2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:51 am

Michalczik to Oregon State

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:06 am

chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State

Who's the replacement? Parker?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:14 am

You also said we lost a recruiter. Fake News! I want my money back from your premium services Steve.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:29 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
Who's the replacement? Parker?

He’s an option. He has no D1 coaching experience. I’d go out and get someone else who can coach, recruit, and teach zone blocking.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:00 am

ChooChooCat wrote:You also said we lost a recruiter. Fake News! I want my money back from your premium services Steve.

He had 3 valuable commits he was holding onto. Even if one jumps, Arizona is in deep crap. The OL is extremely sensitive right now and we are two weeks away from showdown. I have no premium services. I leave that up to the experts who y’all pay to tell y’all what you want to hear. Only real news here A-Train. Get on board.....Choo Choo!!!!

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:01 am

chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
Who's the replacement? Parker?

He’s an option. He has no D1 coaching experience. I’d go out and get someone else who can coach, recruit, and teach zone blocking.

Any ideas? Certainly been some turnover around the country.
Like A & M guy but certain I'm dreaming.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:10 am

If Taggart jumps to FSU I certainly hope RichRod poaches Oregons recruits like dead roadkill.

They have a boatload of 4 Star commits but given our immediate needs I would make a run at their JC defensive tackle:

https://247sports.com/player/mohamed-diallo-46041565" target="_blank

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:13 am

ramcat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
Who's the replacement? Parker?

He’s an option. He has no D1 coaching experience. I’d go out and get someone else who can coach, recruit, and teach zone blocking.
Any ideas? Certainly been some turnover around the country.
Like A & M guy but certain I'm dreaming.

TJ Woods

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:30 am

chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State

That's a strange move. Reasons?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:33 am

MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
That's a strange move. Reasons?

He got the Head assistant (2nd in charge title) plus the run game coordinator. He was losing almost all of his o-line and he knows that RR’s time is borrowed. He is good friends with Smith.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:46 am

chiefzona wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
That's a strange move. Reasons?

He got the Head assistant (2nd in charge title) plus the run game coordinator. He was losing almost all of his o-line and he knows that RR’s time is borrowed. He is good friends with Smith.

A change of residence from the Lusitania to the Titanic. Not a bright move ... unless he's not really as good as advertised.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:46 am

chiefzona wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
That's a strange move. Reasons?

He got the Head assistant (2nd in charge title) plus the run game coordinator. He was losing almost all of his o-line and he knows that RR’s time is borrowed. He is good friends with Smith.

I don't blame him at all. Got a more important job that he was never getting here as long as Smith and Magee are here, assuming more money, got a brand new fresh start with a first year coach that should be guaranteed 3 years, job uncertainty next year, and has connections to Oregon State and Smith. Makes sense to me.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:03 pm

chiefzona wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
That's a strange move. Reasons?

He got the Head assistant (2nd in charge title) plus the run game coordinator. He was losing almost all of his o-line and he knows that RR’s time is borrowed. He is good friends with Smith.

From the Oregonian. (New church, different pew):

"Oregon State will hire Colorado co-offensive coordinator Brian Lindgren and Arizona offensive line coach Jim Michalczik, sources close to the situation told The Oregonian/OregonLive.

Lindgren is expected to be the OSU offensive coordinator and Michalczik will take over as offensive line coach".

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:38 pm

Time for poaching RRod

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... ass_5.html" target="_blank

Maybe we could swap a 4 star or two for a couple of our 3 Star MWC level sub 6 foot receivers with 4.9 forty speed.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:49 pm

chiefzona wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
That's a strange move. Reasons?

He got the Head assistant (2nd in charge title) plus the run game coordinator. He was losing almost all of his o-line and he knows that RR’s time is borrowed. He is good friends with Smith.

So why keep everyone hope up that Coach M knows that 2018 season is it for RR? Why keep beating the same drum when RR is just going to keep proving you wrong every step of the way? Good for Coach M on upgraded his coaching title of Associate HC and Run Game Coordinator. But what does that got to do with RR jobs status? I heard that Glenn Park a former NFL and Arizona O-linemen is going to replace Coach M as Offense line coach?

Do I have that right.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:13 pm

dmjcat wrote:Time for poaching RRod

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... ass_5.html" target="_blank

Maybe we could swap a 4 star or two for a couple of our 3 Star MWC level sub 6 foot receivers with 4.9 forty speed.

Nightmares about the new coach coming in for UO and poaching more recruits.... although I don't know if there are many/if any I would be actually upset about losing.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:26 pm

Rich Rod couldn't poach a dead duck from 2 feet away.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:19 pm

chiefzona wrote:
ramcat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Michalczik to Oregon State
Who's the replacement? Parker?

He’s an option. He has no D1 coaching experience. I’d go out and get someone else who can coach, recruit, and teach zone blocking.
Any ideas? Certainly been some turnover around the country.
Like A & M guy but certain I'm dreaming.

TJ Woods

Looks good to me. Do you think with RR'S tenure and future outlook, he's realistic? Some decent recruiting experience and lots of coaching experience as well.
Hopefully, they can get him in for a look.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:54 pm

ramcat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
ramcat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:

He’s an option. He has no D1 coaching experience. I’d go out and get someone else who can coach, recruit, and teach zone blocking.
Any ideas? Certainly been some turnover around the country.
Like A & M guy but certain I'm dreaming.

RR always looks for the easy hire. He would be it.

Looks good to me. Do you think with RR'S tenure and future outlook, he's realistic? Some decent recruiting experience and lots of coaching experience as well.
Hopefully, they can get him in for a look.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:19 am

Oregon poaching targets - We should be all over the big DT

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... ommit.html" target="_blank

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:23 am

dmjcat wrote:Oregon poaching targets - We should be all over the big DT

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... ommit.html" target="_blank

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:51 am

My guess is Oregon hires Sumlin and he's more than capable of keeping that class together for the most part.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:05 am

ChooChooCat wrote:My guess is Oregon hires Sumlin and he's more than capable of keeping that class together for the most part.

i would tend to agree but they have already had quite a few decommits in the past 24 hours. The Oregon AD needs to tie down a new coach ASAP before too many commits get picked off by other schools.

http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/in ... ledge.html" target="_blank

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:43 pm

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:24 pm

Looks like we are out of the Noah Jefferson sweepstakes. Too bad we couldn't get him admitted last year.

https://247sports.com/college/ole-miss/ ... -112181566" target="_blank

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:29 pm

6’5 315 or so

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:12 am

whatisee wrote:
6’5 315 or so

His offer list includes Coastal Carolina, Massachusetts and Florida Atlantic

https://247sports.com/player/pj-johnson-46049712" target="_blank

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:18 am

dmjcat wrote:
whatisee wrote:
6’5 315 or so
His offer list includes Coastal Carolina, Massachusetts and Florida Atlantic

https://247sports.com/player/pj-johnson-46049712" target="_blank

If you would have looked deeper you would have also noticed he played one year for Sacramento State, and then a year at a JC. Sounds like he'll have two years to play.

I think you may have noticed we need help with size on the D line which is exactly what this kid brings. We have a couple slots left so the coaches must think he can contribute

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 am

whatisee wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
whatisee wrote:
6’5 315 or so
His offer list includes Coastal Carolina, Massachusetts and Florida Atlantic

https://247sports.com/player/pj-johnson-46049712" target="_blank
If you would have looked deeper you would have also noticed he played one year for Sacramento State, and then a year at a JC. Sounds like he'll have two years to play.

I think you may have noticed we need help with size on the D line which is exactly what this kid brings. We have a couple slots left so the coaches must think he can contribute

Arizona needs much more than just size on the DL.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:14 pm

chiefzona wrote:
whatisee wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
whatisee wrote:
6’5 315 or so
His offer list includes Coastal Carolina, Massachusetts and Florida Atlantic

https://247sports.com/player/pj-johnson-46049712" target="_blank
If you would have looked deeper you would have also noticed he played one year for Sacramento State, and then a year at a JC. Sounds like he'll have two years to play.

I think you may have noticed we need help with size on the D line which is exactly what this kid brings. We have a couple slots left so the coaches must think he can contribute

Arizona needs much more than just size on the DL.

And Mr Cryptic, what would that be? Athleticism, length, physicality, coaching, scheme?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:46 pm

azcat49 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
whatisee wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
whatisee wrote:
6’5 315 or so
His offer list includes Coastal Carolina, Massachusetts and Florida Atlantic

https://247sports.com/player/pj-johnson-46049712" target="_blank
If you would have looked deeper you would have also noticed he played one year for Sacramento State, and then a year at a JC. Sounds like he'll have two years to play.

I think you may have noticed we need help with size on the D line which is exactly what this kid brings. We have a couple slots left so the coaches must think he can contribute

Arizona needs much more than just size on the DL.
And Mr Cryptic, what would that be? Athleticism, length, physicality, coaching, scheme?

Yes. Plus, technique, skill, Weight training, rip techs, gap responsibilities, edge responsibility, competent DL coach.....have I nailed all the pertinent facts?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:49 pm

Yep, thanks. Coaching them up. Sounds like you are not an Amey fan nor one of the S&C staff. Curious of you liked Kirelavich(we all know he never recruited but asking more for his coaching)?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:02 pm

azcat49 wrote:Yep, thanks. Coaching them up. Sounds like you are not an Amey fan nor one of the S&C staff. Curious of you liked Kirelavich(we all know he never recruited but asking more for his coaching)?

How many DL have you seen taking passing lanes away with hands up. RIP moves? Swim? No. They're busy getting manhandled and blown off of the line. Terrible weight training, recruiting, and techniques. I couldn't stand Kirelavich and neither could the players. How many NFL players did he have?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:20 pm

Agreed on Kirelavich. I thought hood loved him but he inherited both Gilbert and Pettinato that were decent guys and to me that was the first sign that we had a coach treating his job as a hobby. Also the current staff has not done much with Griffin which was a waste of a scholarship on a 4 star guy.

I have thought Amey was at least a bit better than I originally expected, especially in recruiting. Its not like we ever signed high ranking kids on our DLine. Saw more passes this year swatted down but I do agree with you they are often controlled inside and really struggle to get off blocks

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:34 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Yep, thanks. Coaching them up. Sounds like you are not an Amey fan nor one of the S&C staff. Curious of you liked Kirelavich(we all know he never recruited but asking more for his coaching)?

How many DL have you seen taking passing lanes away with hands up. RIP moves? Swim? No. They're busy getting manhandled and blown off of the line. Terrible weight training, recruiting, and techniques. I couldn't stand Kirelavich and neither could the players. How many NFL players did he have?

Not trying to defend him, but he was the 2010 DLine COTY

Alpha chiefdom · Post by **Alpha chiefdom** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:03 pm

Chiefzona i have a question for you? How come you're not coaching anywhere or recruiting analyst for some team? I figured you would be a highly paid coach with all your knowledge and expertise in the game of football. I would think at least the wildcats would've been knocking down your door after the stoops firing. You have all the inside information i would think you would be making millions at a major university with your knowledge.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:52 pm

I just got word that Arizona is not honoring Armani Adams’ commitment. Sour grapes from his camp. They are trashing Rich Rod in Florida. This tends to happen but I’ve noticed RR has been more adept at this of late. Might be some shuffling for oncoming or silent commits plus rethinking on some player evals. Stay tuned.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:10 pm

chiefzona wrote:I just got word that Arizona is not honoring Armani Adams’ commitment. Sour grapes from his camp. They are trashing Rich Rod in Florida. This tends to happen but I’ve noticed RR has been more adept at this of late. Might be some shuffling for oncoming or silent commits plus rethinking on some player evals. Stay tuned.

A position we currently seem to be loaded at. Sucks when things like this happens, but we'll see what happens when the dust settles.

Woodcat · Post by **Woodcat** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:25 pm

chiefzona wrote:I just got word that Arizona is not honoring Armani Adams’ commitment. Sour grapes from his camp. They are trashing Rich Rod in Florida. This tends to happen but I’ve noticed RR has been more adept at this of late. Might be some shuffling for oncoming or silent commits plus rethinking on some player evals. Stay tuned.

Interesting. Well i guess it's better getting trashed 2,500 miles away in Florida versus California, right?

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:48 pm

He can play for Taggart, he's loyal, right?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:41 pm

chiefzona wrote:I just got word that Arizona is not honoring Armani Adams’ commitment. Sour grapes from his camp. They are trashing Rich Rod in Florida. This tends to happen but I’ve noticed RR has been more adept at this of late. Might be some shuffling for oncoming or silent commits plus rethinking on some player evals. Stay tuned.

This has been in the works for a long while at this point hasn't it?

Woodcat · Post by **Woodcat** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:07 am

Armani committed to UA on 06/05/2017. Here is a retweet from Armani on 11/17/2017:

Corey Bender‏Verified account
@Corey_Bender
Nov 14
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#Arizona DB commit Armani Adams locks in first official visit, and plans on visiting two additional schools as well.

So it looks like Armani expected UA to honor his commitment while he continued to look around. Don't you just love recruiting!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:23 am

Woodcat wrote:Armani committed to UA on 06/05/2017. Here is a retweet from Armani on 11/17/2017:

Corey Bender‏Verified account
@Corey_Bender
Nov 14
More
#Arizona DB commit Armani Adams locks in first official visit, and plans on visiting two additional schools as well.

So it looks like Armani expected UA to honor his commitment while he continued to look around. Don't you just love recruiting!

RR hasn't done that in awhile. The last one that I can remember was Nate Dogg's son. There are other recruits who have committed and visited other schools and told staff that and it was granted. I don't know Armani's situation specifically but I'm sure I'll hear about it soon. It's bad business as word gets around. Where's Dudek to tell us all that Arizona is only looking for OKGs?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:15 am

Woodcat wrote:Armani committed to UA on 06/05/2017. Here is a retweet from Armani on 11/17/2017:

Corey Bender‏Verified account
@Corey_Bender
Nov 14
More
#Arizona DB commit Armani Adams locks in first official visit, and plans on visiting two additional schools as well.

So it looks like Armani expected UA to honor his commitment while he continued to look around. Don't you just love recruiting!

Recruiting is the wart on the ass of college sports.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:16 am

Adrian Martinez decommits from Tennessee. I wonder if we have a shot at snagging him since we were once recruiting him 4* QB from Clovis West High School

https://247sports.com/Player/Adrian-Martinez-90829" target="_blank

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:28 am

whatisee wrote:Adrian Martinez decommits from Tennessee. I wonder if we have a shot at snagging him since we were once recruiting him 4* QB from Clovis West High School

https://247sports.com/Player/Adrian-Martinez-90829" target="_blank

His commitment is already to Nebraska and Coach Frost!

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:37 am

MountainCat wrote:
whatisee wrote:Adrian Martinez decommits from Tennessee. I wonder if we have a shot at snagging him since we were once recruiting him 4* QB from Clovis West High School

https://247sports.com/Player/Adrian-Martinez-90829" target="_blank
His commitment is already to Nebraska and Coach Frost!

Why you yellin' bro?

The other Vols QB is getting sweet talked by Slick Willie Tagert

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:19 am

chiefzona wrote:
Woodcat wrote:Armani committed to UA on 06/05/2017. Here is a retweet from Armani on 11/17/2017:

Corey Bender‏Verified account
@Corey_Bender
Nov 14
More
#Arizona DB commit Armani Adams locks in first official visit, and plans on visiting two additional schools as well.

So it looks like Armani expected UA to honor his commitment while he continued to look around. Don't you just love recruiting!

RR hasn't done that in awhile. The last one that I can remember was Nate Dogg's son. There are other recruits who have committed and visited other schools and told staff that and it was granted. I don't know Armani's situation specifically but I'm sure I'll hear about it soon. It's bad business as word gets around. Where's Dudek to tell us all that Arizona is only looking for OKGs?

He has mentioned it before. The quote was something along the lines of there is a difference between Sally Walker and Herschel Walker. I think this happened with Tommy Woodson way back when too.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:34 am

whatisee wrote:
MountainCat wrote:
whatisee wrote:Adrian Martinez decommits from Tennessee. I wonder if we have a shot at snagging him since we were once recruiting him 4* QB from Clovis West High School

https://247sports.com/Player/Adrian-Martinez-90829" target="_blank
His commitment is already to Nebraska and Coach Frost!
Why you yellin' bro?

The other Vols QB is getting sweet talked by Slick Willie Tagert

Yelling? How was I yelling? ....oh the explanation point.... It's only "yelling" when you use more than one.

Got It!!!

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:48 am

Best news is that both Friek and Poindexter got an extra year and will be playing for us next year. Surprised Chief didn't anything about that. Oh its good news so he can't speak on that

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