Non-Pac-12 Game Thread

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:37 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:If asu wins and Villanova loses they'll be #1 Monday
I believe Michigan State would be #1. ASU would be #2.
Moot point. ASsU may be out of the top 10 and we will be in. Which suits me just fine.

I doubt if ASU falls out of the top 10, especially losing to a ranked team on the road. I hope the Cats move into the top 10 but it is iffy. Voters will see the 3 losses.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:44 pm

ASU will still be around #8 and us around #12

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:45 pm

Agree cith, and voters are stupid

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:15 pm

A few idiot voters will be sure to put us around 20th. And no, ASU should not fall out of the top 10.

Just keep winning. On to Utah & Colorado.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:48 pm

Thanks for nothing Bama.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:48 pm

Texas A&M is not helping us by crash landing in conference play.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:10 pm

Kansas down 11 at the half, can they lose another home game?

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:09 pm

Down goes Kansas again at home.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Irish27 wrote:Down goes Kansas again at home.

Texas Tech would win the Pac-12, right enflamo?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Irish27 wrote:Down goes Kansas again at home.

So satisfying. Was it good for you too?

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:24 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Texas A&M is not helping us by crash landing in conference play.

Yep, but their leading scorer, Hogg, has been suspended along with a couple of others....not sure that would have saved them though....they are really crapping the bed now.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:26 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:
Irish27 wrote:Down goes Kansas again at home.
So satisfying. Was it good for you too?

If I was a smoker I’d want a cigarette now, lol. Love it.....KU showing just how AFH is not much of an advantage. Think I’ll go to their boards and feast on their tears for a bit.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:40 pm

This loss will give Kansas a bump in the polls.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:06 pm

unc loses at fsu

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:45 pm

The Pastner Jackets take down #15 Miami.

In other news, I have no idea why Miami was ranked 15th.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:33 pm

There's parity this season. And by that I mean most teams aren't very good. I expect Duke to be dominant by March and think we will be their only legit competition if all goes according to plan.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:01 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:There's parity this season. And by that I mean most teams aren't very good. I expect Duke to be dominant by March and think we will be their only legit competition if all goes according to plan.

MSU is legit and Izzo can prep a team for the tourney. They'll be there at the end. Duke beat them because Allen went all world from 3, but I don't think Duke carries an advantage over MSU.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:52 pm

Watch the last few seconds of the Cal Poly basketball game. You probably noticed on the chryon during the UA game they were down 21-2 to UCSB at one point.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:49 pm

Wow, great post Merkin.....that was wild. Thanks!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:58 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Wow, great post Merkin.....that was wild. Thanks!

Talk about some pressure free throw shooting.

No idea why this wasn't a foul on the Gaucho. He ran right over this Mustang. I actually love this inbounds play by the Mustangs, to screen the guy defending the throw in. No idea why we don't see it more.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:15 pm

I transferred from Arizona to UCSB after my sophomore year, but my fandom was too fully owned by Arizona to ever get into UCSB basketball, even back when we were good. Maybe Pasternack will turn things around.

Merkin, do you follow Cal Poly basketball?

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:42 pm

Merkin wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Wow, great post Merkin.....that was wild. Thanks!
Talk about some pressure free throw shooting.

No idea why this wasn't a foul on the Gaucho. He ran right over this Mustang. I actually love this inbounds play by the Mustangs, to screen the guy defending the throw in. No idea why we don't see it more.

Hey Merkin, that confused the crap out of me too.....How on earth was that not a foul? He ran that Dude right over...I’m assuming the ‘protected zone’ doesn’t count in this case. Then it would have been 2 shots instead of 3 for that other call, correct? Talk about a game changer.....you get screwed on the first noncall but then gifted another one with greater benefits....then again that first Dude might have been a lower % FT shooter as well as he looked bulky IMO.

Again, wild close of the game!

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:34 pm

Merkin wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Wow, great post Merkin.....that was wild. Thanks!
Talk about some pressure free throw shooting.

No idea why this wasn't a foul on the Gaucho. He ran right over this Mustang. I actually love this inbounds play by the Mustangs, to screen the guy defending the throw in. No idea why we don't see it more.

If I was a ref, I wouldn't call a foul on that. The screen was effective. If it's set to solicit a foul call, then I don't like the play. The screen effectively gave the inbounder room to pass so I'd call it an effective screen with no foul and let it go. I don't like plays set up to force a call from a ref.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:18 pm

zonagrad wrote:
Merkin wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Wow, great post Merkin.....that was wild. Thanks!
Talk about some pressure free throw shooting.

No idea why this wasn't a foul on the Gaucho. He ran right over this Mustang. I actually love this inbounds play by the Mustangs, to screen the guy defending the throw in. No idea why we don't see it more.

If I was a ref, I wouldn't call a foul on that. The screen was effective. If it's set to solicit a foul call, then I don't like the play. The screen effectively gave the inbounder room to pass so I'd call it an effective screen with no foul and let it go. I don't like plays set up to force a call from a ref.

Hey Zonagrad, thanks for the comment. So is this a rule that allows Refs the discretion to call this? I thought anything this clear would necessitate a foul but it sounds from you that the Refs have the discretion to noncall if it’s an obvious attempt to draw a foul?

prh · Post by **prh** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:21 am

Merkin wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Wow, great post Merkin.....that was wild. Thanks!
Talk about some pressure free throw shooting.

No idea why this wasn't a foul on the Gaucho. He ran right over this Mustang. I actually love this inbounds play by the Mustangs, to screen the guy defending the throw in. No idea why we don't see it more.

We started seeing this play a bit last year, there 3 or so non conference games that were decided because of a foul call there. Pretty much all the talking heads hate it (I agree), but it's been done a couple more times this year. I 100% agree with zonagrad, that by letting it go, it just becomes an effective screen and leaves the game in the hands of the players.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:45 am

If that's a foul, then every set screen is a foul. You're not doing it right if you set a screen and then fall over when the defender runs into you.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:51 am

Watching this UNC/UVA game and I feel like we’re better than both these teams.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:42 pm

Chicat wrote:Watching this UNC/UVA game and I feel like we’re better than both these teams.

Have to worry about being better than unranked Colorado first.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:31 pm

enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Watching this UNC/UVA game and I feel like we’re better than both these teams.
Have to worry about being better than unranked Colorado first.

The last time I checked we have fewer PAC12 losses than Kansas

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:43 pm

enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Watching this UNC/UVA game and I feel like we’re better than both these teams.
Have to worry about being better than unranked Colorado first.

We lost to Colorado on the road.
ASU also lost to Colorado.
Kansas got their shit pushed in by ASU at home.
Arizona beat ASU handily at home.

By the laws of transitive property your shit talk has been rendered null and void since Kansas would lose to Colorado by 25 at Phog Allen (if my calculations are correct, which they always are since I’m a very stable genius).

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:53 pm

Damn, Villanova (home game) just crushed Xavier 89-65, wow, they are looking so good right now.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:21 pm

Remember our great win over top 10 Texas A&M? Well they are unranked and 0-4 in the sec now.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:52 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Remember our great win over top 10 Texas A&M? Well they are unranked and 0-4 in the sec now.

Yep, although that stretch included a crazy circus come from behind loss to LSU (2 Crazy and incredible 3 pointers with 16 seconds left) to lose to LSU by one and some injuries along with leading scorer (and immature dumba##) DJ Hogg 3 game suspension.

Not trying to give them an excuse but they are far from being counted out, will make the NCAA Tourney and will make a good run IMO....they just aren’t a Top 10 Team for sure. That said, they need to right their ship ASAP.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm

ASU already has 20 FTA in the first half

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:21 pm

Frybry02 wrote:ASU already has 20 FTA in the first half

Shouldn’t this be in the P12 game thread or the ASU thread?

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:09 am

It is no fluke that Purdue blew us off the floor. I am surprised they also lost 2 in the Bahamas. They may be the best team in the nation right now.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:26 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:ASU already has 20 FTA in the first half
Shouldn’t this be in the P12 game thread or the ASU thread?

Yes

Also Villanova is damn good

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:46 pm

UNC getting owned by Virginia Tech. Not a good team despite lots of experience.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:57 pm

UNC loses tonight and hopefully TCU can beat West Virginia.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:08 pm

Fuck unc

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:56 pm

Oklahoma is turrible. They'd be at or near the bottom of the PAC-12.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:59 pm

Uza-whatever his name is surely can’t shoot FTs for sh*t! Hack a Shaq making a comeback.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:05 pm

Looks like ‘Hack a Uza’ is one way to skin the Jayhawks

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:15 pm

UNC goes down again, at home, to NCSU. That was a really good game. It doesn't appear that the UA losses were so bad now.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:32 pm

Virginia is schooling Duke early. They look better than Purdue right now. Of course the game is at Duke and it will still be difficult to win there. BTW their defense is legit. Tony Bennett shows again why he is a good coach.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:39 pm

Catintheheat wrote:UNC goes down again, at home, to NCSU. That was a really good game. It doesn't appear that the UA losses were so bad now.

I know Miller has a tendency to use his TOs quickly but How many of us would go apeshit if Miller didn't use a timeout until 6 seconds left in Overtime and ended in the game with 3 in his pocket in a home loss?

WildHolcs · Post by **WildHolcs** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:47 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Virginia is schooling Duke early. They look better than Purdue right now. Of course the game is at Duke and it will still be difficult to win there. BTW their defense is legit. Tony Bennett shows again why he is a good coach.

I haven't watched them much this year, but damn this is the definition of a fundamentally sound team. Protect the ball, great ball fakes and crisp passes, movement without the ball/backdoors. They have less talent and are much smaller than Duke but are so well coached and play so efficient it doesn't matter. Impressive.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:53 pm

WildHolcs wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:Virginia is schooling Duke early. They look better than Purdue right now. Of course the game is at Duke and it will still be difficult to win there. BTW their defense is legit. Tony Bennett shows again why he is a good coach.

I haven't watched them much this year, but damn this is the definition of a fundamentally sound team. Protect the ball, great ball fakes and crisp passes, movement without the ball/backdoors. They have less talent and are much smaller than Duke but are so well coached and play so efficient it doesn't matter. Impressive.

And then Virginia can't hit anything. Their offense completely stopped for half of the half. But again their defense hasn't dropped off at all, and that is why they are ranked #2.

Phylek · Post by **Phylek** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:56 pm

Miller should have the Cats watch every Virginia game.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:58 pm

Huge Duke run will for sure come. Probably late like they did coming back to win vs Miami.

Hopefully UVA can hang on

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