lets talk '16

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:27 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Everyone is running away from Vegas. Ben Carter? How many times can that dude transfer...and is he gonna end his career as a Wildcat?
I'd welcome him with open arms as long as he's fine with playing a smaller role than he even did at UNLV, but in return win. This is transfer #3 for him, which oddly enough isn't that rare nowadays.

I dunno about him. His dad is high friggin maintenance.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:36 pm

Odds To Win The 2017 NCAA Tournament

AS OF APRIL 11

Duke Blue Devils 9-2
Kentucky Wildcats 6-1
Villanova Wildcats 8-1
Louisville Cardinals 10-1
Kansas Jayhawks 10-1
Michigan State Spartans 12-1
North Carolina Tar Heels 15-1
Indiana Hoosiers 20-1
Virginia Cavaliers 20-1
Xavier Musketeers 20-1
Oregon Ducks 20-1
Arizona Wildcats 20-1
Wisconsin Badgers 30-1
West Virginia Mountaineers 30-1
Maryland Terrapins 40-1
Purdue Boilermakers 40-1
Connecticut Huskies 40-1
Iowa State Cyclones 50-1
Miami Hurricanes 50-1
Seton Hall Pirates 50-1
Texas Longhorns 60-1
Gonzaga Bulldogs 80-1
Syracuse Orange 80-1
UCLA Bruins 80-1
Texas A&M Aggies 80-1
Baylor Bears 80-1
Oklahoma Sooners 80-1
Utah Utes 80-1
Butler Bulldogs 100-1
Iowa Hawkeyes 100-1
Michigan Wolverines 100-1
Wichita State Shockers 100-1
Florida Gators 100-1 100-1
Arizona State Sun Devils 100-1

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:39 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Everyone is running away from Vegas. Ben Carter? How many times can that dude transfer...and is he gonna end his career as a Wildcat?
I'd welcome him with open arms as long as he's fine with playing a smaller role than he even did at UNLV, but in return win. This is transfer #3 for him, which oddly enough isn't that rare nowadays.
I dunno about him. His dad is high friggin maintenance.

Is he really? What about his son exactly would cause him to have demands (I assume that's what you mean by high maintenance)? I mean like I said if he's fine with a smaller role than he had at UNLV and wants to win then bring him on and if not then I'm totally fine without him as well.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:40 pm

wow, those odds for asu are a total ripoff. put me down for a sawbuck on Arizona, though.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:41 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Everyone is running away from Vegas. Ben Carter? How many times can that dude transfer...and is he gonna end his career as a Wildcat?
I'd welcome him with open arms as long as he's fine with playing a smaller role than he even did at UNLV, but in return win. This is transfer #3 for him, which oddly enough isn't that rare nowadays.
I dunno about him. His dad is high friggin maintenance.
Is he really? What about his son exactly would cause him to have demands (I assume that's what you mean by high maintenance)? I mean like I said if he's fine with a smaller role than he had at UNLV and wants to win then bring him on and if not then I'm totally fine without him as well.

It was when he left Oregon. His dad was pissed at Altman

No one was more upset about Carter's forgotten role than his father, Mike, who gets fired up at the mere mention of Altman and Oregon.

"Altman is a good coach, but I don't think he really believed in Ben," Mike Carter said. "He never got a chance. It was so frustrating for me. I don't know why he didn't play him. It was a mystery to me. He lost his confidence up there. Altman didn't give him confidence, and he lost it."

Mike Carter drove seven-plus hours from Las Vegas to Salt Lake City on Jan. 2, 2014, to watch his son play for Oregon against Utah. He recounts the trip as if it happened yesterday.

"I drove all the way up there in a snowstorm, and I literally got sideways on the road," Mike Carter said. "Ben played three minutes. That was disheartening. I drove all the way back after the game, mad all the way home."

Altman has won a lot of college games (539 in 27 seasons) and he's no fool, something both Carters repeatedly acknowledge.

"He's a great coach. He's been doing it for a long time. I always wish him the best," said Ben Carter, who was on two NCAA Tournament teams for the Ducks.

"I'm not going to speak on behalf of my father. He's entitled to his opinion. My father is very passionate about me. He raised me and taught me everything I know about the game of basketball, so I understand his frustrations."

Mike Carter played the game in college and for 17 years professionally, with stints in Argentina, Israel, Portugal, the Philippines and in the Continental Basketball Association. He also has coached on various levels. He says Altman never understood what his son was capable of doing.

"I'm all about proving the 'you don't know what you've got until it's gone' theory," Mike Carter said. "Altman is a good coach, but he just didn't use Ben."

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:09 pm

God, please no. My dad was overbearing and overinvolved all the way up through high school and even he knew it was time to play the background in college. There was only one father like that in my three years and EVERYONE hated him - coaches, professional scouts, players, and the guy himself may not have hated his dad but i know for a fact he was seconds away from telling him to F off several times. Not worth it. Thats the typical self-induced god complex from a guy who has to keep reminding himself he is bigger than the typical guy who plays pro ball overseas.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:06 pm

That article does make it sound like it's all his father though. Zeus had a similar issue if I recall and I certainly wouldn't hold that against him. It's all about the player's attitude.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:18 pm

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:06 pm

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Marques-Bolde ... k-44790109" target="_blank

The rich are about to get richer, it seems.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:10 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:http://247sports.com/Bolt/Marques-Bolde ... k-44790109

The rich are about to get richer, it seems.

If and when Bolden commits to Duke, Kentucky will be the frontrunner for Jarrett Allen likely, so indeed the rich gets richer all around.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:12 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:http://247sports.com/Bolt/Marques-Bolde ... k-44790109

The rich are about to get richer, it seems.
If and when Bolden commits to Duke, Kentucky will be the frontrunner for Jarrett Allen likely, so indeed the rich gets richer all around.

And you know what? I'm fine finishing 3rd behind those two. We're in outstanding company and still leading the Pac in recruiting, save for Cal last year.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:16 pm

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:35 pm

What about Alkins?

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:46 pm

azcat49 wrote:What about Adkins?

He has until May 18th to send his LOI

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:52 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:

Thought Kentucky was a player for him.

Why recruiting "news" really isn't. Kid ended up at UW. This thread begins with discussion about Thornton, who ended up reclassifying. Then moves to T.J. Leaf and how to keep him happy. How? With Josh Jackson. Neither one coming.

Then when Miller says wait until spring before evaluating, he's ignored.

Oh well. Beats knocking off liquor stores, I guess.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:53 pm

#3 on ESPN, Scout, 247/247 composite, will probably be 3-5 on Rivals (they have Markkanen as a 4*)

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:59 pm

However, Arizona has not confirmed the receipt of Alkins' letter-of-intent today, the first day of the spring signing period. Markannen signed in November and Arizona announced earlier today that it had received Simmons' LOI.

While UA coaches are still expecting Alkins to sign at some point, Alkins did not respond to a text message from the Star seeking comment about his plans.

http://tucson.com/sports/blogs/pascoe/f ... 37397.html" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:06 pm

Now I'm nervous. Wasn't about JJ since he was expected to go to KU, same with TF to Arizona.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:30 pm

Merkin wrote:Now I'm nervous. Wasn't about JJ since he was expected to go to KU, same with TF to Arizona.

Time to roll a doobie Merk..kick back with a brew, enjoy the moment.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:30 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:41 pm

HiCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Now I'm nervous. Wasn't about JJ since he was expected to go to KU, same with TF to Arizona.

Time to roll a doobie Merk..kick back with a brew, enjoy the moment.

Good call L. That's my plan, although at my age it's some cabernet and a bubbler.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:46 pm

Merkin wrote:Now I'm nervous. Wasn't about JJ since he was expected to go to KU, same with TF to Arizona.

Alkins just had a big magazine spread wearing a bunch of Arizona gear. He's coming. He may not sign his LOI, but then again he doesn't have to.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:10 pm

Chicat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Now I'm nervous. Wasn't about JJ since he was expected to go to KU, same with TF to Arizona.

Alkins just had a big magazine spread wearing a bunch of Arizona gear. He's coming. He may not sign his LOI, but then again he doesn't have to.

Thanks ChiCat! Good to know. Can't wait to see this young stud on the court! Funny, been using that term a lot for this class, 'stud' but damn if it doesn't fit them all.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:33 pm

Just a few days ago he tweeted about the fact he gets to play against a good buddy of his who just committed to New Mexico next season. I'm sure every thing is fine. Process is a bit more complicated for him since he's in North Carolina and he needs his mother's signature whom is in New York.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:54 am

And Alkins doesn't seem the type to worry about a little competition. Relax...

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:50 am

Puerco wrote:And Alkins doesn't seem the type to worry about a little competition. Relax...

Sure doesn't seem that way.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:16 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Puerco wrote:And Alkins doesn't seem the type to worry about a little competition. Relax...

Sure doesn't seem that way.

Don't know how I missed this earlier, I do follow coach!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:37 am

That account is so great

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:34 pm

dirtbags wrote:wow, those odds for asu are a total ripoff. put me down for a sawbuck on Arizona, though.

I think books learned their "impossible longshot" lessons with Leicester City this year (if it happens, but it is going to)...

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:11 pm

From last nights article in the paper:

With Ferguson, UA has two open scholarships remaining for 2016-17, and three if Elliott Pitts does not return to the Wildcats

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:39 am

On to the next one!

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:32 am

Even if Elliot came back, he might not see any court time. Too much talent coming in. Rawle and Terrance might have what it takes to ramp up Arizona's missing defensive toughness. We know both guys can put numbers on the board.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:36 am

Main Event wrote:

Still would like to see one of these for Rawle and TFERG

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:54 am

HiCat wrote:Even if Elliot came back, he might not see any court time. Too much talent coming in. Rawle and Terrance might have what it takes to ramp up Arizona's missing defensive toughness. We know both guys can put numbers on the board.

Doubt we will see him again but if he does return a red shirt would be in order for Pitts

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:34 am

HiCat wrote:Even if Elliot came back, he might not see any court time. Too much talent coming in. Rawle and Terrance might have what it takes to ramp up Arizona's missing defensive toughness. We know both guys can put numbers on the board.

If Elliott came back he'd dominate just like he did from 85 to 89.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:33 am

Or from 73 to 77.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:28 pm

or in 82 when he crushed those scientists and helped ET phone home

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:48 pm

azcat49 wrote:
Main Event wrote:
Still would like to see one of these for Rawle and TFERG

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:59 pm

Sounds like Syracuse has Taurean Thompson locked down. Any names popping up for our remaining 2-3 schollies?

Updated transfer list: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... nsfer-list" target="_blank

Where is Simon going? St Johns?

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:58 am

Does anyone know the deal on the big Turk?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:22 am

Holy shit Rawle is huge.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:29 am

Still no LOI from Rawle

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:00 pm

3goggles wrote:Still no LOI from Rawle

But PGU said he was sign this weekend!

Maybe no one is watching the fax machine in the AD office. Do they work Sunday? Byrne is out of town.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:42 pm

Apparently there's zero concerns about Rawle's signing schedule.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:51 am

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:57 am

Merkin wrote:

Will visit all five schools.

Yeah.

What?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:16 am

Merkin wrote:

He would fit our needs.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:41 am

If he doesn't mind being a role player.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:44 am

gumby wrote:If he doesn't mind being a role player.

He averaged 8 ppg for a middling UNLV team. If he wants a starring role, it should be clear that Arizona (or Mich St, Miami or NCSU) are not for him.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:59 am

He's a guy that would find a way to get minutes here unfortunately. My beef is that minutes for him takes away minutes from Ray, Lauri, and probably Comanche. I'm of the opinion that more minutes for our young guys throughout the season the better off we'll be in the tournament, especially since they are more talented than Carter. Now if he's ok with being a practice body who will see time if there's an unfortunate injury then bring him aboard.

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