Game 21, vs Colorado (2017-2018)

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:03 pm

dmjcat wrote:And we STILL have no clue how to attack a zone

TatetheGreat wrote:
dmjcat wrote:And we STILL have no clue how to attack a zone
If it hasn't happened by year nine, it's never gonna happen.

well it's certainly not encouraging is it

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:03 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:
pc in NM wrote:7:41 left in the half and Ayton has two shots??

WTF???
They clogg the passing lanes with the zone and collapse on him with 2-3 people.

So what??? He's the best big man in the country - and in Arizona history - and He's the third or fourth option on offense.

No excuse whatsoever

Post by **UAdevil** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:04 pm

pc in NM wrote:Sean Miller has zero idea/motivation how to use a player of Ayton's size and skill...

... no other 7-footer should ever come here

I'm in denial no longer. Miller: Great, GREAT recruiter/ambassador, mediocre at best coach.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:04 pm

How often have you seen him pass out and get a return pass...

... Miller has no clue!!

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:04 pm

pc in NM wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:
pc in NM wrote:7:41 left in the half and Ayton has two shots??

WTF???
They clogg the passing lanes with the zone and collapse on him with 2-3 people.
So what??? He's the best big man in the country - and in Arizona history - and He's the third or fourth option on offense.

No excuse whatsoever

Are you watching? They triple team him. Unacceptable if he takes shots when triple teamed

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:06 pm

Tie game.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:06 pm

Tied let's go!

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:07 pm

What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:08 pm

Sumlin seems pretty chill and down to earth. Think he would've sat there all game...

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:09 pm

UAdevil wrote:
pc in NM wrote:Sean Miller has zero idea/motivation how to use a player of Ayton's size and skill...

... no other 7-footer should ever come here
I'm in denial no longer. Miller: Great, GREAT recruiter/ambassador, mediocre at best coach.

I'm not sure about the Great Recruiter tag. Once we get through sanctions we'll find out if Miller really is a great recruiter or if our past recruiting success was due to Book & Bags of Money.

Miller is an excellent defensive coach with mid-major offensive coaching skills.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:09 pm

2:18 - Ayton STILL has only two shots!!!

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:11 pm

BearDown89 wrote:Sumlin seems pretty chill and down to earth. Think he would've sat there all game...

Have to admit. . . I have a morbid curiosity as to what the Rich Rod Basketball Universe looks like. Ah well.

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:12 pm

Lead.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:12 pm

pc in NM wrote:What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

Biggest problem is he's playing Ayton on the high block because Ristic is occupying what space Ayton should have. With a shooter like Lauri that works fine enough.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:13 pm

hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:14 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Trier didn't dribble out the clock

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:15 pm

30 all at the half.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:15 pm

Tie game at half 30-30. One big difference between this game and the 1st game at Cu (where they led 45-29) is that PJC has not been grossly abused by the Buffs PG.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:15 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Still in shock

etank34 · Post by **etank34** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:16 pm

The only way to force them to stop putting at least 3 guys around Ayton is if we start making outside shots.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:17 pm

Overall happy with the defense. Some random brain farts but overall doing some nice things. The long rebound/fast break points is what is killing us. Missed way too many open 3s.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:17 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Woo Hoo!!! We're tied with a mediocre, no-name team from a below-average conference at the half!!!!

Bear Down Arizona!!!

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:19 pm

etank34 wrote:The only way to force them to stop putting at least 3 guys around Ayton is if we start making outside shots.

Thats one way to loosen up a zone.........the other way is to break down the zone with penetration and force the bigs to stop the
penetrator. Unfortunately, we rarely do that. Our game plan against the zone appears to be: Pass the ball around the perimeter until the shot clock drops to 5 seconds and then:

1) Jack up an NBA 3
2) Jack up a contested college 3
3) Let the shot clock expire

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:20 pm

LOL!!! Miller would play Shaq at the high post!!!

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:20 pm

pc in NM wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!
Woo Hoo!!! We're tied with a mediocre, no-name team from a below-average conference at the half!!!!

Bear Down Arizona!!!

you mistake my amazement at making a shot to end the half with happiness at the score.

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:22 pm

good gawd I cannot stand Casey Jacobsen and his donkey little buddy. FS1 blows.

These refs suck too. Trier should have gotten an and one on his drive.

Ayton touches the ball, but they call it before he can dunk it.

McKale sucks tonight. Lame ass crowd. Tad talks shit about your team and you show up late and cheer a little bit here and there.

We are trying to win a conference championship and work our way back to a top seed in the NCAA gawd dammit... our players need to show up! play with fire! play for your damn coach.

One positive- defense much better than first game.

SteveKerrsStroke · Post by **SteveKerrsStroke** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:22 pm

OSUCat wrote:Overall happy with the defense. Some random brain farts but overall doing some nice things. The long rebound/fast break points is what is killing us. Missed way too many open 3s.

I thought so too - I only started following around the last 10 minutes of the half but I was impressed (by our relative standards) at the rotations and closeouts. Granted it is only against the Buffs, but still something to be positive about.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:22 pm

Our best shot was in '14 because we had a NBA PG and played team defense. The talent was secondary to those two things.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:24 pm

pc in NM wrote:What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

you know he is averaging 20 and 11 right?

Way more than Embiid (Self), Zach Randolph (Izzo), Jaren Jackson (Izzo), Jahlil Okafor (K), Harry Giles (K) etc, etc. Pretty much any freshman big any of those coaches have ever coached besides Bagley. And you can throw Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony-Towns in there for Cal and still none of them compare.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:27 pm

LOL imagine if we were introducing Ken N tonight.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:29 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:
pc in NM wrote:What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!
you know he is averaging 20 and 11 right?

Way more than Embiid (Self), Zach Randolph (Izzo), Jaren Jackson (Izzo), Jahlil Okafor (K), Harry Giles (K) etc, etc. Pretty much any freshman big any of those coaches have ever coached besides Bagley.

He's one of the most awesome talents I've ever seen as a frosh. He does get his stuff.... eventually.

But, please,. Talk about how he was utilized in the first half of THIS GAME.

Is that what you want to see with this talent???

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:32 pm

DS3!!!

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:32 pm

^ I was at the Oregon game when Coach N was supposedly offered, thought he might be announced that game...woulda been rough reception, made that comment at the game if we woulda announced him right then, might be a near riot. That game was tense.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:33 pm

Now this is more like it!

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:33 pm

Intensity!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:33 pm

Tad needs time!

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:36 pm

Smith is playing better offensively than Rawle right now

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:36 pm

another way to breakdown a zone is pressure on the other end, leading to more transition buckets before the zone is set up

source: GOOGLE

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:37 pm

Anyone 6'6''+ can back down Ristic

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:37 pm

well that T took a while for boil to get

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:38 pm

OMG that Hell Yes sign.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:39 pm

T him up!

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:40 pm

Second half comeback in effect. I guess we have to be reminded of our mortality every first half.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:43 pm

"Tad Boyle is one of the classiest coaches in the conference"

Says who? This announcer needs to stop fellating this bum.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:44 pm

qwertyus wrote:"Tad Boyle is one of the classiest coaches in the conference"

Says who? This announcer needs to stop fellating this bum.

TAD is no more than a BOIL on AZ's buttocks

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:44 pm

ira called bank on that ft

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:45 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:ira called bank on that ft

I'd only believe that if he had banked in the 2nd one too lol

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:46 pm

loving the made FT's today

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:48 pm

ristic killin em

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:48 pm

Casey "I was huge in Europe" Jacobsen is the worst thing about this game so far.

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