2017 NCAA tournament game thread

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:40 am

legallykenny wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Thats were I'm at now EV. Give it to Few and the Zags, I'm cool with them.

Enjoy the games.
If this Ginzaga team wins I'm going to have a hard time following this sport anymore until the one and done rule and grad transfer rules are killed.

But if the team with the academic scandal wins, you're good?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:43 am

azcat49 wrote:Just got back from the games and my Jackson from NC is good. He shut down Brooks and made some tough shots. Duck fans were besides themselves not getting those rebounds.

Lots of fun but basketball in domes is dumb. Can't even buy a beer and watch it on the big screen. Should be a great game Monday night

So freaking dumb. I feel like there's nothing the NCAA wouldn't do to bring in an extra dollar.

Let the players tackle each other!

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:02 am

If you're still on the fence as to why college basketball is better, watch Frank Martin's post-game comments.

http://thespun.com/college-hoops/watch- ... broke-down" target="_blank

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:38 am

I don't care for the elevated court and the entire team sitting "downstairs" from the action while the head coach is perched on a chair. There's no interaction between assistants and players. It doesn't feel right.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:03 am

Wise move of course. Don't think Lute ever did though.

legallykenny · Post by **legallykenny** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:11 am

gumby wrote:
legallykenny wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Thats were I'm at now EV. Give it to Few and the Zags, I'm cool with them.

Enjoy the games.
If this Ginzaga team wins I'm going to have a hard time following this sport anymore until the one and done rule and grad transfer rules are killed.
But if the team with the academic scandal wins, you're good?

I didn't see Rashad McCants out their on the court yesterday but maybe I just missed him.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:08 pm

Only way ASU fans will ever see a FF...

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:11 pm

Gravy trainers...

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:50 pm

Walking around the final 4 fan fest at the convention center yesterday and there were a TON of people wearing ASU gear. Was kinda funny

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:57 pm

ASU Sun Devil Basketball: a grand total of TWO NCAA Tournament victories in the last 21 years. TWO WINS, the last one coming in 2009. Only Oregon State has a weaker NCAA Tournament resume from the Pac 10/12 Conference in the last 20 years. Why in the hell would anyone wear an ASU Sun Devil shirt within a nuclear blast of the NCAA Tournament? Their presence there just cheapens the event. In fact, security should be screening for terrorists and anyone stupid enough to be wearing ASU gear near a Final Four event.

prh · Post by **prh** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:31 pm

Only Pac-12 is stupid enough to say #BackThePac for Gonzaga. Also, fuck the back the Pac thing anyways

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:08 pm

Seriously, I don't get back the pac for gonzaga. but I know a little more about basketball and the postseason than than an ASU fan and ivy-league marketing intern in Walnut Creek.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:33 pm

I'm tired of the Gonzaga love affair. They benefit unfairly every year from a weak conference schedule and have been inordinately seeded too high over the years. Even this year, how could you not give them a 1-seed? Every other top 20 team in the country plays a more rigorous schedule. They're a unique program because of circumstance. But every other team in the WCC not named St. Mary's would finish dead last in the mediocre Pac 12.

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:53 am

zonagrad wrote:ASU Sun Devil Basketball: a grand total of TWO NCAA Tournament victories in the last 21 years. TWO WINS, the last one coming in 2009. Only Oregon State has a weaker NCAA Tournament resume from the Pac 10/12 Conference in the last 20 years. Why in the hell would anyone wear an ASU Sun Devil shirt within a nuclear blast of the NCAA Tournament? Their presence there just cheapens the event. In fact, security should be screening for terrorists and anyone stupid enough to be wearing ASU gear near a Final Four event.

Aw gee. Give em a break. Its the closest they will ever get.

On the other hand, get real. Fuck asu

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:16 am

Wrote this regarding Gonzaga. Like them or not, it's pretty amazing how they've sustained this doing it their way -- and keeping the coach. Though, granted, they took in three transfers and that's the team that broke through.

The hype here is insane, as you may imagine.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/a ... ained-exc/" target="_blank

Bash away!

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:16 am

zonagrad wrote:I'm tired of the Gonzaga love affair. They benefit unfairly every year from a weak conference schedule and have been inordinately seeded too high over the years. Even this year, how could you not give them a 1-seed? Every other top 20 team in the country plays a more rigorous schedule. They're a unique program because of circumstance. But every other team in the WCC not named St. Mary's would finish dead last in the mediocre Pac 12.

BYU would be higher than that, but yeah.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:46 am

gumby wrote:Wrote this regarding Gonzaga. Like them or not, it's pretty amazing how they've sustained this doing it their way -- and keeping the coach. Though, granted, they took in three transfers and that's the team that broke through.

The hype here is insane, as you may imagine.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/a ... ained-exc/" target="_blank

Bash away!

You're a good sport. Well said.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:13 pm

I'm like Mark Few, who said this:

"Sean Miller and I are pretty good friends. I root for the Cats unless we’re playing them and he’s had a phenomenal year."

I root for the Zags unless we're playing them.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:27 pm

What's not to like about their program? Few is a class act. The only thing I resent about their program ( and really it's not their fault) is the crappy conference in which they play. They basically get a two month sabbatical while other programs are beating each others brains in during conference play. You could argue that the soft conference schedule doesn't prepare Gonzaga for the rigors of March. And I think that has been born out by them not doing much in the tournament relative to seeding for the last 17 years.
This year's Gonzaga team is a whole other animal because of three transfers. They're legit and you could argue that those transfers are already battle tested from competing in tougher conferences (Pac 12/SEC). The season has been a perfect storm for their program: Karnowski is healthy and gets a 5th year, 3 transfers all eligible, and even a fortuitous bracket in the tournament thanks to Arizona losing to Xavier & South Carolina making its own Cinderella run.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:53 pm

zonagrad wrote:What's not to like about their program? Few is a class act. The only thing I resent about their program ( and really it's not their fault) is the crappy conference in which they play. They basically get a two sabbatical while other programs are beating each others brains in during conference play. You could argue that the soft conference schedule doesn't prepare Gonzaga for the rigors of March. And I think that has been born out by them not doing much in the tournament relative to seeding for the last 17 years.
This year's Gonzaga team is a whole other animal because of three transfers. They're legit and you could argue that those transfers are already battle tested from competing in tougher conferences (Pac 12/SEC). The season has been a perfect storm for their program: Karnowski is healthy and gets a 5th year, 3 transfers all eligible, and even a fortuitous bracket in the tournament thanks to Arizona losing to Xavier & South Carolina making its own Cinderella run.

Yeah, I don't get the Zaga hate. Their conference affiliation is because they lack football and can't be in the Big East, and that isn't their fault.

Maybe some of the cuteness is gone because they really aren't the little engine that could any more, but hey, credit to Few for building them up like that. They don't abuse the rules, seem to do things legit and have built something really good. I give them respect and will root for them tonight.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:19 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
zonagrad wrote:What's not to like about their program? Few is a class act. The only thing I resent about their program ( and really it's not their fault) is the crappy conference in which they play. They basically get a two sabbatical while other programs are beating each others brains in during conference play. You could argue that the soft conference schedule doesn't prepare Gonzaga for the rigors of March. And I think that has been born out by them not doing much in the tournament relative to seeding for the last 17 years.
This year's Gonzaga team is a whole other animal because of three transfers. They're legit and you could argue that those transfers are already battle tested from competing in tougher conferences (Pac 12/SEC). The season has been a perfect storm for their program: Karnowski is healthy and gets a 5th year, 3 transfers all eligible, and even a fortuitous bracket in the tournament thanks to Arizona losing to Xavier & South Carolina making its own Cinderella run.
Yeah, I don't get the Zaga hate. Their conference affiliation is because they lack football and can't be in the Big East, and that isn't their fault.

Maybe some of the cuteness is gone because they really aren't the little engine that could any more, but hey, credit to Few for building them up like that. They don't abuse the rules, seem to do things legit and have built something really good. I give them respect and will root for them tonight.

These are my exact thoughts, well said Spliff

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:40 pm

I find myself pulling for the Zags tonight.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:50 pm

Me too.

I'm going back and forth, just want to see a well played game and close to the end.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:53 pm

azgreg wrote:I find myself pulling for the Zags tonight.

Same here. Always root west coast, and especially against ACC.

UNC has been there enough. No hate for Cryin' Roy, he's no Krzyzewski, but give someone else a natty.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:51 pm

Zags came to play. It feels bad they haven't separated, though. They seem to be in a better place then they actually are.

Also, sad that a really good game has constant whistles and both teams in the bonus 5 minutes into a half.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:54 pm

Pac12 officials? Yikes this is awful. Both teams in bonus with over 13 minutes left in 2nd half.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:58 pm

prh wrote:Pac12 officials? Yikes this is awful. Both teams in bonus with over 13 minutes left in 2nd half.

That last foul on Pinson guarding Williams-Goss reminded me of the brutal Nick Johnson offensive foul vs. Wisconsin in '14.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:00 pm

But that is some awful shooting by both teams. These are the best 2 teams in the nation?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:03 pm

UNC is gonna win this. Sooner or later, something has to go down, and they're up one missing everything.

The refs are sort of killing this, though. At least the announcers will talk about it.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:11 pm

The officiating is atrocious.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:12 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:UNC is gonna win this. Sooner or later, something has to go down, and they're up one missing everything.

The refs are sort of killing this, though. At least the announcers will talk about it.

Brutal officiating. Both teams are scraping because there's a whistle on every play.

These refs are gonna be skewered by the media when this is over. And they should be.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:15 pm

No kidding. I even switched over to "Dancing With the Stars" after the last interminable replay.

Harris and Eades, repping the Pac-12 refs.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:17 pm

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:19 pm

Now with the stoppages. Jeez.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:26 pm

The effort from both teams doesn't deserve the reffing they're receiving.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:28 pm

There was a stat that flashed up a couple minutes ago that said there had been 40 fouls and 39 made field goals.

That's uhhhh....not good.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:31 pm

This is one hell of a game. Both teams want this game badly.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:32 pm

These PAC 12 officials?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:34 pm

It sucks that NWG has the ankle go right now.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:36 pm

Nice dig at CSM

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:37 pm

Zags fought hard

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:37 pm

The Zags just fell apart at the end. Congrats Tar Heels

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:38 pm

NWG tried to go hero ball AFTER he twisted his ankle. Dumb

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:38 pm

Mark Few will remember that time out long past this loss

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:38 pm

Merkin wrote:Nice dig at CSM

He's a major tool

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:39 pm

My Tar Heel are Champions.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:39 pm

Refs tried to help Gonzaga but it didn't work. Nice try, maybe in another 10 years.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:40 pm

Gonzaga went 8 mins without a FG

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:40 pm

Merkin wrote:Nice dig at CSM

What a jackass. It really helped Gonzaga too.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:41 pm

F Gonzaga.

That pussy regular season schedule, getting us down Zo and PJC, and having that unbelievably favorable road to the NC game did not deserve to be rewarded w a title. Not after the shit luck we have been through

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