I don't think so, but you wouldn't know it from his highlights. Kid has a great left hand.Chicat wrote:Is he ambidextrous?Dave wrote:High energy guy that wants to dunk on everyone.
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Congrats Ira Lee...good choice. Excited to see this guy compete for a spot! Bear Down.
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Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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That's very cool....What's the biggest factor in his decision? Thanks!Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.
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I read that his family is torn. Some want him to stay close to home while others understand the opportunity of getting away and what Arizona offers from a development standpoint.Bangkok Wildcat wrote:That's very cool....What's the biggest factor in his decision? Thanks!Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Looks to me like he finishes everything around the rim with his left, but he shoots jumpers with his right. He might be ambidextrous. Not sure I've seen that before.
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http://247sports.com/Player/Lonnie-Walker-81416" target="_blankChicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.
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I live near Reading, PA, and I actually teach at an Alternative Ed. school in Reading. It is a really crappy city to live in, tons of gang activity and drugs. I really hope, For Walker's sake, that he does leave and gets out of that. Would love for him to be a Wildcat!
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Nice! Come on, L-Dub!Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.
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Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.
Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.
Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.
So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank
...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank
It's nice to have that built-in advantage.
Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.
Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.
So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank
...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank
It's nice to have that built-in advantage.
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Welcome. Good to have new members.YoDeFoe wrote:Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.
Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.
Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.
So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank
...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank
It's nice to have that built-in advantage.
Nova does play a lot of games at the Sixers arena, but even then, there's a big difference between going to the local pro arena and having one sitting in the middle of campus. Between RJ and McKale, Arizona has facilities that match anyone in the nation. Even Kentucky and UNC, we're right there.
It's especially important because we don't sit in a fertile recruiting ground. We need out of state recruits to compete. Miller can sell Arizona as a basketball first community, and everything from facilities to our fan support speaks to that.
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That's a great point - the sale is a story and our's is consistent through and through. Basketball focused: http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews ... .image.jpg" target="_blank and http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews ... .image.jpg" target="_blankMiller can sell Arizona as a basketball first community, and everything from facilities to our fan support speaks to that.
FWIW Coach K of Utah was just on media day talking about how excited he is to have an upgraded practice facility, hinting how it would help him recruit.
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AZ, UK, KU, Duke, UNC...these are the best five places to be a college basketball player these days.
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UK and KU have the leg up these days with their resort style dorms for their players. I imagine we'll have to step up to match at some point. UK started it and KU just matched.
KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank
KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank
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Theirs may be better, but last I saw, ours are pretty impressive as well.YoDeFoe wrote:UK and KU have the leg up these days with their resort style dorms for their players. I imagine we'll have to step up to match at some point. UK started it and KU just matched.
KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank
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well all freshmen athletes, especially football and basketball, live in the newest nicest dorm on campus already.YoDeFoe wrote:UK and KU have the leg up these days with their resort style dorms for their players. I imagine we'll have to step up to match at some point. UK started it and KU just matched.
KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank
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i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Welcome to the club. Don't believe the rumors about newbies having to buy everyone a beer.YoDeFoe wrote:Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.
Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.
Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.
So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank
...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank
It's nice to have that built-in advantage.
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We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?84Cat wrote:
I know I didnt post my takes from Red-Blue here, but...
Ive been on the Allen isnt a PG train for over a year now. He needs to play off the ball and be allowed to use his strengths to his advantage.
Kobi isnt ready to play PG yet, and it was pretty clear in the scrimmage. Allen looks like the back up PG by default right now, but Kobi is going to need to share the floor with Allen (like he did in Red-Blue) if he plays any sort of PG role, at least early in the season.
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Rawle Motherfuckin' AlkinsTucsonClip wrote:We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?84Cat wrote:
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Simplest thing is to have Kobi play in tandem with Kadeem or Alkins, because they're both strong ballhandlers. It's the functional equivalent of training wheels.TucsonClip wrote:We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?84Cat wrote:
I know I didnt post my takes from Red-Blue here, but...
Ive been on the Allen isnt a PG train for over a year now. He needs to play off the ball and be allowed to use his strengths to his advantage.
Kobi isnt ready to play PG yet, and it was pretty clear in the scrimmage. Allen looks like the back up PG by default right now, but Kobi is going to need to share the floor with Allen (like he did in Red-Blue) if he plays any sort of PG role, at least early in the season.
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From what I've heard from Miller and the internets, coach hopes the PG spot is PJC and Kobi, with Kadeem as needed as a backup but primarily our SG (also shared with Kobi).
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Thats exactly why Miller played Kobi and Allen on the same team in Red-Blue.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Simplest thing is to have Kobi play in tandem with Kadeem or Alkins, because they're both strong ballhandlers. It's the functional equivalent of training wheels.TucsonClip wrote:We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?84Cat wrote:
I know I didnt post my takes from Red-Blue here, but...
Ive been on the Allen isnt a PG train for over a year now. He needs to play off the ball and be allowed to use his strengths to his advantage.
Kobi isnt ready to play PG yet, and it was pretty clear in the scrimmage. Allen looks like the back up PG by default right now, but Kobi is going to need to share the floor with Allen (like he did in Red-Blue) if he plays any sort of PG role, at least early in the season.
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I agree with Miller on Allen needing to play off the ball. However, Kobi isnt ready to play the point. Miller's comments about him playing two positions and his Red-Blue lineup mesh with what Ive seen of Kobi in the scrimmage.YoDeFoe wrote:From what I've heard from Miller and the internets, coach hopes the PG spot is PJC and Kobi, with Kadeem as needed as a backup but primarily our SG (also shared with Kobi).
"Plus, why would I go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros."
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And the weather, of course.YoDeFoe wrote:Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.
Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.
Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.
So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank
...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank
It's nice to have that built-in advantage.
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Holy shit, Shereen Ryan gets a press pass?! WTF
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Seems like the Ira Lee commitment was kind of quiet. I saw it on here and then on twitter the other day, but Scheer doesn't have one tweet or even a retweet about it. Seems a bit odd. But glad the kid finally committed!
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KOQSTRONG wrote:Seems like the Ira Lee commitment was kind of quiet. I saw it on here and then on twitter the other day, but Scheer doesn't have one tweet or even a retweet about it. Seems a bit odd. But glad the kid finally committed!
He tweets that stuff from here now:
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Yeah. Except for, you know, those issues with our S&C program, right?Beachcat97 wrote:AZ, UK, KU, Duke, UNC...these are the best five places to be a college basketball player these days.
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I fear another bagel theft.Alieberman wrote:Ari meet Ira
Ira... Ari
Right where I want to be.
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Good to know. I unfollowed that, because it was always redundant. Guess that's changed.UAEebs86 wrote:KOQSTRONG wrote:Seems like the Ira Lee commitment was kind of quiet. I saw it on here and then on twitter the other day, but Scheer doesn't have one tweet or even a retweet about it. Seems a bit odd. But glad the kid finally committed!
He tweets that stuff from here now:
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Right where I want to be.
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damn, I forgot all about it
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Buddy of mine went. Two main observations:gumby wrote:Did anyone go watch Ayton?
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/3345 ... son-a-star" target="_blank
1. Very low shot release. Whether that becomes an issue or not, who knows.
2. "Doesn't run well." I asked him whether he meant run the floor or physically run, he said both. Not as bad as Greg Oden though, and most kids encounter issues after college anyways (oh hello recent KU big men).
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Look no further than this year's team. Rawle Alkins shoots with his right, but almost exclusively finishes at the rim with his left.Catstatic wrote:Looks to me like he finishes everything around the rim with his left, but he shoots jumpers with his right. He might be ambidextrous. Not sure I've seen that before.
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I watched one of his videos and his release didn't look low, but he has poor mechanics for a guy who wants to be a threat inside and outside. His shot preparation was bad and he takes a ton of time to get it from the shot pocket to release. Can get away with it in high school, but yea.prh wrote:Buddy of mine went. Two main observations:gumby wrote:Did anyone go watch Ayton?
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/3345 ... son-a-star" target="_blank
1. Very low shot release. Whether that becomes an issue or not, who knows.
2. "Doesn't run well." I asked him whether he meant run the floor or physically run, he said both. Not as bad as Greg Oden though, and most kids encounter issues after college anyways (oh hello recent KU big men).
Just read one of his scouting reports which noted his low release and in the pic above the report, his release looks good. Said scouting report notes his mechanics "change by the day" so that would explain all of this.
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I'd mentioned the SI article right before Ayton commited, but that one also talked about him being casual about running. I don't really think that's particularly unusual for a big time prospect. Stanley had Miller get on him for consistent effort. Really physically talented guys can get away with so so effort in HS easily.
I'm still more worried about overseas and eligibility.
I'm still more worried about overseas and eligibility.
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These glowing reviews have helped with my overseas/eligibility fears.
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If pressed to choose only one, I wonder what most would prefer: Trier is eligible for this entire season or Ayton actually plays at AZ next year?
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Tougher decision w/o McCoy in the fold... but would lean Trier for this season. Bird in the hand. win now, worry about next year, next year.Beachcat97 wrote:If pressed to choose only one, I wonder what most would prefer: Trier is eligible for this entire season or Ayton actually plays at AZ next year?
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Trier now, and not even a tough decision. Next year we will (probably) have Dusan at Center with Chance backing him up/playing the 4. Lee incoming, Smith likely returning, and there is plenty of time left with the 17 class. Focus on the now, you can always adapt later.Beachcat97 wrote:If pressed to choose only one, I wonder what most would prefer: Trier is eligible for this entire season or Ayton actually plays at AZ next year?
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Why the need to even play devil's advocate? Take both.
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I know this guy is going to MSU but he will be here this weekdend
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The PA pipeline strikes again. It makes sense with CSM's history and all. He would be #3 right?
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I'd take Trier this year over Ayton next year, if we could only have one. And yeah, it's not even close.
Sorta think AT being eligible could be the difference between merely getting to the tourney and perhaps getting to the second weekend.
Sorta think AT being eligible could be the difference between merely getting to the tourney and perhaps getting to the second weekend.
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Yeah. It's not happening. Can't remember a time when a guy was this heavy of a lean to another school and then suddenly committed to AZ.84Cat wrote:I know this guy is going to MSU but he will be here this weekdend
http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/ ... redictions" target="_blank