Allonzo Trier

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 pm

I can't believe this crap.... How many times does this kid need to be fucked over by the people who are "supposed" to have his best interest at heart? I've practically become robotic over the last decade but I feel for Zo.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:39 pm

BibbysTowelDude wrote:I can't believe this crap.... How many times does this kid need to be fucked over by the people who are "supposed" to have his best interest at heart? I've practically become robotic over the last decade but I feel for Zo.

Zo doesnt deserve any of this bullshit.

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:39 pm

Also best case scenario short of NCAA coming to its senses

is to sit him out until the first round of the big dance and then let him play. We keep regular season and or PAC-12 Tourney titles. They can vacate a bad NCAA run, or they can vacate a final four/title run. NCAA can act like it never happened but we'll all know it did. Hang the fucking banner until eternity too if it happens. Just don't put the NCAA name or logo on it ha.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:41 pm

You guys wonder why he’s an assassin that plays hero ball. Shit like this will do that to anyone.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:45 pm

Olsondogg wrote:You guys wonder why he’s an assassin that plays hero ball. Shit like this will do that to anyone.

Interesting take.

I do feel bad for Zo. He seems innocent here, and he's repped the program well during his years in Tucson. Hopefully he gets some better news in the coming days.

Like I said, Bilas is a lawyer and knows his shit. If he's saying this ruling is bogus, there's a chance this gets overturned.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:45 pm

I assume that he's been tested between when he was re-instated and now, why the fuck is *whatever the banned substance is* showing up again????? What the hell is going on???

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:48 pm

Trier should sue the NCAA. They are jeopardizing his opportunity at financial freedom. Also tack on punitive damages for the mental anguish.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:49 pm

zonagrad wrote:Trier should sue the NCAA. They are jeopardizing his opportunity at financial freedom. Also tack on punitive damages for the mental anguish.

I’m no lawyer but I approve this message.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:50 pm

BibbysTowelDude wrote:I can't believe this crap.... How many times does this kid need to be fucked over by the people who are "supposed" to have his best interest at heart? I've practically become robotic over the last decade but I feel for Zo.

The impact for idiotic decisions like this goes well past Zo. This is the shit that sends kids to Europe or gives legs to the idea of morons like LeVar Ball starting a developmental league.

TJATUA · Post by **TJATUA** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:52 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Bilas on our side gives me hope. He's the smartest, most ethical college hoops commentator.

It's all about the NCAA's response time and how quickly the levels can get below whatever the threshold is.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:53 pm

qwertyus wrote:I assume that he's been tested between when he was re-instated and now, why the fuck is *whatever the banned substance is* showing up again????? What the hell is going on???

Substances can be stored in body cells and reemerge in later tests. One way in which the NCAA tests make zero sense is the lack of accounting for this vs when a substance is actually active.

His body had some of the substance recur from storage. It's arbitrary in every way.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:56 pm

This is just setting up for an epic NCAA run and something that makes all this shit worth it.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:58 pm

Alex Barcello could be our Nick Foles.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:03 pm

jsbowl16 wrote:Alex Barcello could be our Nick Foles.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Yeah, right.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:04 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Trier should sue the NCAA. They are jeopardizing his opportunity at financial freedom. Also tack on punitive damages for the mental anguish.

I’m no lawyer but I approve this message.

X3

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:08 pm

X4

Cats should just let him play in the tourney.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:12 pm

Olsondogg wrote:This is just setting up for an epic NCAA run and something that makes all this shit worth it.

With all that's happened and yet to happen nothing would surprise me at this point. Never in all my years as a Cat fan can I remember a season with so much drama. Expecting the unexpected has become the norm this year. For some reason I think Trier may be back but down deep I know that's very unlikely. It will be interesting to see who rises up to the occasion. What a season it's been.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:15 pm

With this team, the only one I can see rising up to the occasion is PJC. Without Trier, I think PJC will do a lot more scoring. I just don't really see anyone on the bench who would/could step it up. So depressing to have only one freshman who is contributing

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:32 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:With this team, the only one I can see rising up to the occasion is PJC. Without Trier, I think PJC will do a lot more scoring. I just don't really see anyone on the bench who would/could step it up. So depressing to have only one freshman who is contributing

Yeah I was hoping the freshman would be more influential at this point but it just hasn't worked out. Alkins and PJC will just have to score more and hopefully someone like Smith can provide a spark.

WildHolcs · Post by **WildHolcs** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:45 pm

This can't be f'ing real life...I hate the NCAA more than ever

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:53 pm

Well smith seems to do better as a starter. Let's just hope Randolph can do his part. Hope it gets cleared up by next game

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:55 pm

Trier has a lawyer pulling every legal lever that exists, so if there's any possible way to restore his eligibility, it will happen. This is obviously time-sensitive, and I wonder if the NCAA could be liable for personal damages if they sit on this for a month.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:00 pm

i immediately inquired about double jeopardy and the inability to be guilty and punished twice after cleared of the same crime???

seems like a fishing expedition to me...

i was told “the NCAA gives no shit about anyone”.

very comforting

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:08 pm

The NCAA has no business punishing anyone for drugs that it doesn't understand.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:41 pm

when I first heard about this, i misunderstood, thought he had taken something new.

after hearing/reading what is actually going on....just fuck the ncaa, seriously they can do die in a fire

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:42 pm

Alieberman wrote:I honestly don't care if I see any personal attacks on Machina... I'm so sick of the BS he brings here day in and day out just to be contrarian.

duly noted

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:14 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Ray Smith tears his ACL 3 times.

Wisconsin beats us twice in the EE.

Zo pops dirty twice for the same thing twice.

I can't emotionally invest in this any more.

Right there with you. Draining.

Feel horrible for Zo and Miller.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:14 pm

I hate quoting Goodman. But.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:24 pm

Thanks for posting that Odogg,

I feel really awful for Trier and a horrible terrible thing to have to deal with.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:28 pm

Olsondogg wrote:I hate quoting Goodman. But.

That's what doubly pisses me off about the NCAA. All the stuff out there, and they're ****ing with Trier...why?

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:16 pm

NCAA wants people to return to school, maybe they shouldn't pull horse shit like this

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:42 pm

Would media backlash put pressure on the NCAA to act rationally about this? This really is the most punitive and senseless thing imaginable.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:45 pm

The contracts, the constant movement of players and the greed of owners has ruined all the sports I used to love. The NCAA is killing the one sport I have left that I still love.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:53 pm

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:55 pm

It's that familiar symptom of insanity where I keep hitting the refresh button in hopes of some kind of news or indication about the Trier situation. Even on websites that have nothing to do with it.

SteveKerrsStroke · Post by **SteveKerrsStroke** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:56 pm

So after soaking up all the information that came out tonight...

Are we essentially back into the 2016-2017 holding pattern of Trier being tested weekly and him being cleared when levels of whatever drug are below the threshold?

If so call me delusional in wondering if he hydrates and can be ruled eligible for next weeks games. The guy was probably hungover or something when he had the random early morning test.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:58 pm

We are due break sometime you'd think. Of course, not Zo's fault to begin with so that would be asking too much.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:59 pm

If Miller is hopeful it can be resolved by tommorow I am too.

jajoyce · Post by **jajoyce** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:00 pm

NYCat wrote:If Miller is hopeful it can be resolved by tommorow I am too.

Did CSM allude to this in post-game?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:01 pm

Longhorned wrote:Would media backlash put pressure on the NCAA to act rationally about this? This really is the most punitive and senseless thing imaginable.

The media backlash has been impressive, it’s the only thing giving my hope with this situation.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:01 pm

jajoyce wrote:
NYCat wrote:If Miller is hopeful it can be resolved by tommorow I am too.
Did CSM allude to this in post-game?

See Moreno's tweet above

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:02 pm

SteveKerrsStroke wrote:So after soaking up all the information that came out tonight...

Are we essentially back into the 2016-2017 holding pattern of Trier being tested weekly and him being cleared when levels of whatever drug are below the threshold?

If so call me delusional in wondering if he hydrates and can be ruled eligible for next weeks games. The guy was probably hungover or something when he had the random early morning test.

I think so, though the appeal is about breaking out of that pattern. The original appeal allowed him to return once the substance was out of his system. This new decision renegs on those terms by declaring him ineligible after he satisfied the terms of the original appeal.

SteveKerrsStroke · Post by **SteveKerrsStroke** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:07 pm

Longhorned wrote:
I think so, though the appeal is about breaking out of that pattern. The original appeal allowed him to return once the substance was out of his system. This new decision renegs on those terms by declaring him ineligible after he satisfied the terms of the original appeal.

This is ludicrous. Not surprising with the NCAA, but wow. Curious what the by-laws are for this type of situation. If the NCAA sticks to this line I would love to see Trier's representation take them to court and see how this joke of an organization holds up.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:07 pm

Olsondogg wrote:The contracts, the constant movement of players and the greed of owners has ruined all the sports I used to love. The NCAA is killing the one sport I have left that I still love.

This!

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:11 pm

Good point.

That's just because you're an asshole.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:16 pm

Fu#k the NCAA. Call, email and tell them they suck Rick Majerus balls. Time to take action on this BS

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:23 pm

We can say fuck BTW, no need to censor it

Fuck the NCAA

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:25 pm

NYCat wrote:We can say fuck BTW, no need to censor it

Fuck the NCAA

Good then. So tired of these corrupt mother fuckers.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:27 pm

azcat49 wrote:Fu#k the NCAA. Call, email and tell them they suck Rick Majerus balls. Time to take action on this BS

Hey now, let Coach Majerus rest in peace.

Fuck the NCAA

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:28 pm

Porca putana. Va fan culo, NCAA. Non me ne sbatte un cazzo.

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