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MrBug708 wrote:The word on DG is June 30th, 2019 is retirement day. His pension would be over a million a year for the UC system on that date
Does he get to keep the garbage can?azgreg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:The word on DG is June 30th, 2019 is retirement day. His pension would be over a million a year for the UC system on that date
I don’t know the actuarial ins and outs of CALPERS, but he’s paid into it at a certain level, his institution has matched at that level, so it’s funded to pay at that level. He’s not ripping off the state pension system.azcat49 wrote:MrBug708 wrote:The word on DG is June 30th, 2019 is retirement day. His pension would be over a million a year for the UC system on that date
That is rediculous. To guarantee him a million a year would cost 20 to 30 million to fund that annuity payment.
azgreg wrote:My brother was a guard at Folsom prison for 28 years. When he retired he got a check for $12,000 and receives $3500 a month.
AZ has a separate public safety pension plan. UAPD is on it, while the rest are on ASRS.Merkin wrote:azgreg wrote:My brother was a guard at Folsom prison for 28 years. When he retired he got a check for $12,000 and receives $3500 a month.
Safety officers have a very generous pension system here, and probably most places.
Deservedly so too.
Could not pay me enough to work there as a guard.
One of my coworkers' husbands was a plumber at the CMC (California Men's Colony). He is retired and also makes bank.
Now he has the chance.MrBug708 wrote:@jasonrmcintyre
Jim Mora's supposedly worried about the perception of being fired in the NFL AND dumped by UCLA. What would his future be? Word on the LA streets: He's open to leaving UCLA to take a lesser D1 job
Bruins01 wrote:Fucking this up would be the most UCLA thing in history.
Haha fucking hell. Just kill me...SCCats wrote:Bruins01 wrote:Fucking this up would be the most UCLA thing in history.
Sumlin is going to fired after going 51-25 in his OOC and SEC career at A and M. Perhaps UCLA can pick him up once they finish fucking this up???
It is a big mistake, Winning the TCUP over Arizona, Finishing the season with a winning record and conference record. Finish second place in the south and they fired him because he wasn't winning enough. ASU AD is a joke.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:This is very controversial decision by Ray Anderson. Many ASU fans, myself included, think this was a very big mistake.
Because you look at the whole picture and consider the long game. Building ASU football to be more than mediocre is a decade long process, at least. Graham was someone invested in building ASU. You are looking at 3 years. Why not look at the whole picture? The '15 season was the only real failure. '16 was always aligning to be a shit show. This season was a clear indication of an upward trajectory. Started 1-2, then beats Oregon for the first time in a decade, goes on to have wins over a then #5 UW, and went on the road the following week in what is normally a trap game and dominates Utah.AZarchery wrote:I wish ASU would have kept graham, to keep their program mediocre forever. He was 18-19 over the last 3 years with only his recruits. Why would you want to keep that?
I think this has very little to do with fan opinions. Ray Anderson has wanted his own guy for a few years now. Seems almost personal for him. Ray Anderson has been polling the big $ boosters for the last 18 months throwing out potential names to see who moved the needle. I can't remember the last time a football coach firing was this unpopular with a significant number of fans. The casual fans are mostly ok with it. The tied in fans are overwhelmingly against this move. When they fired Erickson, Koetter, and Snyder even there was very little fan pushback. This is very different.azcat49 wrote:Scummy, is this the result of the anti Grahams being louder than those who supported him. It seems to me that more wanted him out than those that wanted to retain him but maybe they were just louder
Which proves how dumb ASU fans areScummy Dick Douglas wrote:I think this has very little to do with fan opinions. Ray Anderson has wanted his own guy for a few years now. Seems almost personal for him. Ray Anderson has been polling the big $ boosters for the last 18 months throwing out potential names to see who moved the needle. I can't remember the last time a football coach firing was this unpopular with a significant number of fans. The casual fans are mostly ok with it. The tied in fans are overwhelmingly against this move. When they fired Erickson, Koetter, and Snyder even there was very little fan pushback. This is very different.azcat49 wrote:Scummy, is this the result of the anti Grahams being louder than those who supported him. It seems to me that more wanted him out than those that wanted to retain him but maybe they were just louder
cordera89 wrote:It is a big mistake, Winning the TCUP over Arizona, Finishing the season with a winning record and conference record. Finish second place in the south and they fired him because he wasn't winning enough. ASU AD is a joke.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:This is very controversial decision by Ray Anderson. Many ASU fans, myself included, think this was a very big mistake.
If Arizona want play the same game. Arizona AD will also be a fucking joke.
ASU was pick to finish 5th in the south. Finish Second Places.
UA was pick to finish 6th in the south. Finish Third Places.
Unrealistic Expectation are killing football program.
My understanding is that Graham was actually told prior to the season he would need to go 7-5 to keep his job. I think that bar was set with the belief that there was no way he would get there.CatsbyAZ wrote:cordera89 wrote:It is a big mistake, Winning the TCUP over Arizona, Finishing the season with a winning record and conference record. Finish second place in the south and they fired him because he wasn't winning enough. ASU AD is a joke.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:This is very controversial decision by Ray Anderson. Many ASU fans, myself included, think this was a very big mistake.
If Arizona want play the same game. Arizona AD will also be a fucking joke.
ASU was pick to finish 5th in the south. Finish Second Places.
UA was pick to finish 6th in the south. Finish Third Places.
Unrealistic Expectation are killing football program.
With hesitance I agree with you both. I say "hesitance" because all I heard from Tempe offseason was "8-4 or better for Todd to keep his job." So, on paper, yes, stick to your word and fire him.
However, firing him now seems to ignore aspects of the mini-turnaround that took place in 2017 and for all practical purposes would've continued into 2018. The awful defense Todd was forced to fix was playing night and day better in certain games (Vs Utah, Vs Washington) and in many other games were playing with a consistency not seen since 2014. And I thought Todd's development of Wilkins coinciding with his strategizing the offense for Wilkins' game management was solid throughout the course of the season. On the other hand his offense went through stretches of imbalance that directly cost ASU games, specifically against UCLA, where at times Harry would disappear despite overmatching the Bruin's defensive backfield or the running game would disappear when UCLA couldn't stop their RBs.
Point is if Graham's staff were kept intact and if the more experienced roster meant more consistency I think it would've been worth keeping Graham another year. I would've liked to see how it would've gone because Graham's tenure is now the third Sun Devil coaching cycle I've experience where a coach was fired amidst moderate success; in Dirk's case I wanted to see how one more season would've turned out, but not in Erickson's.
