let's talk '20

psiclist23 · Post by **psiclist23** » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:09 am

You all have probably heard of this guy. I just saw this:

http://www.si.com/longform/2017/nico-ma ... index.html

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:34 am

The Ginja Ninja is the real deal. He's been on campus a buttload of times already as well.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:26 am

Mannion is a great example of how hard it is to project at that age. He stays 6'1 and he's a pretty meh prospect for a high major. He grows to 6'5 and he's a really good prospect.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:40 am

psiclist23 wrote:You all have probably heard of this guy. I just saw this:

http://www.si.com/longform/2017/nico-ma ... index.html

Dog named Zeus. He's ours.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:40 pm

gumby wrote:
psiclist23 wrote:You all have probably heard of this guy. I just saw this:

http://www.si.com/longform/2017/nico-ma ... index.html
Dog named Zeus. He's ours.

Yup, we need another mascot

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:02 pm

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:26 pm

gumby wrote:
psiclist23 wrote:You all have probably heard of this guy. I just saw this:

http://www.si.com/longform/2017/nico-ma ... index.html
Dog named Zeus. He's ours.

I heard his dog runs really hard but has suspect hands.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:10 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mannion is a great example of how hard it is to project at that age. He stays 6'1 and he's a pretty meh prospect for a high major. He grows to 6'5 and he's a really good prospect.

The Instagram link in NYCat's post says he's now 6'4''. I'm all for bringing him in -- there's no such thing as too many guards in college. Gotta sign the local guys when they're Arizona good.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:33 pm

Hopefully he reclassifies, think he's a year older than his class like Bagley was

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:41 pm

I'd move the Mannion stuff to the 2019 thread.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:44 pm

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:
psiclist23 wrote:You all have probably heard of this guy. I just saw this:

http://www.si.com/longform/2017/nico-ma ... index.html
Dog named Zeus. He's ours.
I heard his dog runs really hard but has suspect hands.

Spiff, you're saying we should paws on Manion then?

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:12 pm

You all need to "relax" about the dog.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:09 am

https://twitter.com/niccolomannion/stat ... 68929?s=21" target="_blank

Wright’s coming for Nico.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:35 am

But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.

That's what espn tells us

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:00 am

CatHoops wrote:But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.
That's what espn tells us

Wright is making Nova into Guard U. Pretty sure any elite guard would entertain an offer from Nova these days. That’s the hottest program in basketball.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:08 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
CatHoops wrote:But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.
That's what espn tells us

Wright is making Nova into Guard U. Pretty sure any elite guard would entertain an offer from Nova these days. That’s the hottest program in basketball.

Yes I agree but he was being praised for not getting involved with many elite prospects when the b.s. broke. It wasn't that he didn't wanna play in that field he just couldn't get them. Now he can and will play that game like any coach would

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:16 am

CatHoops wrote:But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.
That's what espn tells us

Mannion's not a one and done. I like his game, but Nova probably sees him more in the Brunson mold.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:17 am

CatHoops wrote:But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.
That's what espn tells us

Also: "We don't get involved in dirty recruiting."

picks up Quinerly

Good things happening for Nova and no real hate towards them, but the fans need to catch up.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
CatHoops wrote:But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.
That's what espn tells us
Mannion's not a one and done. I like his game, but Nova probably sees him more in the Brunson mold.

Mannion is bigger and way more athletic and still a sophomore. Nba scouts will be after him harder than brunson

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:48 am

YoDeFoe wrote:
CatHoops wrote:But Villanova doesn't go after one and done 5star kids.
That's what espn tells us
Also: "We don't get involved in dirty recruiting."

picks up Quinerly

Good things happening for Nova and no real hate towards them, but the fans need to catch up.

I don't hate Nova either because I'd have done the same thing with Quinerly if roles were reversed. It is BS that we get hammered for Book asking for money and saying it was for Quinerly, but no one makes a peep when Quinerly signs with Nova.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu May 03, 2018 6:55 pm

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:42 pm

https://tucson.com/ua-target-dayten-hol ... 75394.html" target="_blank

Dayten Holman, a four-star guard in the class of 2020 from Oklahoma, will play this season at Bella Vista, a Scottsdale prep school.

The 6-5 Holman, now rated No. 73 nationally by 247Sports.com, visited Arizona unofficially last week. He’ll play for Bella Vista’s Kyle Weaver, who coached former UA star Deandre Ayton at Phoenix Hillcrest Prep for two seasons.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:51 am

Would be hilarious

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:42 pm

NYCat wrote:Would be hilarious

Currently ESPeNis has only ASU and UA as intrests.

Rivals lists ASU, UA and St Johns

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:31 am

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:28 am

Hopefully Arizona stays far away from this recruitment, doubt they even recruit him tbh. He might also reclassify to 2019.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:38 am

Arizona will not be involved, our logo is in the picture for hype purposes alone.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:51 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Arizona will not be involved, our logo is in the picture for hype purposes alone.

Good. Walker's recruitment does not sound particularly clean.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:57 am

Seems like Kansas would naturally be the leader among that group

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:35 pm

Starts his visit tommorow

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:25 pm

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:45 pm

Some decent in state talent in this class well. It will be interesting to see if we get the pick of the litter.

StickItInTheyFace · Post by **StickItInTheyFace** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:11 am

Any real sharpshooters that we are targeting in this class? Crazy to me, after all this talent we have brought in, that we cant have a real spot up shooter that runs to the corner on every play and converts. I think originally that's what Randolph and Smith were supposed to be, but obviously we see what happened with that...

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:51 am

My grandson (who is 6’5” with a size 16 shoe) plays as a freshman on the JV team. I stayed to watch their varsity team and they have a kid by the name of Shon Robinson. Kid is incredible. Are we recruiting him? He has a high level game

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:53 am

azcat49 wrote:My grandson (who is 6’5” with a size 16 shoe) plays as a freshman on the JV team. I stayed to watch their varsity team and they have a kid by the name of Shon Robinson. Kid is incredible. Are we recruiting him? He has a high level game

From Higley?

This page says we offered him back in May:

https://247sports.com/Player/Shon-Robin ... ineEvents/

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:57 am

Well I can see why. Kid has game. Thx Eebs. One thing though, he is not 6’9”. He might be 6’7”

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:32 pm

azcat49 wrote:My grandson (who is 6’5” with a size 16 shoe) plays as a freshman on the JV team. I stayed to watch their varsity team and they have a kid by the name of Shon Robinson. Kid is incredible. Are we recruiting him? He has a high level game

Yes, he's one of our top priorities at his position.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:00 am

4 star from Sierra Canyon

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:22 pm

https://twitter.com/azauthority/status/ ... 94113?s=21" target="_blank

Don’t mind an offer like this at all.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:19 pm

For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:00 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?

Not sure but I certainly wouldn’t mind a shift to a more developmental recruiting approach.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:53 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?

"You recruit who you can land."

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:10 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?
"You recruit who you can land."

Could be a blessing in disguise...

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:39 am

Also, my initial glance at the '20 class gives the impression that -- as a whole -- it's not on the same level as '19.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:42 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?
"You recruit who you can land."

^this - I think CSM is expecting some type of sanction at some time. Having loyal guys in the program who know his system will be huge in bridging whatever gap needs to be bridged. Just as important, as a hedge against the fall of the one and done. The '20 class is likely to be the last 1AD group w/ '21 able to go straight to the NBA draft.

Finally, as of right now without any traditional transfers our roster could very easily be:

Williams (maybe?)
Barcello
Armstrong
Lee
Koloko

Lot's and Lot's of scholarships to give. If Johnson is cool with coming in with other more highly rated kids that might be 1AD and be ready to contribute year 2 then awesome. Again, that '21/22 roster is not likely to have an influx of immediate impact talent. Teams that return a lot of talent/experience are going to have a leg up for a couple of years.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:43 am

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?
"You recruit who you can land."
Could be a blessing in disguise...

Akot was a 5 star. I'm not sold on the "star" system. I prefer the eye test and a coach's assessment.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:44 am

Beachcat97 wrote:Also, my initial glance at the '20 class gives the impression that -- as a whole -- it's not on the same level as '19.

That's ok if we don't lose the entire '19 class to one and done.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:17 am

The 2020 big men class is especially weak, even more so in the west coast. Not that much talent.

The 2020 class will be really interesting to watch play out and who Miller can land. In retrospect the '19 class was kind of once in a lifetime class with all the circumstances surrounding the program. Miller & the program had 3 highly rated recruits in state (although one moved for a year) who wanted to play at Arizona and for Miller. Koloko isn't as highly rated and there wasn't much competition. Nnaji is the most impressive of the bunch.

If the NCAA hovering around limits Arizona to non top flight recruits, it will be a blessing. The roster turnover and the packline don't mix well.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:34 pm

zonagrad wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:For someone in the know, I'm seeing a lot of offers to 4-stars. Nothing wrong with 4-stars, but does our not offering 5-stars have anything to do with scandal-induced weakened recruiting mojo? Or is just still early for the '20 class?
"You recruit who you can land."
Could be a blessing in disguise...

Akot was a 5 star. I'm not sold on the "star" system. I prefer the eye test and a coach's assessment.

Yeah, there have been a number of five-star and high ranked four-stars that have come through here that do not live up to the billing, not even close. Akot and Randolph are two recent players that come to mind.

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