2018 PAC 12 Tournament--TMobile Arena

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:34 pm

Played Rado:
2012 - Finals - lost
2013 - 2nd rd - won
2014 - Semis - won
2016 - 2nd rd - won
2017 - 2nd rd - won

Bring 'em on.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:36 pm

we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:40 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament

Oops, you're right. Fixed it.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:57 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament

The WeedGuardU aftermath game.

Josiah, Josiah. I mean, he wasn't great, but we would have beat Colorado that game with him. Their pressure and our lack of a true PG were a recipe for disaster late. That was the closest I have ever sat for a PAC-12/10 tournament game, and I have been to quite a few. Just about on the court, and cheap. That was the positive and negative of Staples Center games. No LA team? Cheap upgrades via the guy on the corner.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:08 pm

EVCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament
The WeedGuardU aftermath game.

Josiah, Josiah. I mean, he wasn't great, but we would have beat Colorado that game with him. Their pressure and our lack of a true PG were a recipe for disaster late. That was the closest I have ever sat for a PAC-12/10 tournament game, and I have been to quite a few. Just about on the court, and cheap. That was the positive and negative of Staples Center games. No LA team? Cheap upgrades via the guy on the corner.

By that point, we were a dying animal looking for a grave to fall into. Losing to Bucknell in the NIT was actually falling into the grave.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:09 pm

hey guys, asu sucks lol

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:09 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
EVCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament
The WeedGuardU aftermath game.

Josiah, Josiah. I mean, he wasn't great, but we would have beat Colorado that game with him. Their pressure and our lack of a true PG were a recipe for disaster late. That was the closest I have ever sat for a PAC-12/10 tournament game, and I have been to quite a few. Just about on the court, and cheap. That was the positive and negative of Staples Center games. No LA team? Cheap upgrades via the guy on the corner.
By that point, we were a dying animal looking for a grave to fall into. Losing to Bucknell in the NIT was actually falling into the grave.

I can't remember who ended up winning the NIT that year. Or the year after. Or the year after that.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:17 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
EVCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament
The WeedGuardU aftermath game.

Josiah, Josiah. I mean, he wasn't great, but we would have beat Colorado that game with him. Their pressure and our lack of a true PG were a recipe for disaster late. That was the closest I have ever sat for a PAC-12/10 tournament game, and I have been to quite a few. Just about on the court, and cheap. That was the positive and negative of Staples Center games. No LA team? Cheap upgrades via the guy on the corner.
By that point, we were a dying animal looking for a grave to fall into. Losing to Bucknell in the NIT was actually falling into the grave.
I can't remember who ended up winning the NIT that year. Or the year after. Or the year after that.

I'm sure some team actually won and got to say "We're #69!"

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:26 pm

I love the NIT for allowing schools who win their small conference regular seasons but get upset in a 3 game tournament a place to continue playing.

It makes for some interesting upsets, for sure. Like us. Or then ASU, which led to the great video of fat ASU fan punching and kicking a wall in WFA.

For that alone, the NIT is necessary.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:54 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
EVCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:we lost to colorado in the 2012 finals...that kicked us out of the tournament
The WeedGuardU aftermath game.

Josiah, Josiah. I mean, he wasn't great, but we would have beat Colorado that game with him. Their pressure and our lack of a true PG were a recipe for disaster late. That was the closest I have ever sat for a PAC-12/10 tournament game, and I have been to quite a few. Just about on the court, and cheap. That was the positive and negative of Staples Center games. No LA team? Cheap upgrades via the guy on the corner.
By that point, we were a dying animal looking for a grave to fall into. Losing to Bucknell in the NIT was actually falling into the grave.
I can't remember who ended up winning the NIT that year. Or the year after. Or the year after that.

I went to that game. The shame I felt walking out of McKale. Just a disgusting moment, never again

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:34 pm

Good call for those who chose Rado over ASU!...I was really conflicted on this and ended up on ASU based on scores of previous meetings, not wanting to jinx, etc. I did think ASU would win BUT what a great way to wake up this AM. “Can’t Guard U”

SO HAPPY to lose that point!

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:44 pm

Trae Holder got ejected with 7 seconds left in the game for going off on a COlorado player who did a showboat dunk while everyone was dribbling out the game...not saying he shouldn't got tossed, but 7 seconds...and it was a "Steve Alford" kind of dunk with Co up and in control of ball, dribbling out clock...

Not anASU fan of course, but Trae is a decent kid and let his emotions get the best of him...Bobbly Hurley is a TURRIBLE coach...he showed videos of when they were winning to prep his team for the Pac 12 tourney...obviously not an X's and O's kind of guy...idiot.

Fell kinda bad for holder though...if he had ever been taught to play defense he might not be so emotional...

They basically played no defense, either team...

Frankly I hope Ayton and team hand them their ass...

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:47 pm

I honestly don't have a problem with what Holder did. Sort of weird timing and dumb though. The shot clock was running out so why wouldn't CU take an easy bucket? Also, if they do make the tourney, he put himself in position to be suspended the first game. So, it was dumb in that situation, but I don't mind it. I kind of like the fire. Like Pinder standing up for Deandre.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:28 pm

Can the Colorado player who got ejected miss tomorrow's game?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:31 pm

Irish27 wrote:Can the Colorado player who got ejected miss tomorrow's game?

They said he's eligible.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:43 pm

Games like this WSU/Oregon game is why I'm glad we have Walton. Anyone else on the call and I'd be falling asleep. Can't believe we lost to this dogshit Oregon team.

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:47 pm

I have seen 4X as many Wildcat fans in these games than any other kind...McKale North and we haven't even played yet...watching the broadcast outside the t-mobile arena mostly cats fans wandering around...

Bear Down, Fuck Larry Scott and Espin and Mark Schala-not-back-yet...AND DickV i litle...

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:50 pm

Bad loss for UW.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:55 pm

84Cat wrote:Bad loss for UW.

Yeah they're 100% out now

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:00 am

our first game thread is up

....and I know I'm late here, but....it is so fitting, and fucking hilarious, that ASsU went from top 5 ranked to NIT in the same season.

ahahahahahahahahahah

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:17 am

Flight takes off in 15. Bear Down, motherfuckers

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:17 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:our first game thread is up

....and I know I'm late here, but....it is so fitting, and fucking hilarious, that ASsU went from top 5 ranked to NIT in the same season.

ahahahahahahahahahah

I wonder what type of fan support they will get once they accept that they are NIT bound?

They ought to put the wall back up so it looks closer to a NIT sell-out on TV. Commentator should be Dick Vital - they deserve him.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:19 am

Olsondogg wrote:Flight takes off in 15. Bear Down, motherfuckers

We want pics of "The Beer Meeting"

Have a great time and Bear Down!

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:22 am

Who wants to meet up after the game later in the afternoon?

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:41 am

btfd16 wrote:I honestly don't have a problem with what Holder did. Sort of weird timing and dumb though. The shot clock was running out so why wouldn't CU take an easy bucket? Also, if they do make the tourney, he put himself in position to be suspended the first game. So, it was dumb in that situation, but I don't mind it. I kind of like the fire. Like Pinder standing up for Deandre.

You have words...not a physical confrontation that is going to set off other issues.

And that whole being suspended thing is kind of big. As is his counting on restraint from the guy who could have ended him with a punch.

There is fire. There is standing up for a teammate, using force to get someone away from your teammate. Blindly shoving someone for hurting your feelings is not fire. It's a lack of control.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:55 am

Olsondogg wrote:Flight takes off in 15. Bear Down, motherfuckers

Bad ass. Bear down Odogg! Embrace the hate!

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:57 am

There's a pretty big difference between what Keanu did and what Holder did. Keanu literally threw himself in the middle to block Ayton out of the confrontation, which so frequently becomes a double tech in college, even if there's no words exchanged. Holder created a situation by injecting himself (or should I say propelling himself?).

What Keanu did was brilliant, because he knows that a tech for him doesn't matter even 1% as much as a tech for Ayton. Holder was just trying to start shit

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:39 am

Any posters @ PBR now?

Dosia · Post by **Dosia** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:32 pm

Beerhaus after the UCLA game?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:19 pm

On to the next one.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:21 pm

when THIS Arizona team gets competent to solid play or anything above that from its PG they are very, very, very tough to beat.

very

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:26 pm

Dosia wrote:Beerhaus after the UCLA game?

Hey if your in Vegas show up and grab a beer between sessions

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:29 pm

97cats wrote:when THIS Arizona team gets competent to solid play or anything above that from its PG they are very, very, very tough to beat.

very

That was a nice oblique PJC compliment, 97

I'll take it!

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:51 pm

Lol zero UCLA fans here for their 2:45 tip

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:56 pm

SCCats wrote:Lol zero UCLA fans here for their 2:45 tip

Still stuck in LA traffic?

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:56 pm

SCCats wrote:Lol zero UCLA fans here for their 2:45 tip

UCLA doesn't have fans, not even at home...

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:59 pm

But I mean this is theoretically a good 4/5 game at a time that isn’t hard to make coming from la Thursday morning and still...ghost town

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:16 pm

SCCats wrote:Lol zero UCLA fans here for their 2:45 tip

So it should feel like a home game for the Bruins

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:20 pm

NYCat wrote:
SCCats wrote:Lol zero UCLA fans here for their 2:45 tip
So it should feel like a home game for the Bruins

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:48 pm

Holliday is going to torch little PJC, Hands will probably get some more heat check 3s but hopefully we get payback

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:53 pm

SCCats wrote:Lol zero UCLA fans here for their 2:45 tip

Good, hopefully it remains that way tomorrow.

Turns out I'm making the trip down with two of my family members. So excited.

Post by **UAdevil** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:54 pm

Nick on again. Reppin' UA as usual!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:55 pm

Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:03 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.

Gonna need to figure out how to contain Holiday, and the answer is unlikely to be "PJC."

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:14 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.
Gonna need to figure out how to contain Holiday, and the answer is unlikely to be "PJC."

Do you double him and make the other guys beat you, or let him go for 40?

He's clearly the hottest player in the Pac at the moment, so Miller has his work cut out prepping for tomorrow. I don't trust any of our guards to stay with him.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:45 pm

Anyone want to grab a beer tonight, at aria right now?

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:05 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.
Gonna need to figure out how to contain Holiday, and the answer is unlikely to be "PJC."
Do you double him and make the other guys beat you, or let him go for 40?

He's clearly the hottest player in the Pac at the moment, so Miller has his work cut out prepping for tomorrow. I don't trust any of our guards to stay with him.

We just don't match up well with UCLA. No one on our team can guard Holiday. If another player gets hot for the Bruins tomorrow the result could be very similar to the loss at Mckale. I think it will be closer this time. I'm guessing it goes into OT.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:06 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.
Gonna need to figure out how to contain Holiday, and the answer is unlikely to be "PJC."
Do you double him and make the other guys beat you, or let him go for 40?

He's clearly the hottest player in the Pac at the moment, so Miller has his work cut out prepping for tomorrow. I don't trust any of our guards to stay with him.

We've all been at this watching-on-our-asses long enough to know how this goes down. You don't adjust by way of personnel or the system. In the second go-around, you don't stick Ashley on Kaminsky, and not expect Ashley to get sent to the bench with his second foul with 18:00 to go in the first half. No. You stick with what you've got, and ride it. And you try to put together a solid game within your system.

1) You live with the hell of trying to defend Holliday.

2) You don't let Welsh control the boards and get a double-double. No. One of your two 7-footers outrebounds Welsh this time around.

3) You don't let Gigi Goloman stretch the floor and take over the game. You say, "No. That's Gigi Goloman, not George Gervin. I'm going to break this schoolboy."

4) You don't let Hands go nuts from the perimeter in the first half.

5) You don't let Rawle have a black hole game like he did against UCLA last time. That right there alone is the difference between winning and losing, even if 2-4 somehow go wrong again.

6) You don't let Ayton have the kind of sub-par game he had against ULCA last time, and Colorado last night. Time to get him touches, and time for the best player in college basketball to step up and play like he can.

7) You defend with intensity this time.

It's not about adjustments. It's about doing the things you do better this time around. You do some of 1-7 better this time and you beat UCLA.

Full stop.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:48 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.
Gonna need to figure out how to contain Holiday, and the answer is unlikely to be "PJC."
Do you double him and make the other guys beat you, or let him go for 40?

He's clearly the hottest player in the Pac at the moment, so Miller has his work cut out prepping for tomorrow. I don't trust any of our guards to stay with him.
We've all been at this watching-on-our-asses long enough to know how this goes down. You don't adjust by way of personnel or the system. In the second go-around, you don't stick Ashley on Kaminsky, and not expect Ashley to get sent to the bench with his second foul with 18:00 to go in the first half. No. You stick with what you've got, and ride it. And you try to put together a solid game within your system.

1) You live with the hell of trying to defend Holliday.

2) You don't let Welsh control the boards and get a double-double. No. One of your two 7-footers outrebounds Welsh this time around.

3) You don't let Gigi Goloman stretch the floor and take over the game. You say, "No. That's Gigi Goloman, not George Gervin. I'm going to break this schoolboy."

4) You don't let Hands go nuts from the perimeter in the first half.

5) You don't let Rawle have a black hole game like he did against UCLA last time. That right there alone is the difference between winning and losing, even if 2-4 somehow go wrong again.

6) You don't let Ayton have the kind of sub-par game he had against ULCA last time, and Colorado last night. Time to get him touches, and time for the best player in college basketball to step up and play like he can.

7) You defend with intensity this time.

It's not about adjustments. It's about doing the things you do better this time around. You do some of 1-7 better this time and you beat UCLA.

Full stop.

Not that I disagree with your points (because they are accurate and needed), but Sean did start Keanu vs Oregon in Vegas last year, and that really threw Brooks off his game. So I would not be shocked for a change up tomorrow.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:12 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Gotta beat those a-holes tomorrow. I hate Alford.
Gonna need to figure out how to contain Holiday, and the answer is unlikely to be "PJC."
Do you double him and make the other guys beat you, or let him go for 40?

He's clearly the hottest player in the Pac at the moment, so Miller has his work cut out prepping for tomorrow. I don't trust any of our guards to stay with him.
We've all been at this watching-on-our-asses long enough to know how this goes down. You don't adjust by way of personnel or the system. In the second go-around, you don't stick Ashley on Kaminsky, and not expect Ashley to get sent to the bench with his second foul with 18:00 to go in the first half. No. You stick with what you've got, and ride it. And you try to put together a solid game within your system.

1) You live with the hell of trying to defend Holliday.

2) You don't let Welsh control the boards and get a double-double. No. One of your two 7-footers outrebounds Welsh this time around.

3) You don't let Gigi Goloman stretch the floor and take over the game. You say, "No. That's Gigi Goloman, not George Gervin. I'm going to break this schoolboy."

4) You don't let Hands go nuts from the perimeter in the first half.

5) You don't let Rawle have a black hole game like he did against UCLA last time. That right there alone is the difference between winning and losing, even if 2-4 somehow go wrong again.

6) You don't let Ayton have the kind of sub-par game he had against ULCA last time, and Colorado last night. Time to get him touches, and time for the best player in college basketball to step up and play like he can.

7) You defend with intensity this time.

It's not about adjustments. It's about doing the things you do better this time around. You do some of 1-7 better this time and you beat UCLA.

Full stop.

A-freaking-men, LH! Excellent breakdown and insight. We’re better than UCLA, like usual, so it kills me when we don’t impose our will on them. They’ve got some wind in their sails, but if we play hard and smart, we should control the game and win by 5 to 10.

It’s March for chrisakes. Time for this AZ team to win big games, starting tomorrow.

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