2017 recruits/commitment thread

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:48 am

UALoco wrote:both criteria was kind of the point..

Fair enough. Point taken.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:18 pm

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:24 am

I was wondering when we were going to land a typical Rich Rod 5'9 160 lbs receiver with great speed. Rich Rod loves those types of WR's/RB's.

Guy looks really athletic from his HUDL video but will need to put on some weight

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:53 am

Newportcat wrote:I was wondering when we were going to land a typical Rich Rod 5'9 160 lbs receiver with great speed. Rich Rod loves those types of WR's/RB's.

Guy looks really athletic from his HUDL video but will need to put on some weight

Adding weight easier than adding speed.

Probably don't need another WR, but he comes from Armwood near Tampa - a very proven football factory, and his offer list is more than adequate: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Iowa State, Louisville, Oregon State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, Syracuse, Tennessee, Virginia Tech.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:28 am

Could not agree more, thats why I have struggled with some recruits in the past that appeared slow as speed seems like something very hard to add. However, 158 lbs is pretty light for a PAC 12 player but he will put on weight in time.

Still no DE's though. Feel like we will land either Nelson or Tucker at OL and hopefully we get a couple of those Phoenix area DE's and love another DT too.

The one position we did not need is WR however I agree, strong offer list and this is where I struggle sometimes with rankings as this guy clearly should be a high 3 star guy based on his offer list but is not ranked that way. This class could use some speed on offense and this guy looks to be one who fits that role well.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:51 am

Lets finish this class strong with Jalen Harris, Odua Isibor, Ryan Nelson, Isaac Slade-Matuatia and Jaylen Redd and call it a day. Of course we make room for Joseph Lewis, Elijah Blades, Bruce Judson and DJ Johnson if they want to come on board as well.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:26 pm

I know they are trying to make sure every one of these kids that can enroll in December does so they don't have to greyshirt anybody. I have no idea how many slots they have open and it sure looks like this class will be going over 25.

I like the video of this last kid. Dude has speed and great moves. Not sure if he is playing at the highest level of Florida football but all over that state it's pretty good football. His offer list is pretty impressive as well.

PAC 12 media day this week I think, Thursday right?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:22 pm

Burmeister, McNeal, and Fields all intend to enroll early I believe, so maybe we can go 28 with this class?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:47 pm

Were you three short last year?

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:16 am

azcat49 wrote:I know they are trying to make sure every one of these kids that can enroll in December does so they don't have to greyshirt anybody. I have no idea how many slots they have open and it sure looks like this class will be going over 25.

I like the video of this last kid. Dude has speed and great moves. Not sure if he is playing at the highest level of Florida football but all over that state it's pretty good football. His offer list is pretty impressive as well.

Armwood High School is the real deal. They've won three 6A state championships in the past 15 years and during that span have produced a lot of college level talent to include a good share of Gators and Hurricanes. A buddy of mine played HS football there and said the practice sidelines were a constant carousel of top assistants from everywhere - Penn State, Tennessee, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kentucky, etc.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:47 am

MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:45 am

gronk4heisman wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.

28 to 30 sounds about right. Gotta save 2 or 3 for the silent commits.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:31 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.

Britt is also a grey shirt.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:59 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Were you three short last year?

According to my uneducated math, feel free to correct me if you see any errors.
+ 20 signings last year
+ 4 grey shirts (Walker, Nunley, Parks and Sherman)
- 1 grey shirt (Halimon)
- 1 never enrolled (Britt)
- 2 Early Enrollees (Tate and Neves)
= 20 2015 scholarships

So according to that calculation we can go up to 29 signings this year plus Halimon (Greyshirt) as longs as five enroll in the spring.
Britt is also a grey shirt.

I thought I read that Britt's condition worsened and he has since walked away from football.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:21 pm

Britt has a heart problem if I remember correctly, but honestly if it comes down to a guy like Joseph Lewis, Thomas Graham, or Jaylon Johnson want to commit you take them and figure it out later. Every player in this class is pretty solid imo love how it's shaking out.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:12 pm

Puerco wrote:
UALoco wrote:both criteria was kind of the point..
Fair enough. Point taken.

Cool. Thanks for that. I know I have rose colored glasses on but this class is beyond anything fans would have predicted from this team before RR made the coaching changes. I understand being critical but I don't think we are not pulling more 4 and 5* due to a lack of trying. I think most of those kids are front-runners and just want to be on the best, most prestigious team they can. There are exceptions with those men with the confidence that they'll go to the league regardless and want to play for a coaching staff they connect with. Beardown

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:20 pm

Watch out for a 4 star DE with initials DJ. Great offer list and I think AZ has a good shot at him

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:15 am

UALoco wrote:
Puerco wrote:
UALoco wrote:both criteria was kind of the point..
Fair enough. Point taken.
Cool. Thanks for that. I know I have rose colored glasses on but this class is beyond anything fans would have predicted from this team before RR made the coaching changes. I understand being critical but I don't think we are not pulling more 4 and 5* due to a lack of trying. I think most of those kids are front-runners and just want to be on the best, most prestigious team they can. There are exceptions with those men with the confidence that they'll go to the league regardless and want to play for a coaching staff they connect with. Beardown

It has indeed far surpassed my expectations. Hopefeully our classes continue to do that year on year.

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:23 am

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:05 am

azcat49 wrote:Watch out for a 4 star DE with initials DJ. Great offer list and I think AZ has a good shot at him

I think hejust named Miami a leader

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:33 am

MrBug708 wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Watch out for a 4 star DE with initials DJ. Great offer list and I think AZ has a good shot at him
I think hejust named Miami a leader

Well we still have a shot. If we can get him in for an official visit you never know what might happen

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:46 pm

the real dill wrote:

Looks like we have the edge for Harris:

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... clude.html" target="_blank

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:52 pm

Someone on 247 fell for the Hunter Echols routine

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:58 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Someone on 247 fell for the Hunter Echols routine

What is the Hunter Echols routine exactly?

Sage&Silver · Post by **Sage&Silver** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:59 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Someone on 247 fell for the Hunter Echols routine
What is the Hunter Echols routine exactly?

I think he's referring to Gabe Encinas from AZ Desert Swarm flipping his crystal ball prediction to Arizona earlier today.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:23 pm

Every fan base thinks he's flipping to them after a visit. Washington, USC, Notre Dame, and now an Arizona guy. He's not exactly a lock to ucla but the kid loves recruiting

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:09 am

MrBug708 wrote:Every fan base thinks he's flipping to them after a visit. Washington, USC, Notre Dame, and now an Arizona guy. He's not exactly a lock to ucla but the kid loves recruiting

I definitely don't doubt you, but he hasn't visited Arizona since March. Probably linking him up with Rhedi Short or something to come to that conclusion, who knows?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:20 pm

Freak Nasty

TyrantCat · Post by **TyrantCat** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:30 pm

chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty

Say what?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:48 pm

chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty

Miami?

Sage&Silver · Post by **Sage&Silver** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:03 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty
Miami?

He wasn't in 2LiveCrew.

Same last name as the CB from MI..... but that would be a stretch of a clue unless they're related. I gave up, but every crazy thing I came up with was a 4 star, so

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:13 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Freak Nasty
Miami?

Very probable.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:17 pm

Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:56 am

azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:07 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

And that means DJ won't come(will go to Miami?) or no way that 5 star guy would be a silent. I have no inside on any of this like you Chief, just hoping. Always cryptic you are Chief.

If you have something to say do so

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:29 pm

azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

That kid's offer list is huge.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:57 am

azcat49 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Deonte Johnson. Hoping that 5 star receiver is a silent to us

And that means DJ won't come(will go to Miami?) or no way that 5 star guy would be a silent. I have no inside on any of this like you Chief, just hoping. Always cryptic you are Chief.

If you have something to say do so

DJ most likely goes to Miami but things can always change. I hear ya about the hope. Were you thinking Lewis is a silent commit?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:26 am

Just hoping he was/is. Who wouldn't want that. I know he is coming in this weekend

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:34 am

azcat49 wrote:Just hoping he was/is. Who wouldn't want that. I know he is coming in this weekend

Stranger things have happened my friend.

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:18 pm

Good summation of who we are targeting from SB Nation.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:32 pm

ANGCatFan wrote:Good summation of who we are targeting from SB Nation.

This article is incredibly optimistic, but I would take us finishing up our class with the names Gabe mentioned in a heartbeat.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:27 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:
ANGCatFan wrote:Good summation of who we are targeting from SB Nation.
This article is incredibly optimistic, but I would take us finishing up our class with the names Gabe mentioned in a heartbeat.

All but 5 schools would be happy with those kids. I think dc isn't that optimistic about Arizona football. There are some good names on that list.

Sage&Silver · Post by **Sage&Silver** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:25 pm

Sage&Silver · Post by **Sage&Silver** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:26 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Every fan base thinks he's flipping to them after a visit. Washington, USC, Notre Dame, and now an Arizona guy. He's not exactly a lock to ucla but the kid loves recruiting

At least one fan base is going to be right.

Is he one of the "big recruits" on campus this weekend?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:21 pm

Yup. He liked the game and got burned. That reporter from UW really burned him badly and UCLA coaches weren't too happy with it. I think the staff goes after DJ now that they have an opening at DE again.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:35 am

What a big deal if our coaches could convince Echols. He would play the second he put on a jersey.

MrBug708 wrote:Yup. He liked the game and got burned. That reporter from UW really burned him badly and UCLA coaches weren't too happy with it. I think the staff goes after DJ now that they have an opening at DE again.

What's the story of this Washington reporter?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:28 pm

Private convo talking about his commitment status, He's always been committed to UCLA, but open to all schools and lets it known. The reported screenshotted his text convo with Echols to say that he really was decommitmented. Once that hit, the UCLA coaches weren't none to pleased and Echols tried to do damage control. Now he's open and I'm not sure UCLA coaches are that interested in spending too much time recruiting him. It's Echols own fault for enjoying the recruiting too much, but Lars was more interested in proving he had a scoop than he did with the kids actually recruit. It happens. I'd expect this will likely go to signing day.

Cathedral kids are pretty flakey though, so who knows

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:18 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Private convo talking about his commitment status, He's always been committed to UCLA, but open to all schools and lets it known. The reported screenshotted his text convo with Echols to say that he really was decommitmented. Once that hit, the UCLA coaches weren't none to pleased and Echols tried to do damage control. Now he's open and I'm not sure UCLA coaches are that interested in spending too much time recruiting him. It's Echols own fault for enjoying the recruiting too much, but Lars was more interested in proving he had a scoop than he did with the kids actually recruit. It happens. I'd expect this will likely go to signing day.

Cathedral kids are pretty flakey though, so who knows

We'll gladly take him if we end up being his final choice. We need guys like Echols, but hopefully more weary of reporters

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:49 pm

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:18 pm

Ya. So, any Lewis commitment yet?

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