Utah @ Arizona discussion thread

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:08 pm

chiefzona wrote:How about this: Name 3 reasons why, on the field, that Arizona wins this game.

How about this: Name 3 reasons why, on the field (where else? - duh), Utah wins this game ... and Arizona doesn't.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:23 pm

So Utah got our MLB who has had a bunch of knee injuries. Can't remember his name. Anyone know if he is playing for them and if so, how has he done?

Have to wonder how much of an impact he may have on this game scouting wise, signal call wise or just in general?

As for Chiefs question, here is 3

1) Home field advantage which counts for something
2) Dawkins might have a Washington type game as we change our throws to those he can complete
3) Our defense will get just enough stops to allow our offense to have an advantage

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:46 pm

Plus this will be Tyler Huntley's first PAC start and it comes on the road.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:13 pm

azcat49 wrote:So Utah got our MLB who has had a bunch of knee injuries. Can't remember his name. Anyone know if he is playing for them and if so, how has he done?

Looks like very minimal playing time, not even sure he got into the first 2 games.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/pl ... y-ippolito" target="_blank

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:00 pm

So sad, the pining for just six wins! Another trip to Albuquerque! I just hope to gawd that won't save the clown in charge.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:06 pm

azcat49 wrote:So Utah got our MLB who has had a bunch of knee injuries. Can't remember his name. Anyone know if he is playing for them and if so, how has he done?

Have to wonder how much of an impact he may have on this game scouting wise, signal call wise or just in general?

Cody Ippolito. He's got one tackle this year.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:08 pm

Thx, you guys are the best. Sounds like he has not done much. Maybe he should have just hung up the cleats

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:14 pm

Dudes knees are gonna be screaming for life unfortunately. The games are intoxicating though.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:56 am

Utah 31
Arizona 24

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:33 am

https://athlonsports.com/college-footba ... ction-2017" target="_blank

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:01 am

azpenguin wrote:
azcat49 wrote:So Utah got our MLB who has had a bunch of knee injuries. Can't remember his name. Anyone know if he is playing for them and if so, how has he done?

Have to wonder how much of an impact he may have on this game scouting wise, signal call wise or just in general?

Cody Ippolito. He's got one tackle this year.

Three ACL tears for Ippolito UA career. Although he's infamously known for the sideline fight between him and teammate Tevin Wood during RR's first yr in NM Bowl. Both were sent locker room during the game and then were sent home with their parents.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:11 am

http://allsportstucson.com/2017/09/19/a ... oportions/" target="_blank

Arizona historically has started behind the pack in the Pac-12 race for the Rose Bowl, struggling in a majority of openers since 1995.

Go figure the Wildcats are still in search of that ever elusive Rose Bowl trip.

Utah (3-0) plays at Arizona (2-1) on Friday in the Pac-12 opener for both teams. It is Arizona’s fourth consecutive Pac-12 opener at home under Rich Rodriguez. The last time Arizona started conference play on the road was at rain-soaked Seattle in a 31-13 loss to Washington in 2013.

Since 1995, Arizona is 5-16 in conference openers.

Utah comes to Tucson with a No. 23 ranking.

The Wildcats against ranked opponents in conference openers?

They are, gulp, 0-12, including losses in five out of the last six seasons to No. 9 Washington last year (35-28 in overtime), No. 9 UCLA in 2015 (56-30), at No. 16 Washington in 2013 (31-13), at No. 3 Oregon in 2012 (49-0) and No. 6 Stanford in 2011 (37-10).

Going back to 1992, the Wildcats are a dismal 2-11 at Arizona Stadium in Pac-12 openers. The record should really be 1-12 in that span if not for Anu Solomon’s “Hill Mary” pass to Austin Hill in the 2014 Pac-12 opener against Cal at Arizona Stadium.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:20 am

Merkin wrote:http://allsportstucson.com/2017/09/19/a ... oportions/

Arizona historically has started behind the pack in the Pac-12 race for the Rose Bowl, struggling in a majority of openers since 1995.

Go figure the Wildcats are still in search of that ever elusive Rose Bowl trip.

Utah (3-0) plays at Arizona (2-1) on Friday in the Pac-12 opener for both teams. It is Arizona’s fourth consecutive Pac-12 opener at home under Rich Rodriguez. The last time Arizona started conference play on the road was at rain-soaked Seattle in a 31-13 loss to Washington in 2013.

Since 1995, Arizona is 5-16 in conference openers.

Utah comes to Tucson with a No. 23 ranking.

The Wildcats against ranked opponents in conference openers?

They are, gulp, 0-12, including losses in five out of the last six seasons to No. 9 Washington last year (35-28 in overtime), No. 9 UCLA in 2015 (56-30), at No. 16 Washington in 2013 (31-13), at No. 3 Oregon in 2012 (49-0) and No. 6 Stanford in 2011 (37-10).

Going back to 1992, the Wildcats are a dismal 2-11 at Arizona Stadium in Pac-12 openers. The record should really be 1-12 in that span if not for Anu Solomon’s “Hill Mary” pass to Austin Hill in the 2014 Pac-12 opener against Cal at Arizona Stadium.

Arizona is a basketball school, first and foremost. Nothing will ever change that. It is what it is.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:35 am

Merkin wrote:http://allsportstucson.com/2017/09/19/a ... oportions/

Arizona historically has started behind the pack in the Pac-12 race for the Rose Bowl, struggling in a majority of openers since 1995.

Go figure the Wildcats are still in search of that ever elusive Rose Bowl trip.

Utah (3-0) plays at Arizona (2-1) on Friday in the Pac-12 opener for both teams. It is Arizona’s fourth consecutive Pac-12 opener at home under Rich Rodriguez. The last time Arizona started conference play on the road was at rain-soaked Seattle in a 31-13 loss to Washington in 2013.

Since 1995, Arizona is 5-16 in conference openers.

Utah comes to Tucson with a No. 23 ranking.

The Wildcats against ranked opponents in conference openers?

They are, gulp, 0-12, including losses in five out of the last six seasons to No. 9 Washington last year (35-28 in overtime), No. 9 UCLA in 2015 (56-30), at No. 16 Washington in 2013 (31-13), at No. 3 Oregon in 2012 (49-0) and No. 6 Stanford in 2011 (37-10).

Going back to 1992, the Wildcats are a dismal 2-11 at Arizona Stadium in Pac-12 openers. The record should really be 1-12 in that span if not for Anu Solomon’s “Hill Mary” pass to Austin Hill in the 2014 Pac-12 opener against Cal at Arizona Stadium.

Javier once said that you LOSE money betting on Arizona in basketball even if U of A wins the bet. All credibility went out the window with that tweet.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:13 am

lol wut?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:15 am

chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:http://allsportstucson.com/2017/09/19/a ... oportions/

Arizona historically has started behind the pack in the Pac-12 race for the Rose Bowl, struggling in a majority of openers since 1995.

Go figure the Wildcats are still in search of that ever elusive Rose Bowl trip.

Utah (3-0) plays at Arizona (2-1) on Friday in the Pac-12 opener for both teams. It is Arizona’s fourth consecutive Pac-12 opener at home under Rich Rodriguez. The last time Arizona started conference play on the road was at rain-soaked Seattle in a 31-13 loss to Washington in 2013.

Since 1995, Arizona is 5-16 in conference openers.

Utah comes to Tucson with a No. 23 ranking.

The Wildcats against ranked opponents in conference openers?

They are, gulp, 0-12, including losses in five out of the last six seasons to No. 9 Washington last year (35-28 in overtime), No. 9 UCLA in 2015 (56-30), at No. 16 Washington in 2013 (31-13), at No. 3 Oregon in 2012 (49-0) and No. 6 Stanford in 2011 (37-10).

Going back to 1992, the Wildcats are a dismal 2-11 at Arizona Stadium in Pac-12 openers. The record should really be 1-12 in that span if not for Anu Solomon’s “Hill Mary” pass to Austin Hill in the 2014 Pac-12 opener against Cal at Arizona Stadium.
Arizona is a basketball school, first and foremost. Nothing will ever change that. It is what it is.

Absolutely the best post you have ever made

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:22 pm

CatinVA · Post by **CatinVA** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:04 pm

I think it pretty much comes down to 1) Can the passing game be at least moderately respectable and 2) Can the defense limit the big plays. If those 2 things happen, I think we have at least a decent chance. If not, about the same chance as a snowball in hell.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:36 am

azcat49 wrote:So Utah got our MLB who has had a bunch of knee injuries. Can't remember his name. Anyone know if he is playing for them and if so, how has he done?

Have to wonder how much of an impact he may have on this game scouting wise, signal call wise or just in general?

As for Chiefs question, here is 3

1) Home field advantage which counts for something
2) Dawkins might have a Washington type game as we change our throws to those he can complete
3) Our defense will get just enough stops to allow our offense to have an advantage

Nice! I'll take a shot.
1.) Run Tilford up the middle and get JJ in fucking space
2.) Dawk shows us all that the Houston game was a fluke
3.) Our D keeps playing with it's hair on fire

Bear Down

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:05 pm

I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:27 pm

chiefzona wrote:I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.

Will you admit you were wrong if the Cats win or will you just hide for a while like the majority of the 2014 season?

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:53 pm

chiefzona wrote:I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.

Could happen if Dawk is on!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:16 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.
Will you admit you were wrong if the Cats win or will you just hide for a while like the majority of the 2014 season?

I didn't disappear. I was on the other board.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:17 pm

Sid wrote:
chiefzona wrote:I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.
Could happen if Dawk is on!

I see what you did there.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:27 pm

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:43 pm

azgreg wrote:

The didn't list the most important.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:54 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:

The didn't list the most important.

So........my question to you would be, was what you posted helpful or hurtful?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:01 pm

Sid wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:

The didn't list the most important.
So........my question to you would be, was what you posted helpful or hurtful?

Neither, it was typical.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:34 pm

Did chief pull a hammy?

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:43 pm

Sadly we have to play a game of who exactly knows what here.

Six calls. 6/6 straight up for Utah. 6/6 against the spread for Utah.

So what gives? Feels like someone is going to be really, really, really wrong in this game as far as the spread goes.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ch-online/" target="_blank

I have a feeling I know who is going to be really, really, really wrong. But it seems like as soon as I feel that way 50% (or more, honestly) of my bets go sideways.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:03 pm

game thread is up folks. meant to get it up a little sooner, but hey, at least it was up the day before the game

are we doing prediction threads anymore? those used to be their own separate thing, apart from the discussion thread. or maybe i'm just misremembering.

anyhoo. my prediction is utah 38, cats 24

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:16 pm

Sid wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:

The didn't list the most important.
So........my question to you would be, was what you posted helpful or hurtful?

Truthful.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:17 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Did chief pull a hammy?

No kidding, I am lost. Who is out?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:51 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.
Will you admit you were wrong if the Cats win or will you just hide for a while like the majority of the 2014 season?

You have some cajones, Machina. You are wrong more than a broken clock and I don't ever recall you owning the ridiculous shit you have posted here.

Whether it is your sycophantic devotion to RR (who had had 1 really good season in 5 tries (along with 2 awful)... to your never ending condemnation of our fanbase... to your unhealthy disregard for Sean Miller (who has been wildly successful and an exceptional ambassador for our University).

You are a little man who is threatened by winners and relates to mediocrity. Don't go calling out anyone.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:23 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:I hope this one doesn't quickly get out of hand.
Will you admit you were wrong if the Cats win or will you just hide for a while like the majority of the 2014 season?
You have some cajones, Machina. You are wrong more than a broken clock and I don't ever recall you owning the ridiculous shit you have posted here.

Whether it is your sycophantic devotion to RR (who had had 1 really good season in 5 tries (along with 2 awful)... to your never ending condemnation of our fanbase... to your unhealthy disregard for Sean Miller (who has been wildly successful and an exceptional ambassador for our University).

You are a little man who is threatened by winners and relates to mediocrity. Don't go calling out anyone.

There is still a difference between "cajones" and "cojones". Does Machina really have big boxes?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:02 am

azcat49 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Did chief pull a hammy?
No kidding, I am lost. Who is out?

You'll have to read his blog.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:27 am

azgreg wrote:
azcat49 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Did chief pull a hammy?
No kidding, I am lost. Who is out?
You'll have to read his blog.

No blog just Twittersphere.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:31 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:15 pm

^ good example of how hard the numbers, names and so on will be hard to see on TV, although that lighting is pretty dim.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:16 pm

Those helmets are badass - especially the block A. Are they black, or the darkest navy blue ever. They look black to me. I like 'em either way.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:26 pm

BearDown89 wrote:Those helmets are badass - especially the block A. Are they black, or the darkest navy blue ever. They look black to me. I like 'em either way.

Matte blue.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:15 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
I mean we're pretty much a high school program at this point so it makes sense.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:16 pm

azcat49 wrote:Free's up Saturday to watch some real football

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:24 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Did chief pull a hammy?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:25 pm

BearDown89 wrote:Those helmets are badass - especially the block A. Are they black, or the darkest navy blue ever. They look black to me. I like 'em either way.

I'm not 100% sold and want to see how they look on the field, but I like the idea. In terms of our adventurous helmets, it is way better than copper and ahead of the red chrome. Hopefully the red stands out when they're under the lights.

Is it wrong that I see this game as the probable tipping point of RR's tenure here? A W and things can be ok. A bad L and the gallows start looming.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:43 pm

BearDown89 wrote:Those helmets are badass - especially the block A. Are they black, or the darkest navy blue ever. They look black to me. I like 'em either way.

Best lid we've seen in years. A black one would be even better!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:24 pm

Line now at -4.5

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:09 am

chiefzona wrote:Utah 31
Arizona 24

Not bad. Well, not much to say but....RR is what I thought he was. Always has been. Reboot....haha More like get the boot.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:42 am

scumdevils86 wrote:35-24 'tah

I didn't do too bad either. Normally I suck at predicting scores.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:08 am

MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:How about this: Name 3 reasons why, on the field, that Arizona wins this game.
How about this: Name 3 reasons why, on the field (where else? - duh), Utah wins this game ... and Arizona doesn't.

1. Dawkins
2. Dawkins
3. Dawkins

In his last year, RR might as well skip over all the running backs he forces behind center, and start little Rod the rest of the way.

Rhett gets to realize the dream of playing for his dad, RR maybe leaves the new coach with a QB that can do a QB's job like pass the damn ball!!

RR can retire permanently from coaching, hang around Tucson till his kids graduate and then buy a modest house in WV.

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