Game 14, vs Arizona State (2017-2018)

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:38 am

No. 17/18 Arizona vs. No. 3/4 Arizona State

Saturday, Dec. 30 at 7:00 p.m. (MST)

TV: Pac-12 Network (J.B. Long, Matt Muehlebach, Cindy Brunson)
Radio: Arizona IMG Radio Network (Brian Jeffries & Ryan Hansen)

read more: http://www.arizonawildcats.com/news/201 ... pener.aspx" target="_blank

game notes: http://www.arizonawildcats.com/document ... vs_ASU.pdf" target="_blank

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:16 am

I've been reading/listening to a lot of the media and one thing is certain. ASU is clearly, 100% buying their own hype. They believe (players and fans) that they are legitimately one of the best teams, top 5 in the country.

Shannon Evans is talking about being disrespected from the national media.

It drives me CRAZY that ASU people believe they can become a juggernaut just like that. They have zero clue what it means to drive a national caliber program for the long haul.

We have send these guys crashing back down to Earth.

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:21 am

listen to this podcast to get your blood boiling:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 794842001/" target="_blank

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:45 pm

Bordercat wrote:listen to this podcast to get your blood boiling:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 794842001/" target="_blank

Thanks for the link. I enjoyed the podcast and my blood isn't boiling. I'll be the Devil's advocate, what did they say that wasn't true? Of course they are pro-ASU, but I heard more objectivity than negativity.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:53 pm

Eff ASU. I respect Pat Tillman. Everything else ASU is pretty much worthless.

Hopefully we put their ranking to the test.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:02 pm

Bordercat wrote:listen to this podcast to get your blood boiling:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 794842001/" target="_blank

Interesting. UOA protects home court at McKale.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:26 pm

HiCat wrote:
Bordercat wrote:listen to this podcast to get your blood boiling:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 794842001/" target="_blank
Interesting. UOA protects home court at McKale.

It's more logical than U of A protecting home court at Rupp Arena. It's high level analysis.

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:53 pm

DiehardDave37 wrote:
Bordercat wrote:listen to this podcast to get your blood boiling:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 794842001/" target="_blank
Thanks for the link. I enjoyed the podcast and my blood isn't boiling. I'll be the Devil's advocate, what did they say that wasn't true? Of course they are pro-ASU, but I heard more objectivity than negativity.

Just the whole notion that they have arrived drives me batty. I can't remember exactly what but there were several comments throughout that drove me crazy. Like, what if ASU had Ayton.. they'd surely be number 1. SMH... what if AZ had Holder. Stupid stuff like that.

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:56 pm

Here's another: https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 988658001/" target="_blank

"It's not just a game any more, it's bigger than basketball," Evans said. "It's for Tempe, for our school, and we have to do it. They're a great team, they're well coached, but going into conference play, it's bigger than anything. What we did the last month or two doesn't matter no more."

Evans said even as one of three remaining unbeaten Division-I teams that ASU is not getting what he deems to be national respect. Case in point for Evans is a recent ESPN discussion about the nation's top point guards that did not include him or Holder.

"When you see things like that, it puts an extra chip on your shoulder," Evans said. "They hate on us so that's cool. I couldn't figure it out. I'm not an analyst so I don't know."

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:58 pm

Bordercat wrote:
DiehardDave37 wrote:
Bordercat wrote:listen to this podcast to get your blood boiling:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 794842001/" target="_blank
Thanks for the link. I enjoyed the podcast and my blood isn't boiling. I'll be the Devil's advocate, what did they say that wasn't true? Of course they are pro-ASU, but I heard more objectivity than negativity.
Just the whole notion that they have arrived drives me batty. I can't remember exactly what but there were several comments throughout that drove me crazy. Like, what if ASU had Ayton.. they'd surely be number 1. SMH... what if AZ had Holder. Stupid stuff like that.

What if we had Herm Edwards coach our team and John Mackovic coached ASU?

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:04 pm

One of the biggest storylines entering Saturday’s rivalry game between the Arizona Wildcats and Arizona State Sun Devils is how UA’s oversized frontcourt will fare against ASU’s small-ball style of play and vice versa.

The Wildcats might have to play small and stagger the minutes of Deandre Ayton and Dusan Ristic so they aren’t forced to guard on the perimeter for long stretches, but it doesn’t sound like that will be Arizona’s plan — at least initially.

“We’ve played a number of teams in our 13 non-conference games that have a five-man that can shoot, maybe four perimeter players around a five-man as a true center. And we’ve worked our way through that,” head coach Sean Miller said.
https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... y-games-tv" target="_blank

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:10 pm

Not feeling confident about this one, mostly because I'm convinced arizona should win pretty easily.

Pretty similar feeling to pre Atlantis trip and Xavier game, so I got my guard up. Just got this weird feeling they rain three's on us,

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:25 pm

HiCat wrote:One of the biggest storylines entering Saturday’s rivalry game between the Arizona Wildcats and Arizona State Sun Devils is how UA’s oversized frontcourt will fare against ASU’s small-ball style of play and vice versa.

The Wildcats might have to play small and stagger the minutes of Deandre Ayton and Dusan Ristic so they aren’t forced to guard on the perimeter for long stretches, but it doesn’t sound like that will be Arizona’s plan — at least initially.

“We’ve played a number of teams in our 13 non-conference games that have a five-man that can shoot, maybe four perimeter players around a five-man as a true center. And we’ve worked our way through that,” head coach Sean Miller said.
https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... y-games-tv" target="_blank

I want Ristic and Ayton in there together as much as possible. I think Ristic handles White. Ayton will be fine.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:54 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Not feeling confident about this one, mostly because I'm convinced arizona should win pretty easily.

Pretty similar feeling to pre Atlantis trip and Xavier game, so I got my guard up. Just got this weird feeling they rain three's on us,

This is where I'm at as well.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:10 pm

I do hope that Miller is open to making changes based on the flow of the game. I think Pinder or Lee will be needed for 15-20 minutes on either White, Lake or Mitchell. If Dusan is getting easy buckets due to the attention to Ayton, that is OK too. Rawle might do OK on Mitchell. I also think one of Akot, Alex, or (don't shoot me) Smith will be needed big time. I sure hope that both Akot and Alex are ready (in all ways) for this one. I do expect to win by a single digit, but we'll need all hands on deck.

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:15 pm

Barcello is the one we need off the bench IMO, to match up with Remy.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:04 pm

Bordercat wrote:Barcello is the one we need off the bench IMO, to match up with Remy.

I agree with this . Remy has tremendous energy. ASU gets to the line a lot so we need bench production tomorrow. I'm guessing we could have some foul trouble so I'm hoping CSM ran rotate in players who can be productive. If ASU has an off shooting day rebounding is the key. No second chance points, limit dribble penetration, and make them work for everything on the perimeter. We can't give them wide open looks beyond the arc.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:31 pm

I'm also down with Alex on Remy.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:25 am

Dumbest article ever......good grief, how can anyone who is a UA fan think we would ever rush the court over an ASU win????? https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... ats-tucson

Seriously, I’m ashamed that a Wildcat would even write this kind of crap.....it reeks of desperation. Has our program sunk this low? Or is this Alec Sills-Trausch a moron? Or just ignorant?

Oh and f*ck ASU!

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:22 am

Bordercat wrote:Barcello is the one we need off the bench IMO, to match up with Remy.

Agree.

Additionally, I hope that (a couple of these guys) Brandon Randolph, Ira Lee, and Emmanuel Akot can rise to their highest levels and contribute today. It would be something to see given the moment.

Miller:

“I don’t know if we have a deep team,” he said Thursday.

“We’re trying to figure out who we’re playing. That’s not because I’m not playing who I want to play. That’s because it’s very difficult to determine who should and that’s not a good thing. We have a lot of guys working hard. We’ve had a couple great practices since we’ve returned (from Christmas break). We had that competitive spirit in practice because there’s really no surefire thing once you get past a few players because we’re hoping it sorts itself out, but that really hasn’t been the case yet.”

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... olph-smith" target="_blank

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:14 am

it’s all about Holder in this game - to his credit he’s been brilliant all season.

Evans-Martin-Justice all feed off him and his ability to get into the lane and finish at the rim.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:25 am

I feel like we, as a fan base, really need this.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:40 am

Looks like arizona is favored by 6 by Vegas

Lute4God · Post by **Lute4God** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:51 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Looks like arizona is favored by 6 by Vegas

Having seen ASU absolutely destroy both Xavier and Kansas down the stretch in Allen Fieldhouse I don't feel confident at all.

Kansas pretty much gave up with about 5 minutes to go. Never seen that at Phog.

No doubt my voice will be gone by that time in the game. Hopefully all our cats will still be on the floor!

Would this game be an obvious case where a zone for 5 or 10 minutes here and there would be an obvious defensive weapon (not that will happen with CSM anytime soon)?

DaddyO'Cat · Post by **DaddyO'Cat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:02 pm

Chicat wrote:I feel like we, as a fan base, really need this.

I sure as hell do.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:03 pm

I've got a lunch bet at Carolina's on this game. Go Cats!

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:07 pm

Villanova down... ASU is #1 with a win.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:21 pm

last undefeated team

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:26 pm

97cats wrote:last undefeated team

Not for long

Fuck ASU

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:29 pm

you have to think the thought that if they win, they will be number 1, and what it would mean for them.... pressure? or will it put them over the top?

I think they crumble. But really this could be their championship right here tonight.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:53 pm

So mad I have to miss this game. My flight back to Barcelona from JFK leaves at 8:15. Better fucking land to some good news or my whole day will be ruined. Bear the fuck down

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:49 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:So mad I have to miss this game. My flight back to Barcelona from JFK leaves at 8:15. Better fucking land to some good news or my whole day will be ruined. Bear the fuck down

Change your flight.

Time in Barca done so soon?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:16 pm

My wife said an Arizona victory is her chosen birthday present. Don't let me down Cats.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:20 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:My wife said an Arizona victory is her chosen birthday present. Don't let me down Cats.

boy man, you got off easy

lol

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:29 pm

Why can't we get even one break from an Arizona game officiated by this foul fest freak?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:37 pm

97cats wrote:
dovecanyoncat wrote:My wife said an Arizona victory is her chosen birthday present. Don't let me down Cats.
boy man, you got off easy

lol

You have no idea. She's a Wildcat fan whose only flaw is her obviously lousy taste in men.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:38 pm

This has to be the biggest game in the history of ASU basketball. This is like their championship game. A win gives ASU the #1 ranking and their best start ever. It also could be huge in securing them a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Based on some of their obnoxious fans and the love affair the media has with them I hope we give them a hefty dose of reality tonight. Go Cats!

DaddyO'Cat · Post by **DaddyO'Cat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:41 pm

We've got to smack them in the mouth at the opening buzzer and never let our foot off their necks until the fat lady sings... And some masterful adjustments by Miller if need be. Time for him to earn his pay.

DaddyO'Cat · Post by **DaddyO'Cat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:43 pm

No retreat, no surrender

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:45 pm

Time to put a classic Arizona Beat Down on the Scummies! Bear Down.

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:47 pm

Here is your focus. Plain and simple. Lock their shit down.

Defend. Shut them down. That is it. We will let scoring take care of itself.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:57 pm

Help! Why can't I find the live feed on PAC-12 network.com

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:59 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:Help! Why can't I find the live feed on PAC-12 network.com

PM’d you

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:00 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:Help! Why can't I find the live feed on PAC-12 network.com

The link is there. It took me a few clicks to find it.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:02 pm

We have every necessary component to compete: full strength; home court; rest and time to prepare; coaching emphasis on perimeter defense; over the top hype to begin conference play against a #3 ranked opponent our players have every reason in the world to want to make a statement against. There could all of a sudden be a lid on the hoop. They could make contested 3s all night and beat us, but if it's anything other than that we'll know why.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:03 pm

Time to serve a dose of reality. BTFD!

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:04 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:Time to serve a dose of reality. BTFD!

Post of the day!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:05 pm

Can someone post a link?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:05 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:Help! Why can't I find the live feed on PAC-12 network.com

http://xrxs.ml/" target="_blank

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:06 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Can someone post a link?

http://grandmastreams.me/247/pac12network.html

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