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zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:28 pm

KU 1-2 vs. Pac 12. Why does everyone think the Big 12 is so wonderful?

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:52 pm

zonagrad wrote:KU 1-2 vs. Pac 12. Why does everyone think the Big 12 is so wonderful?

Please define 'everyone'. Because I don't think it means what you seem to think it means.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:56 am

RichardCranium wrote:
zonagrad wrote:KU 1-2 vs. Pac 12. Why does everyone think the Big 12 is so wonderful?
Please define 'everyone'. Because I don't think it means what you seem to think it means.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ight-scary

There's no better example of the Big 12's depth and talent than TCU. The Horned Frogs entered league play at 12-0 -- and promptly lost four of their first five games. Of course, those five games were no cakewalk: vs. Oklahoma, at Baylor, vs. Kansas, at Texas, at Oklahoma.

The scary part about the Big 12? That five-game stretch isn't really an anomaly. That's the way the league is this season. The worst team is Iowa State -- which has beaten top-50-caliber teams Baylor and Boise State by double digits. The other 1-4 team, in addition to TCU and Iowa State, is Baylor, which entered Big 12 play in the Top 25 after beating Creighton and Wisconsin. There are no easy games, especially on the road.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:06 pm

Puerco wrote:
RichardCranium wrote:
zonagrad wrote:KU 1-2 vs. Pac 12. Why does everyone think the Big 12 is so wonderful?
Please define 'everyone'. Because I don't think it means what you seem to think it means.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ight-scary

There's no better example of the Big 12's depth and talent than TCU. The Horned Frogs entered league play at 12-0 -- and promptly lost four of their first five games. Of course, those five games were no cakewalk: vs. Oklahoma, at Baylor, vs. Kansas, at Texas, at Oklahoma.

The scary part about the Big 12? That five-game stretch isn't really an anomaly. That's the way the league is this season. The worst team is Iowa State -- which has beaten top-50-caliber teams Baylor and Boise State by double digits. The other 1-4 team, in addition to TCU and Iowa State, is Baylor, which entered Big 12 play in the Top 25 after beating Creighton and Wisconsin. There are no easy games, especially on the road.

Same could have been said about asu too.

On Kansas though, Oklahoma just intentionally fouled Azubuike 4 straight times down the stretch, he went 0-6 at the line, and Self never took him out. It was obvious it was coming every time too. Just gave it away.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:08 pm

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

kansas

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:19 pm

Fuegs probably was wishing on a star that Tarc was on the floor, instead of Azubuike, tonight. Tarc wouldnt have lost you the game at the FT line.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:32 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Fuegs probably was wishing on a star that Tarc was on the floor, instead of Azubuike, tonight. Tarc wouldnt have lost you the game at the FT line.

No kidding....The ‘Hack-a-Uza’ Strategy really worked well. A glaring weakness for sure.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:53 pm

That makes four losses (two at home, one in Kansas City) and two one-point wins over Nebraska and Kansas State. When does De Sousa start making an impact? He has two points through four games.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:21 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Fuegs probably was wishing on a star that Tarc was on the floor, instead of Azubuike, tonight. Tarc wouldnt have lost you the game at the FT line.

In fairness to Self, with the loss of Preston, he has very few options. If not Azubuike, it's Mitch Lightfoot or De Souza, who has barely played. After that, it's just guards. They're really, really unbalanced right now. Mayne Lightfoot would stop the intentional fouling, but you lose a lot else.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:57 pm

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:13 am

Chicat wrote:

Ha-Ha!

When I first saw the headline of the linked story I thought this was Fake News type thing. Just shows you that there are crazier fans out there much more intense into the games than even our fan base is. One of the reason I believe we will have a good NCAA Tourney this year is because of our good free-throw percentage, especially Ayton's, amongst other reasons. We are a better team than we think - just need to convince the rest of the basketball nation and be more confident. I think we are just starting to gel just in time for the second half of the conference schedule.

Anyone up for heading to the dorms and teaching the team how to have a faster start?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:40 am

MountainCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Ha-Ha!

When I first saw the headline of the linked story I thought this was Fake News type thing. Just shows you that there are crazier fans out there much more intense into the games than even our fan base is. One of the reason I believe we will have a good NCAA Tourney this year is because of our good free-throw percentage, especially Ayton's, amongst other reasons. We are a better team than we think - just need to convince the rest of the basketball nation and be more confident. I think we are just starting to gel just in time for the second half of the conference schedule.

Anyone up for heading to the dorms and teaching the team how to have a faster start?

I thought this would link the Onion. We don't have the palatial dorms like KU, so we'll have to organize smaller recon parties to hit individual residences.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:25 am

The meltdown on the Phog is fun to watch. Braindead Self is my favorite.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:28 pm

Ahhh, I remember it like it was yesterday....

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:13 pm

Chicat wrote:
Ahhh, I remember it like it was yesterday....

I was there - they totally smoked us in the first half...

... Salim & Walton led one of the best halfs of Arizona basketball in the second.

It was awesome! (Lute proposed to #2 that evening...)

I went to several bars around Lawrence wearing Cat colors, after, and I must say that the KU fans were friendly and complimentary everywhere!

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:16 pm

http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap/_/gameId/230252305" target="_blank

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:07 pm

pc in NM wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Ahhh, I remember it like it was yesterday....
I was there - they totally smoked us in the first half...

... Salim & Walton led one of the best halfs of Arizona basketball in the second.

It was awesome! (Lute proposed to #2 that evening...)

I went to several bars around Lawrence wearing Cat colors, after, and I must say that the KU fans were friendly and complimentary everywhere!

Salim stole that game for Arizona and Walton stole all the candy from the hotel vending machine.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:08 pm

I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:13 pm

Bullshit

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:15 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Bullshit

After watching the replay... blatant foul not called.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:18 pm

enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:30 pm

enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.

Why are you posting this in the Kansas thread?

ALASKACAT · Post by **ALASKACAT** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:18 am

enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.

How about a compromise? Let's give Utah a moral victory.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:50 am

ALASKACAT wrote:
enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.
How about a compromise? Let's give Utah a moral victory.

I think the seeding committee will look at this "win" poorly for UA come selection Sunday. Does it cost UA a seed spot? Don't know. But it won't help.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:52 am

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:28 am

enfuego wrote:
ALASKACAT wrote:
enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.
How about a compromise? Let's give Utah a moral victory.
I think the seeding committee will look at this "win" poorly for UA come selection Sunday. Does it cost UA a seed spot? Don't know. But it won't help.

I think the seeding committee is perfectly aware just how incompetently this game was officiated and will have absolutely no negative change in perspective on Arizona as a result of it.

This game will be evidence in a future government case against shoe company corruption, however.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:43 pm

Probably not the season to talk shit, enfuego. Kansas can't defend home court and that ASU loss looks worse by the day.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:28 pm

Kansas: 1-2 record in the Pac 12. Lone win against a depleted Stanford team without Pickens and Okpala. Sure looks like Kansas is fortunate to play in such a soft conference where they dominate every year. Not so much against the Pac.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:38 pm

I think it's hilarious that this year the big 12 is the most balanced, best conference ever. And this is the year that they lose to the sec, there were a number of games the big 12 should have won but lost. What will the outcome be?????? "The big 12 is so good, it's just that the sec is so much better than we thought, and the Pac 12 still sucks" we will only get 2 teams in the tourney, and probably neither team that beat Kansas will get in. Yay for the Pac 12 networks, yay for our refs that make these games so fun to watch!!

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:06 pm

enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.

I'll submit the paperwork.

Feed your hate young Jedi.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:45 am

January 25, 2003 - Back when winning at Allen Fieldhouse was unusual....

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:52 pm

enfuego wrote:I'm going to have to call a Technical Loss on your game against Utah. The Utah player was absolutely mugged (R.I.P.) on the last play of the game. Award two free throws and the W to Utah.

If by mugged you mean he jumped into a guy with arms straight up and threw the ball in the wrong direction looking for a whistle, yeah.

Of anyone, you should know it isn't easy to beat Pac 12 teams at home (or semi-home).

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:57 pm

Akot pushed the Utah player towards the baseline with his lower body.

Utah player caught the ball so far under the basket that it didnt matter.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:42 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Akot pushed the Utah player towards the baseline with his lower body.

Utah player caught the ball so far under the basket that it didnt matter.

So any physical contact should be a potential whistle? Are you a Pac 12 ref, because that sounds like their line of thinking.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:56 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Akot pushed the Utah player towards the baseline with his lower body.

Utah player caught the ball so far under the basket that it didnt matter.
So any physical contact should be a potential whistle? Are you a Pac 12 ref, because that sounds like their line of thinking.

Yes any physical contact should be a POTENTIAL whistle. Not a foul necessary or a defensive foul.

I never said it was a foul in my opinion. Just saying what I saw which I believe we all know is true

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:20 pm

Big XII always seems to be overrated

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:41 am

Imagine living in Lawrence and your basketball team sucks. Hell on earth.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:09 am

I fully expect them to come back in the second half and win this game, but that first half . . . Woof!

13 offensive rebounds for ntOSU should be embarrassing. Bill Self has to challenge each of those kids to find their nutsacks.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:23 am

Kansas will win by double digits

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:24 am

Okie Light has no chance

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:29 am

OK St wants it more. I can't imagine playing this bad at home with KU's experience.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:31 am

The Okies sure jack up a bunch of bad shots.That does not bode well.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:09 pm

Okie State trying to give it away.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:11 pm

Maybe they can miss a couple of more fts so KU can pull this thing out

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:12 pm

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:13 pm

Let's see. Kansas loses another home game to a lower level team, which includes ASU and UW. I would say Kansas would be around 9th place if they were playing in the Pac-12.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:14 pm

Technical Win

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Are they going to jump up to #5 in the polls now?

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:21 pm

NYCat wrote:Are they going to jump up to #5 in the polls now?

....but not ahead of Duke.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:45 pm

This is why I love having enfuego here.

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