounds like a plus to me

michcat · Post by **michcat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

Wsu will beat Miami and give Vill a tough game.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

Catintheheat wrote:This is embarrassing. This Cats team won't be remembered. We should be thankful we made the tournament. That is an accomplishment for a team who won't be remembered.

And people railed on me for suggesting that it would be a success to just make the tournament. In reality, that was the only goal for this team this year. I'm already over and done with this season. Onto Arizona football.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

Sean Miller cannot change what is about to happen. All of the screaming in the world cannot change the nature of this game.

Arizona is just not very good and WSU will not let up second half.

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

NYCat wrote:So we keep (playing awful) and lose Josh Jackson

Sean Miller will probably have someone call him by 10 pm California time tonight ha Josh we neeeed you!!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game

Yep, Arizona is beating Arizona. WSU isn't all that good.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

OSUCat wrote:Feel bad for Tarc. Shame.

If he could rebound and/or hit a two-footer, we'd be tied.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

catgrad97 wrote:If there isn't something heavy thrown by Miller at half, his sweaty shirt's taken over his brain.

He has done it all year. The cast is die. York should be embarrased. Tarc needs to own the paint. Anderson needs to thank Miller for getting him to a tourney. Trier needs to look pretty for whomever.

This team is do non Sean Miller it is embarressing. I could get 5 guys at the recent who will run harder than them. WSU is more will then skill and Miller cares more about winning then these POS's.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:38 pm

Merkin wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game

Yep, Arizona is beating Arizona. WSU isn't all that good.

Really #1 adj d in the country and ranked 9th overall in kenpom.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:39 pm

Can you yell at someone to care?

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:40 pm

You can yell and throw things if YOU'RE frustrated--because YOU are working harder than the players!

Sir Charles nails it again: Arizona is physically intimidated. Got to have competitive spirit. Where is it on this team?

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:40 pm

so much tolly watching the ball go into the other hoop in those highlights

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:41 pm

Poor guard play and sloppy offensive riddled with turnovers, did anyone expect anything else.

Idk if Arizona slower methodical offense can come back from this, they're not built for this.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:41 pm

The team cares, they're just getting frustrated over WSU's defense, which leads to hero ball and dumb plays.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:41 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game

Keep living on Fantasy Island. They held us under 20 for the half.

Denial is not a river in Egypt

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:42 pm

Pretty bad when the halftime guys say you have no choice mpetitive spirit.

Even worse when they're right on.

Very sad

Lofty · Post by **Lofty** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:42 pm

Well, not a "shocking" result. We have no effort. Where is this Anderson guy that pretty much carried us all season? Kadeem Allen plain SUCKS. We have no point guard and a weak defense. End of story. When you show up in the Dance with lack of effort and hustle combined with that, lights out. Saw this one coming. Who didn't?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:42 pm

1st 5 minutes of the 2nd half will be very telling

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:43 pm

I'm sorry, but I guess I fail to see settling for jumpers and taking quick, stupid shots as frustration.

No tournament mentality on this team. Hope they prove me wrong second half.

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:43 pm

CSM super fan halftime report:

all the players fault, rustic being out there isn't millers fault!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:45 pm

dmjcat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game
Keep living on Fantasy Island. They held us under 20 for the half.

Denial is not a river in Egypt

If we lose put your money where your mouth is. Ill take miami and u take wichita state. $100

Lofty · Post by **Lofty** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:45 pm

Merkin wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game

Yep, Arizona is beating Arizona. WSU isn't all that good.

Well, I agree. WSU isn't that good. But hell, they are playing hard and can play defense. We sure can't. This should be uglier than it is. Blowout city.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:45 pm

Alieberman wrote:1st 5 minutes of the 2nd half will be very telling

Probably not even that long. We will probably know in two or three.

And we probably aren't going to like the knowing

But yeah basically have to have a quick, strong start

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:46 pm

Lofty wrote:Well, not a "shocking" result. We have no effort. Where is this Anderson guy that pretty much carried us all season? Kadeem Allen plain SUCKS. We have no point guard and a weak defense. End of story. When you show up in the Dance with lack of effort and hustle combined with that, lights out. Saw this one coming. Who didn't?

You, sir, are failing to "Bear Down"...

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:46 pm

Lofty wrote:Well, not a "shocking" result. We have no effort. Where is this Anderson guy that pretty much carried us all season? Kadeem Allen plain SUCKS. We have no point guard and a weak defense. End of story. When you show up in the Dance with lack of effort and hustle combined with that, lights out. Saw this one coming. Who didn't?

Unfortunately I doubt the guard situation (especially PG) improves much next year. Kobi Simmons is more of an off-guard and I doubt PJC/KA improve their ball handling skills all that much in the off season. If Trier heads to the league as expected KSimmons will likely play at the small forward position. i do believe that Rawle Alkins will be somewhat of an improvement over Gabe as he has better handles and is physically bigger.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:46 pm

Lofty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game

Yep, Arizona is beating Arizona. WSU isn't all that good.
Well, I agree. WSU isn't that good. But hell, they are playing hard and can play defense. We sure can't. This should be uglier than it is. Blowout city.

Better guards and more hustle beats a bigger stronger team apparently.

Lofty · Post by **Lofty** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:46 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game
Keep living on Fantasy Island. They held us under 20 for the half.

Denial is not a river in Egypt
If we lose put your money where your mouth is. Ill take miami and u take wichita state. $100

Miami absolutely wins against winner of this game.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:48 pm

RiseAndFire wrote:CSM super fan halftime report:

all the players fault, rustic being out there isn't millers fault!

Fuck you r n f. Miller cares more than these shitty players. You have never played ball and no jack shit about bball. WSU has a nastiness that Miller preaches. Ball hoes on the floor and 3 WSU guys are on it. WSU GUY gets beat and a helps defender is there.

Go suck some ass Because you know shit.

Lofty · Post by **Lofty** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:48 pm

Merkin wrote:
Lofty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game

Yep, Arizona is beating Arizona. WSU isn't all that good.
Well, I agree. WSU isn't that good. But hell, they are playing hard and can play defense. We sure can't. This should be uglier than it is. Blowout city.

Better guards and more hustle beats a bigger stronger team apparently.

Duh.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:48 pm

I agree with Newport cat. This is a forgettable season.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:48 pm

The only good thing about this game is that Miller's shirt is getting more press than their ghastly play

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:48 pm

let's go, 'cats! big second half, here we go!

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:50 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game
Keep living on Fantasy Island. They held us under 20 for the half.

Denial is not a river in Egypt
If we lose put your money where your mouth is. Ill take miami and u take wichita state. $100

So you believe that a 3 seed> 11seed???? Don't go too far out on a limb!

Bottom line is that you grossly underestimated WSU and don't have the balls to admit it.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:50 pm

Merkin wrote:The only good thing about this game is that Miller's shirt is getting more press than their ghastly play

Tinkle is going to have to work extra hard to out sweat Miller tomorrow.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:52 pm

WSU will beat Miami

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:52 pm

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:53 pm

WSU is out scoring us 18 to 6 in the paint

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:53 pm

I hope Miller romers whoever he needs to to get Josh Jackson.

Lute4God · Post by **Lute4God** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:54 pm

This field of teams is the "losingest" in the history of the tournament. Survive and advance!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:55 pm

dmjcat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dmjcat wrote:We had this discussion Tuesday night, but remind me who made the argument that "WSU isn't impressive"??
They arent. 41% shooting on two assists, 2-14 from 3. We suck. Thats the story of the game
Keep living on Fantasy Island. They held us under 20 for the half.

Denial is not a river in Egypt
If we lose put your money where your mouth is. Ill take miami and u take wichita state. $100
So you believe that a 3 seed> 11seed???? Don't go too far out on a limb!

Bottom line is that you grossly underestimated WSU and don't have the balls to admit it.

I didnt underestimate shit. We have poor point guard play, we have no ball movement, our only playmaker isnt having a great game, our post players are slow, we are lazy and complacent on offense, we have near minimal bench scoring, our guys effort is trash, we make dumb turnovers, and we fold when u throw pressure at us. Add a great defense and here u go.

Dont be scared though $100.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:55 pm

Miller a defensive minded coach would kill to have a defensively talented team like WSU.

He is dying inside watching WSU play to his personal style.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:56 pm

so who steps up?

i'm thinking we only win if gabe finds his stroke, so... gabe. slightly worried that RA might have reached the point of no return -- like when he gets into a funk in bad games and doesn't recover mentally

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:57 pm

New shirt = new life

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:57 pm

York jogging back on the steal and fast break. Wow.

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