General Malaise and Complaining about the Football Program

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:35 pm

Most coaches would give their left nut to coach in the sec and get creamed by Alabama every year rather than coach Arizona.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:58 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:The plan is in place...

Chicat wrote:When we come back from Boulder with a record of 2-3, then he gets the axe. Let the kids rally around the interim coach for the UCLA game and start the coaching search for real.

Please tell us all how you disagree or agree....

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:10 pm

Chi, he has no clue. Hell he is the Brandon Dawkins of the internet, just throw up shit and hope someone catches it and runs with it

TheBuffet · Post by **TheBuffet** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:38 pm

Don't let two Friday night appearances distract you from the fact we are 0-2 against real D1 football teams.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:27 pm

Maybe Arizona can get Mark Stroops.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:29 pm

Mike Norvell

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:51 am

Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:The plan is in place...

Chicat wrote:When we come back from Boulder with a record of 2-3, then he gets the axe. Let the kids rally around the interim coach for the UCLA game and start the coaching search for real.

Please tell us all how you disagree or agree....

I completely disagree.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:52 am

azcat49 wrote:Mike Norvell

No thanks.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:52 am

OSUCat wrote:Maybe Arizona can get Mark Stroops.

Pass

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:55 am

chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:The plan is in place...

Chicat wrote:When we come back from Boulder with a record of 2-3, then he gets the axe. Let the kids rally around the interim coach for the UCLA game and start the coaching search for real.

Please tell us all how you disagree or agree....
I completely disagree.

Your reading comprehension needs work.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:28 am

ChiCat- You said "The plan is in place". I disagree with that. It's garbage and unsubstantiated.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:40 am

chiefzona wrote:
OSUCat wrote:Maybe Arizona can get Mark Stroops.
Pass

It was made in jest.

FlyonWall · Post by **FlyonWall** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:18 pm

Maybe this is like the play the Music Man and RR is Professor Hill who has come to town promising us our kids would make a great band (with his help), and sells us uniforms, instruments and indoor practice facilities. Then when the town people demand "where is the band", because you know Professor Hill was not really a professor but really a flim flam man who was captured trying to escape to another town to sell his promise at his next stop, the kids come out and play and the parents are so proud (even though the band sounds terrible). Except in this story the town people are not so easily impressed and notice little Johnny's trombone sounds terrible and he seems poorly trained. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Music_Man_(1962_film)

Macho Grande · Post by **Macho Grande** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:30 pm

Wonder if we'd have a shot at Chad Morris. He's done a good job of getting SMU to not suck. He probably ends up at aTm or Arkansas though.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:00 pm

chiefzona wrote:ChiCat- You said "The plan is in place". I disagree with that. It's garbage and unsubstantiated.

In other words I went wading in the dumpster you call home.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:17 pm

Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:ChiCat- You said "The plan is in place". I disagree with that. It's garbage and unsubstantiated.
In other words I went wading in the dumpster you call home.

Oh ok. Sounds good. Let's just go with that then. Wading in the denial river feels good.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:04 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Most coaches would give their left nut to coach in the sec and get creamed by Alabama every year rather than coach Arizona.

Lol this is so far from reality it's hilarious.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:25 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Most coaches would give their left nut to coach in the sec and get creamed by Alabama every year rather than coach Arizona.
Lol this is so far from reality it's hilarious.

i was just going to quote and respond as well -- as far from reality as it is, its par for the course for this particular poster, whos completely out of touch.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:35 am

Macho Grande wrote:Wonder if we'd have a shot at Chad Morris. He's done a good job of getting SMU to not suck. He probably ends up at aTm or Arkansas though.

I think he might be poised for a big job.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:01 am

chiefzona wrote:
Macho Grande wrote:Wonder if we'd have a shot at Chad Morris. He's done a good job of getting SMU to not suck. He probably ends up at aTm or Arkansas though.

I think he might be poised for a big job.

Damn, I agree with you on something

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:46 am

First time I've turned off a Cats game without it being a blowout. And even then, I've watched my share of blowouts.

Just don't care much anymore. This team continues to find new ways to be bad, and until we get a new injection of life into this program, it's only going to get worse and worse.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:59 am

qwertyus wrote:First time I've turned off a Cats game without it being a blowout. And even then, I've watched my share of blowouts.

Just don't care much anymore. This team continues to find new ways to be bad, and until we get a new injection of life into this program, it's only going to get worse and worse.

I watched the first half then went out to dinner with the wife and ate tapas. Didn't have a moments hesitation to stay and watch and get take out. Wife would've been fine either way.

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:03 pm

It'll just take one win over the next 3 games to breathe hope back. Win two out of next three and Fire RR narrative could slant other way. The bar is that low. Lose all three and lose to Cal (I'm not sure they're as bad as advertised) and that could be the end of RR. IF UA were to make a move you'd think they would do by then. IF UA has decided they're going another direction they would want to to it before RR could possibly win a game (Oregon St) and do it two months ahead of signing period. Let the verbals decide to stay or go.

Sell new coach on the new upgrades and talent, true freshman performing well (future roster)

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:44 pm

Love your optimism Razor but I can't see us winning any of those 3. UCLA is bad but they have betters players. Hell all of those team do. Maybe the bruins will have quit by then but they always seem to be up for us.

I think Q and CST said it best, there is just great apathy around the program. No one cares as seen by the woeful attendance numbers. Losing used to sting for me but right now its no big deal and that is an issue.

Only real game I want to see is Wazzu They outright embarrassed us (69-7) and I would like to see us upset them. Not sue we can but it is at home and we should eb highly motivated.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:17 pm

That is an issue Azcat49! I hate losing, but right now it doesn't matter. I want that feeling again. I want to feel the joy of hanging house game day flag and sadness in taking it down after a loss on Sunday. Right now I'm just going through the superstitious motions.

For me that realization is probably one of the saddest parts of where we are at.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Merkin wrote:Like Hansen said, this is the lowest attended home conference opener since the WAC days. That's good enough reason right there to fire him when the university and city have lost faith in the program.

1Q

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:22 pm

Anyone curious how Yates might do with the team if RR gets the boot? In general I think he's done an admirable job with the D, despite the bend but don't break shit which drives me nuts. He doesn't talk to the media all that much but when he does, I like what he has to say.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:55 pm

threenumberones wrote:Anyone curious how Yates might do with the team if RR gets the boot? In general I think he's done an admirable job with the D, despite the bend but don't break shit which drives me nuts. He doesn't talk to the media all that much but when he does, I like what he has to say.

I'm totally down with Yates at this point. Think the D looks great comparatively speaking . . .

3rdand25 · Post by **3rdand25** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:00 pm

One of the most overrated things that a coach can do is "win the press conference". I could care less how the pretentious elite and media perceive a coach's media performance (not saying anyone here fits that bill)

If a coach can connect with players (key to recruiting obviously) and can connect with the average football fan, you're in a better place than you are today. Players and fans see right thru a bullshitter, but for whatever reason, elites either don't, or can't believe that the unsophisticated can discern the bs.

So I wouldn't undersell ideas like Marcel Yates, or Chuck Cecil, etc. Being a little rough around the edges (look at a Nick Saban press conference, not exactly smooth) but being genuine might be an asset at AZ.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:09 pm

97cats wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Most coaches would give their left nut to coach in the sec and get creamed by Alabama every year rather than coach Arizona.
Lol this is so far from reality it's hilarious.
i was just going to quote and respond as well -- as far from reality as it is, its par for the course for this particular poster, whos completely out of touch.

Hi 97, '.....for this particular poster, whos completely out of touch, childish, rude and extremely obnoxious.' There, I fixed it for you

.

Bear Down.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:22 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Most coaches would give their left nut to coach in the sec and get creamed by Alabama every year rather than coach Arizona.
Lol this is so far from reality it's hilarious.

I'm sorry you don't understand college sports in 2017. It's reality. Gotta take off your cardinal and navy glasses at some point and realize that's how shit works. Name 1 legit reason (no not ones that I'd laugh you out of the room for, legit ones) why a coach would rather coach at Arizona than in the sec. I'll be waiting for years for a real answer for this one.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:02 pm

Curious, does the sudden basketball news create a situation where RR is safe this year because the AD and staff having to stay on top of basketball program investigation?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:05 pm

OSUCat wrote:Curious, does the sudden basketball news create a situation where RR is safe this year because the AD and staff having to stay on top of basketball program investigation?

I think it would be hard for Heeke to make a move when the breadwinner program is mired in scandal. I think RR coaches out the year. Who would even notice?

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:08 pm

Chicat wrote:
OSUCat wrote:Curious, does the sudden basketball news create a situation where RR is safe this year because the AD and staff having to stay on top of basketball program investigation?
I think it would be hard for Heeke to make a move when the breadwinner program is mired in scandal. I think RR coaches out the year. Who would even notice?

Hell, he might even beat Graham and ASU in the Dead End Bowl. That might merit notice.

Otherwise, RR's not a blip on anyone's radar, sorry to say for him.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:14 pm

This whole thing has saved RRs job. Since the entire basketball program is a question mark we don't have the leeway financially to go looking for a new football coach and to pay buyouts. RR is here for a while now.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:16 pm

Oh yea. Amazing how 2 days have made me completely forget we play football.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:36 pm

North Korea will nuke and RR will somehow survive and continue on.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:29 am

ASUHATER! wrote:This whole thing has saved RRs job. Since the entire basketball program is a question mark we don't have the leeway financially to go looking for a new football coach and to pay buyouts. RR is here for a while now.

That's what I was thinking. Too much uncertainty to shit can him.

RR is the last thing on Heeke's mind now.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:03 am

Thinking Rich has received a few calls/texts the last 48 hrs from his circle of coaching friends. Also thinking what was communicated was something like "man you got a job" Scarface scene after Frank gets iced.

The irony.....

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:38 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Most coaches would give their left nut to coach in the sec and get creamed by Alabama every year rather than coach Arizona.
Lol this is so far from reality it's hilarious.
I'm sorry you don't understand college sports in 2017. It's reality. Gotta take off your cardinal and navy glasses at some point and realize that's how shit works. Name 1 legit reason (no not ones that I'd laugh you out of the room for, legit ones) why a coach would rather coach at Arizona than in the sec. I'll be waiting for years for a real answer for this one.

Easier to win in the PAC12 south than SEC West especially but also SEC East

Closer to home

Weather

Less pressure

Family

Culture

Quality of life

I just gave you seven tough guy.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:58 am

Even though the PAC splits BB tourney and CFB bowl money (after expenses), it's going to hurt the AD to lose Arizona's share of tourney money. Bowl money is no big deal, as UA generally only goes to money losing bowls.

So I would think just the opposite, that Heeke is looking at revitalizing the football program to bring people back into the stands, and that can only be done with RichRod gone.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:14 am

I think a mid season firing is less likely but this has 0 impact on the likelihood of a change for the 2018 season

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:15 am

If anything, Heeke could fire RR today and hardly anyone would notice

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:30 am

Merkin wrote:Even though the PAC splits BB tourney and CFB bowl money (after expenses), it's going to hurt the AD to lose Arizona's share of tourney money. Bowl money is no big deal, as UA generally only goes to money losing bowls.

So I would think just the opposite, that Heeke is looking at revitalizing the football program to bring people back into the stands, and that can only be done with RichRod gone.

This is good thinking. Let's hope Heeke is a good thinker.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:45 am

I don't think that this Miller fiasco has any bearing on Heeke's decision on RR. If anything, it might exacerbate it.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:04 am

Heard a freshman got arrested. Just add this to the list

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:05 am

chiefzona wrote:Heard a freshman got arrested. Just add this to the list

Who?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:13 am

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Heard a freshman got arrested. Just add this to the list
Who?

Big name. Starter.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:35 am

chiefzona wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Heard a freshman got arrested. Just add this to the list
Who?

Big name. Starter.

So give up the name or shut up

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:05 am

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Heard a freshman got arrested. Just add this to the list
Who?

Big name. Starter.
So give up the name or shut up

If the name isn't publicly released, I wouldn't expect Chief to be the first to say it. Just let it play out

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