let's talk '18

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:31 pm

Williams' photoshop is the most hilarious shit I have seen all week.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:05 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:We just offered Elijah Weaver, top 50 rated PG. He can play off the ball too. I think Arizona just wants to avoid not having options at the PG spot like these last few years. Williams seems to be on board since he said he intends to help recruit Quentin Grimes.
It's not hard to play 2 pg's together. It might be an issue if both are too small to guard the 2, but if you can find two guys in the 6'1 to 6'3 range, that can work out fine. Like when UNC played Joel Berry and Marcus Paige together.

In this case Williams is 6'1 and Weaver is 6'5. Sounds like we didn't actually offer him, but we did reach out to him. Miller will watch him and decide if an offer is forthcoming.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:57 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:We just offered Elijah Weaver, top 50 rated PG. He can play off the ball too. I think Arizona just wants to avoid not having options at the PG spot like these last few years. Williams seems to be on board since he said he intends to help recruit Quentin Grimes.
It's not hard to play 2 pg's together. It might be an issue if both are too small to guard the 2, but if you can find two guys in the 6'1 to 6'3 range, that can work out fine. Like when UNC played Joel Berry and Marcus Paige together.
In this case Williams is 6'1 and Weaver is 6'5. Sounds like we didn't actually offer him, but we did reach out to him. Miller will watch him and decide if an offer is forthcoming.

This sounds vaguely like when we recruited Justin Simon as a "point guard" option, at least as far a height is concerned. Heck, the taller our other pg is, the better (for D) at least.

I have come to trust Miller to have multiple backup plans in recruiting, and it's nice to see it spilling into the pg realm.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:05 am

If we get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:31 am

gumby wrote:If he get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.

He's got the Wright stuff.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:53 am

gumby wrote:If he get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.

[youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPKKH6OCaE[/youtube]

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:54 am

Fuck it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPKKH6OCaE" target="_blank

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:25 am

gumby wrote:If he get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.

If he joins Taeshon "Cherry" Cherry and Marvin "Gaye" Bagley, we could make some sweet music.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:59 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:If he get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.
If he joins Taeshon "Cherry" Cherry and Marvin "Gaye" Bagley, we could make some sweet music.

Can we go with Taeshon "Neneh" Cherry?

Or for the harder rockers, Taeshon Cherry Pie?

If Elijah is not the best student, perhaps Elijah "Basket" Weaver? Or for the old guys, if he argues with the refs a lot, Elijah "Earl" Weaver?

Or we can just call Elijah "The Prophet"...no one will be offended, right?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:35 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:If he get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.
If he joins Taeshon "Cherry" Cherry and Marvin "Gaye" Bagley, we could make some sweet music.

Just as long as it isn't Taeshon Cassidy.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:58 am

EVCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:If he get him, you heard it hear first: Elijah "Dream" Weaver.
If he joins Taeshon "Cherry" Cherry and Marvin "Gaye" Bagley, we could make some sweet music.
Can we go with Taeshon "Neneh" Cherry?

Or for the harder rockers, Taeshon Cherry Pie?

If Elijah is not the best student, perhaps Elijah "Basket" Weaver? Or for the old guys, if he argues with the refs a lot, Elijah "Earl" Weaver?

Or we can just call Elijah "The Prophet"...no one will be offended, right?

If we're just interested in mediocre pop songs, there's Taeshon "Black Horse in a" Cherry ""Tree."

Weaver was covered, but I am always down with Biblical nicknames. I feel like we really missed the boat on Jesus Verdejo in that department.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:23 pm

Nazreon Reid final 7. 247 has UK at 50% but AZ is warm. 6'10" power forwards, ranked 11th overall

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:49 pm

Jefe wrote:Nazreon Reid final 7. 247 has UK at 50% but AZ is warm. 6'10" power forwards, ranked 11th overall

Hopefully he plays hoops better than he uses photoshop.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:19 pm

I was about to say, we are the best of the photoshops there, so does that mean we are in the lead?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:36 pm

Reid is a beast. Looks like an instant impact player.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:52 pm

Jefe wrote:Nazreon Reid final 7. 247 has UK at 50% but AZ is warm. 6'10" power forwards, ranked 11th overall

We appear to be in front. Of the picture.

Sean Olson · Post by **Sean Olson** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:01 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Jefe wrote:Nazreon Reid final 7. 247 has UK at 50% but AZ is warm. 6'10" power forwards, ranked 11th overall

We appear to be in front. Of the picture.

He wanted to make sure the gradient jersey was fully visible

Post by **UAdevil** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:49 pm

Sevun

1stNGrant Frys · Post by **1stNGrant Frys** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:52 am

billk78 wrote:
Hopefully he plays hoops better than he uses photoshop.

We should start a graphic design business marketing exclusively to AAU ballers. They can pay me .5% of their future salary forever

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:35 pm

Put the chances for landing Reid at slim to none.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:43 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Put the chances for landing Reid at slim to none.

Damn Choo, thanks for pissing on my Wheaties this morning

. Seriously though, glad you told me now before I bought into too much of the hype.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:58 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Put the chances for landing Reid at slim to none.
Damn Choo, thanks for pissing on my Wheaties this morning . Seriously though, glad you told me now before I bought into too much of the hype.

you already know the serious targets my man. Unless Arizona lands Bol Bol, he qualifies for school, then chooses to go to school I wouldn't waste your time thinking of any HS center recruit for this year.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:02 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Put the chances for landing Reid at slim to none.
Damn Choo, thanks for pissing on my Wheaties this morning . Seriously though, glad you told me now before I bought into too much of the hype.
you already know the serious targets my man. Unless Arizona lands Bol Bol, he qualifies for school, then chooses to go to school I wouldn't waste your time thinking of any HS center recruit for this year.

You're right as you've told me before BUT in my defense, Miller is a Witch and it wouldn't surprise me to land a few out of the blue like he's done before....Back to my urine-soaked Wheaties......lol, I remember when Bruce Jenner used to be on the box!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:13 am

Anyone want to help a brother out and explain "Sevun?" I've been seeing this for years and still have no clue what it means.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:17 am

a curse

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:25 am

Background/origin?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:06 am

rgdeuce wrote:Background/origin?

Jason Gardner's uncle wasn't happy with how Arizona treated Jason and said the program would be cursed for sevun years. It became a meme that has lasted longer than sevun years. I'm sure others have a better memory than me about more specific details.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:24 am

his name is UDug

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:56 am

How did AZ treat Gardner?

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:30 pm

rgdeuce wrote:Anyone want to help a brother out and explain "Sevun?" I've been seeing this for years and still have no clue what it means.

From what I can recall, UDUG (Jason Gardener's uncle, UDUG was his screen name) did not like the way Gardner was treated and was bothered that Lute supposedly ran the offense through Walton. So he put a curse on the program for seven (SEVUN as he spelt it) years. Details of this curse were that UofA would not go to any final fours during that SEVUN year period.

He also followed up the curse by listing several African proverbs as posts. I think my favorite was something along the lines of "A fool is thirsty in the midst of water."

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:50 am

ok thank you for the explanations

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:32 am

Yeah, think his name was Don. Called Jason "The Shepherd of the Court." Had a website with that name. Along with the Walton stuff, he was none too pleased with posters, including Gershon and Hansen, saying Luke Ridnour was the top PG in the conference.

Then it became a thing to praise Ridnour just to get a rise out of him. I'm thinking he doesn't like the name Luke.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:20 pm

My message board UofA obsession came just after the Sevun curse. The drama sessions (that I remember most) were Withey's mom, was it Buddinger's strength coach? & the Jerryd Bayless memes. Then of course the old site debacle...and a little later Arcadia Tavern, etc...

(edit - sorry about the hijack - wrong spot for sure)

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:33 pm

Bear Down Vegas wrote:My message board UofA obsession came just after the Sevun curse. The drama sessions (that I remember most) were Withey's mom, was it Buddinger's strength coach? & the Jerryd Bayless memes. Then of course the old site debacle...and a little later Arcadia Tavern, etc...

(edit - sorry about the hijack - wrong spot for sure)

Thanks for those, BD! What was the strength coach's name? He was a UCLA alumnus. He was so pro U of A that it rubbed Immel - an Arizona alumnus - the wrong way. Then he became Alex Jacobsen's strength coach, and got all sore about any discussions we had about the limitations of Jacobsen as a three-star recruit.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:59 pm

Trent Suzuki. Good times.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:24 pm

gumby wrote:Trent Suzuki. Good times.

Dosia · Post by **Dosia** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:43 am

gumby wrote:Trent Suzuki. Good times.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89692" target="_blank

That gave me a laugh.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:51 am

Dosia wrote:
gumby wrote:Trent Suzuki. Good times.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89692" target="_blank

That gave me a laugh.

Wow

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:05 pm

I only met TS a couple of times. But in those instances, he strutted and talked as big as, as "Mystery Science Theater 3000" once described Pernell Roberts, a "balding cock-of-the-walk."

Worst part was that he was on the bench during games during the final Lute years as well as direct access to Budinger, Hill and other players in the S & C program. Lute trusted people at this time who, in retrospect, took advantage of him.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:44 am

Taeshon Cherry will be announcing his commitment on June 30, but it sounds like it'll be to a school not named Arizona.

A1RZONA · Post by **A1RZONA** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:24 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Taeshon Cherry will be announcing his commitment on June 30, but it sounds like it'll be to a school not named Arizona.

heard it changed very recently from arizona, as well. must love southern california alot...

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:11 pm

A1RZONA wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Taeshon Cherry will be announcing his commitment on June 30, but it sounds like it'll be to a school not named Arizona.
heard it changed very recently from arizona, as well. must love southern california alot...

Sucks.

At least he plays the wing position, which is a spot that players grow on trees. Arizona will land somebody capable.

Fwiw though it's always hard for me to stomach a guy that has real actual options choosing to play basketball at USC.

TFCATFAN · Post by **TFCATFAN** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:54 am

Longhorned wrote:
gumby wrote:Trent Suzuki. Good times.

I never get why guys like this never get asked how they can be such great trainers and still look so out of shape. Its like Gene Simmons selling slim down videos for decades...dude, you're kinda flabby.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:02 am

TFCATFAN wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
gumby wrote:Trent Suzuki. Good times.

I never get why guys like this never get asked how they can be such great trainers and still look so out of shape. Its like Gene Simmons selling slim down videos for decades...dude, you're kinda flabby.

My bigger question would be why anyone is screwing around with an arm blasting workout if you're training for sports? Curls have exactly zero effect on athletic performance.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:03 am

That happens to a lot of body builders as they age (See Arnold, Ronnie Coleman, etc). Their metabolism slows down yet they still eat like they did in the youth, when it all turned into freakish muscle. They are still stronger and in better cardiovascular shape than most men.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:09 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
My bigger question would be why anyone is screwing around with an arm blasting workout if you're training for sports? Curls have exactly zero effect on athletic performance.

Worst case, you need biceps strength as a balance to your triceps, just like it is important to have a strong back to go with your barrel chest. You risk injury without that balance, and it is important for the health of the elbow too.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:21 am

rgdeuce wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
My bigger question would be why anyone is screwing around with an arm blasting workout if you're training for sports? Curls have exactly zero effect on athletic performance.
Worst case, you need biceps strength as a balance to your triceps, just like it is important to have a strong back to go with your barrel chest. You risk injury without that balance, and it is important for the health of the elbow too.

I'm probably dogmatic bc I do a fair amount of programming as a hobby, but for an athlete, I would never be programming a single joint movement for arms. Pullups with palms in will give plenty of biceps strength for athletic purposes while involving back and stability.

Like I said, I'm probably dogmatic, but I'd be going with pullups and close/neutral grip bench all day for an athlete. Curls and pressdowns are inefficient in terms of developing the muscles that will benefit an athlete.

A1RZONA · Post by **A1RZONA** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:45 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
A1RZONA wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Taeshon Cherry will be announcing his commitment on June 30, but it sounds like it'll be to a school not named Arizona.
heard it changed very recently from arizona, as well. must love southern california alot...
Sucks.

At least he plays the wing position, which is a spot that players grow on trees. Arizona will land somebody capable.

Fwiw though it's always hard for me to stomach a guy that has real actual options choosing to play basketball at USC.

right!?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:53 pm

Looking at his tweets it is all UA, UO, GU and SDSU fans. No USC fans in sight

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:41 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Primary targets at the moment:

Shareef O'Neal (commit)
Brandon Williams (commit)
Marvin Bagley
Taeshon Cherry
Gerald Liddell
Quentin Grimes
Bol Bol
Nice list Choo, thanks! Care to add any probabilities to these names as well? I'm greedy

Thanks in advance, Bear Down.
Marvin Bagley - Arizona, UCLA, Kentucky, Overseas. Overseas is ahead of the pack by a wide margin at the moment. I think shoe companies will have a major impact on what his ultimate decision is.
Taeshon Cherry - Arizona, Oregon, USC, maybe A&M. Not sure on this one, he'd be a back up year one if Akot returns, which is likely IMO. Arizona was the first on him and he's real right with both O'Neal and Williams and loves Romar. I think we have the most working for us in this one, but it'll come down to his priority. Oregon probably has a starting spot available and he's tight with Miles Norris. We'll see.
Gerald Liddell - Born in Tucson and loves U of A. I think Arizona slowplays him a bit and sees how the Cherry recruitment evolves. I think if Arizona pushes for him we get him.
Quentin Grimes - He's from Texas. I never feel good about Texas kids unless they have ties to Arizona like Liddell. Uphill battle for sure, my money is on Kansas.
Bol Bol - Arizona, Kentucky, Overseas. Arizona in a good spot, but I have no idea if he can even get into college or if he prefers overseas or not.

It's still way early, no need to fret on any of this.

Bringing this up as things look to have changed from a few weeks ago......I noticed at the time that Quinnerly wasn't on your list but didn't bring it up:

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruitin ... oint-guard

With some rumors that Cherry isn't looking good for us, any thoughts or probabilities on Jahvon Quinnerly? Interesting quote from the article:

"... Quinerly doesn’t have any more visits lined up yet, though he said he’s working on it.

I’ve heard Miller is pushing hard to get a commitment from the five-star guard before any more visits occur.

Since Quinerly’s visit to Tucson, six Crystal Ball predictions project he’ll join the Arizona Wildcats......"

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