2018-2019 Arizona Basketball

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:45 pm

catgrad97 wrote:Does it bother anybody else how many of our incoming sophomores under Miller we always root for "hopefully having resolved confidence issues" from their freshman year?

Akot, Barcello, PJC, Daniel Bejarano, Solomon Hill...the beat goes on.

Why?

Trier and Rawle did just fine. Pretty sure Gabe did too.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:51 pm

I didn't say they all did. But, to me at least, a concerning number have, especially in the last three cycles.

A strong point guard would do wonders to change this arrest of development.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:55 pm

catgrad97 wrote:Does it bother anybody else how many of our incoming sophomores under Miller we always root for "hopefully having resolved confidence issues" from their freshman year?

Akot, Barcello, PJC, Daniel Bejarano, Solomon Hill...the beat goes on.

Why?

Not really. Compare to Duke in terms of relative disappointments in confidence.

Duke has Giles, Jeter, Thornton, Duval, Ojeyelye just in recent years. All of them struggled significantly compared to their HS expectations.

The transition from HS to college isn't usually easy.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:57 pm

catgrad97 wrote:A strong point guard would do wonders to change this arrest of development.

That would also definitely help.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:00 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:Does it bother anybody else how many of our incoming sophomores under Miller we always root for "hopefully having resolved confidence issues" from their freshman year?

Akot, Barcello, PJC, Daniel Bejarano, Solomon Hill...the beat goes on.

Why?
Not really. Compare to Duke in terms of relative disappointments in confidence.

Duke has Giles, Jeter, Thornton, Duval, Ojeyelye just in recent years. All of them struggled significantly compared to their HS expectations.

The transition from HS to college isn't usually easy.

You know exactly what you're getting into at Duke. K just recruits over you if you have any confidence issues. He doesn't have to rely on anyone with fragile self-esteems, or wait for them to mature.

I guess I expected to see some continuation of the freshman-to-sophomore leap under Miller that Lute could so well. But it really hasn't carried over.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:18 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:Does it bother anybody else how many of our incoming sophomores under Miller we always root for "hopefully having resolved confidence issues" from their freshman year?

Akot, Barcello, PJC, Daniel Bejarano, Solomon Hill...the beat goes on.

Why?
Not really. Compare to Duke in terms of relative disappointments in confidence.

Duke has Giles, Jeter, Thornton, Duval, Ojeyelye just in recent years. All of them struggled significantly compared to their HS expectations.

The transition from HS to college isn't usually easy.
You know exactly what you're getting into at Duke. K just recruits over you if you have any confidence issues. He doesn't have to rely on anyone with fragile self-esteems, or wait for them to mature.

I guess I expected to see some continuation of the freshman-to-sophomore leap under Miller that Lute could so well. But it really hasn't carried over.

Eh, there are differences. Lute never had to deal with one and dones. We'd have seen a sophomore jump from AG, SJ and others.

DWill had arguably the biggest freshman/soph jump in Arizona history. Nick Johnson improved tremendously. Dusan got much better. Gabe got better.

I think you're underrating player development.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:21 pm

Personally I think many of us are underestimating Barcello. I happen to think he will rise to the challenge next season. He didn't play much this year and I felt at times nothing could be worse than leaving PJC out there to flounder hopelessly and at times running our offense into the abyss. There's so much doubt and negative speculation over the PG position next year but I haven't given up on Barcello and I think many people are going to be pleasantly surprised with his improvement next year. He won't be able to do it all on his own but if we can get one quality PG to share the duties I think the Cats can and will be very competitive. We may have a donut offense (no center) but I'd rather have a good PF or two and good guard play consistently. The biggest thing is developing better offensive flow. It was truly painful to watch most of Arizona's games this year because of the lack of fluidity on offense. Drove me nuts.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:49 pm

Pac-12 ranked by returning players 2017-18 Win Shares:

17.6 Oregon
17.5 Washington (with Noah Dickerson)
13.5 OSU
12.1 Stanford (with Travis Reid)
11.5 Tempe Normal
11.5 Colorado
11.0 USC
7.2 Utah
7.0 UCLA
3.5 WSU
3.3 California
2.8 Arizona

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:17 pm

KaibabKat wrote:Pac-12 ranked by returning players 2017-18 Win Shares:

17.6 Oregon
17.5 Washington (with Noah Dickerson)
13.5 OSU
12.1 Stanford (with Travis Reid)
11.5 Tempe Normal
11.5 Colorado
11.0 USC
7.2 Utah
7.0 UCLA
3.5 WSU
3.3 California
2.8 Arizona

I mean, we lost all 5 starters. It happens.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:33 am

Freshmen used to be rarely-played bench observers. Upperclassmen have always intimidated Freshmen. That has really only changed in the one and done, or when you have a dynamic freshman. As a 30-100 level recruit, you are going from Godlike status to, if you are at an Arizona, a bunch of similar players and, likely, a starting lineup of highly-rated recruits now in their 2nd or 3rd year.

Unless you are super elite, you are going to be intimidated. Add to that a player like a Trier who wasn't really all that kumbayah. And a senior PG holding on for dear life...I don't imagine there are lots of places where incumbents are super psyched about players who might replace them. So you have culture shock moving to college, maybe homesickness, and, if at a top program, a shit ton of talent to beat out.

I don't think it is a Miller thing. The elite freshmen seemed to be OK. But the ones who have better players in front of them? Didn't play. And then they get a full season, get an off season, know the speed of the game, know what it is like to have 14000 people yelling at you, and, if they possessed the talent that got them a national 45 ranking or whatever, it will start to show.

It is mental, in a lot of cases. It is also about identifying your weaknesses and working on them. It is really hard to tell a top 100 high schooler that they need to keep their dribble down, or stop hitching on their shot, or to pull up at 12 rather than drive into the defense they used to beat with hang time at College Prep High...until they see it.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:49 am

Co-signing all of that, EV.

Part of why I don't want grad transfers... give the young guys room to play.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:57 am

EVCat wrote:Freshmen used to be rarely-played bench observers.

Made me think of this image, with long time NBAers Sean Rooks and Jud Buechler on the bench as redshirt freshmen, aka the Gumbies.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:23 am

catgrad97 wrote:Does it bother anybody else how many of our incoming sophomores under Miller we always root for "hopefully having resolved confidence issues" from their freshman year?

Akot, Barcello, PJC, Daniel Bejarano, Solomon Hill...the beat goes on.

Why?

Completely normal. Stanley and Gordon also dealt with confidence issues for extended periods despite their outstanding freshman seasons. The higher you move up, the more you fail, the more coaches expect from you (criticism), the more you are under the microscope with fans/media/etc.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:37 am

EVCat wrote:Freshmen used to be rarely-played bench observers. Upperclassmen have always intimidated Freshmen. That has really only changed in the one and done, or when you have a dynamic freshman. As a 30-100 level recruit, you are going from Godlike status to, if you are at an Arizona, a bunch of similar players and, likely, a starting lineup of highly-rated recruits now in their 2nd or 3rd year.

Unless you are super elite, you are going to be intimidated. Add to that a player like a Trier who wasn't really all that kumbayah. And a senior PG holding on for dear life...I don't imagine there are lots of places where incumbents are super psyched about players who might replace them. So you have culture shock moving to college, maybe homesickness, and, if at a top program, a shit ton of talent to beat out.

I don't think it is a Miller thing. The elite freshmen seemed to be OK. But the ones who have better players in front of them? Didn't play. And then they get a full season, get an off season, know the speed of the game, know what it is like to have 14000 people yelling at you, and, if they possessed the talent that got them a national 45 ranking or whatever, it will start to show.

It is mental, in a lot of cases. It is also about identifying your weaknesses and working on them. It is really hard to tell a top 100 high schooler that they need to keep their dribble down, or stop hitching on their shot, or to pull up at 12 rather than drive into the defense they used to beat with hang time at College Prep High...until they see it.

You hit on something important. Every top 100 HS recruit has been a superstar for years. They get treated like it by coaches and fans.

Then they're thrown into college and they are no longer a superstar. They're another guy and they see other people who can outplay them. It's a rude awakening to go from the man to just some guy.

The players who handle it well succeed, but it is not odd that it does not occur without some hiccups.

Hank of sb · Post by **Hank of sb** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:40 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:Does it bother anybody else how many of our incoming sophomores under Miller we always root for "hopefully having resolved confidence issues" from their freshman year?

Akot, Barcello, PJC, Daniel Bejarano, Solomon Hill...the beat goes on.

Why?
Completely normal. Stanley and Gordon also dealt with confidence issues for extended periods despite their outstanding freshman seasons. The higher you move up, the more you fail, the more coaches expect from you (criticism), the more you are under the microscope with fans/media/etc.

"Completely normal."

Well then. What a relief.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:04 pm

This post was made by Hank of sb who is currently on your ignore list.

*thinks it over...*

“Maybe I should give him another shot.”

Display post

*looks at some bullshit*

“Nope.”

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:11 pm

NYCat wrote: 1. Chase Jeter
2. Ira Lee
3. Emmanuel Akot
4. Brandon Randolph
5. Alex Barcello
6. Dylan Smith
7. Devonaire Doutrive
8. Omar Thielemans
9. Ryan Luther
10. ____
11. ____
12. ____
13. ____

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:11 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:This post was made by Hank of sb who is currently on your ignore list.

*thinks it over...*

“Maybe I should give him another shot.”

Display post

*looks at some bullshit*

“Nope.”

This is one of my favorites.

Thank you.

I'm laughing 10 minutes!

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sat May 05, 2018 4:16 pm

2 spots open, I'm assuming one is definitely open for Brown.

NYCat wrote: 1. Chase Jeter
2. Ira Lee
3. Emmanuel Akot
4. Brandon Randolph
5. Alex Barcello
6. Dylan Smith
7. Devonaire Doutrive
8. Omar Thielemans
9. Ryan Luther
10. Justin Coleman
11. Brandon Williams
12. ____
13. ____

I'm guessing

1/2: Coleman - Williams - Barcello
2: Smith - Randolph - Doutrieve
2/3: Randolph
3: Thielemans
3/4: Akot
4: Luther - Lee
5: Jeter - Luther(?)

I'm guess the starting lineup will be

G: Coleman
G: Williams
F: Akot
F: Luther
F/C: Jeter

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Sat May 05, 2018 5:36 pm

NYCat wrote:2 spots open, I'm assuming one is definitely open for Brown.

NYCat wrote: 1. Chase Jeter
2. Ira Lee
3. Emmanuel Akot
4. Brandon Randolph
5. Alex Barcello
6. Dylan Smith
7. Devonaire Doutrive
8. Omar Thielemans
9. Ryan Luther
10. Justin Coleman
11. Brandon Williams
12. ____
13. ____
I'm guessing

1/2: Coleman - Williams - Barcello
2: Smith - Randolph - Doutrieve
2/3: Randolph
3: Thielemans
3/4: Akot
4: Luther - Lee
5: Jeter - Luther(?)

I'm guess the starting lineup will be

G: Coleman
G: Williams
F: Akot
F: Luther
F/C: Jeter

I'd like to see the wildcats be able to bring on 3+ For 2019. Right now only Coleman and Luther would be for sure gone next year. I have to think the staff is ok having 2 unfilled for next year unless Brown wants one.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sat May 05, 2018 6:21 pm

NYCat wrote:2 spots open, I'm assuming one is definitely open for Brown.

NYCat wrote: 1. Chase Jeter
2. Ira Lee
3. Emmanuel Akot
4. Brandon Randolph
5. Alex Barcello
6. Dylan Smith
7. Devonaire Doutrive
8. Omar Thielemans
9. Ryan Luther
10. Justin Coleman
11. Brandon Williams
12. ____
13. ____
I'm guessing

1/2: Coleman - Williams - Barcello
2: Smith - Randolph - Doutrieve
2/3: Randolph
3: Thielemans
3/4: Akot
4: Luther - Lee
5: Jeter - Luther(?)

I'm guess the starting lineup will be

G: Coleman
G: Williams
F: Akot
F: Luther
F/C: Jeter

Pg: Williams or Coleman.
Sg: Randolph or Smith.
Sf: Akot.
Pf: Luther.
C: Jeter.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat May 05, 2018 6:23 pm

Just remember it's a down year

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat May 05, 2018 6:27 pm

I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat May 05, 2018 8:26 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.

Makes sense to me. Suddenly we’ve got very nice backcourt depth.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sun May 06, 2018 7:18 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.
Makes sense to me. Suddenly we’ve got very nice backcourt depth.

Does this also mean we might see a little bit more of an uptempo offense? Would love to get back to running instead of the slow half-court sets where we can't make a post entry pass.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun May 06, 2018 8:13 am

Having a point guard who can create his own shot will be refreshing.

loomer · Post by **loomer** » Sun May 06, 2018 8:26 am

billk78 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.
Makes sense to me. Suddenly we’ve got very nice backcourt depth.
Does this also mean we might see a little bit more of an uptempo offense? Would love to get back to running instead of the slow half-court sets where we can't make a post entry pass.

"Do what we do." Unless Sean is willing to give Coleman / BWill a longer leash like he did with TJ (2015) and Lyons (2013) it's not happening.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun May 06, 2018 10:02 am

ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.

That is what Scheer tweeted yesterday.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun May 06, 2018 10:03 am

Irish27 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.
That is what Scheer tweeted yesterday.

I'd certainly take his word for it.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun May 06, 2018 10:15 am

loomer wrote:
billk78 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.
Makes sense to me. Suddenly we’ve got very nice backcourt depth.
Does this also mean we might see a little bit more of an uptempo offense? Would love to get back to running instead of the slow half-court sets where we can't make a post entry pass.
"Do what we do." Unless Sean is willing to give Coleman / BWill a longer leash like he did with TJ (2015) and Lyons (2013) it's not happening.

This year will certainly test that. In the past it was because we didn’t have a point guard Miller needed to micromanage. Now that we have one, let’s see what Miller does with him.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun May 06, 2018 10:16 am

coleman/williams would be a good back court i think. crazy that our entire starting 5 and like 6 of our top 7 or 8 players will be people that weren't even in the main like 8 man rotation last season

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun May 06, 2018 11:07 am

ASUHATER! wrote:coleman/williams would be a good back court i think. crazy that our entire starting 5 and like 6 of our top 7 or 8 players will be people that weren't even in the main like 8 man rotation last season

I think it’s kinda exciting actually. A fresh start. I love that these new players will get a chance right away.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sun May 06, 2018 11:23 am

And I am excited to see how our highly-rated Freshmen from last year will develop. If they improve during the offseason, we could see 8 guys getting some serious minutes and wearing down oppontnet.

FWIW, after BWill's commitment yesterday, I am the happiest about the program than I have been since the FBI story and Book's indictment first broke.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun May 06, 2018 11:34 am

BBQ wildcat wrote:FWIW, after BWill's commitment yesterday, I am the happiest about the program than I have been since the FBI story and Book's indictment first broke.

This.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun May 06, 2018 12:03 pm

It was not so long ago that we didn't have enough scholarship players to field a starting 5.

Sean Miller is in fact a witch.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Sun May 06, 2018 1:24 pm

NYCat wrote:I'm guess the starting lineup will be

G: Coleman
G: Williams
F: Akot
F: Luther
F/C: Jeter

My guess as well, FWIW.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun May 06, 2018 3:02 pm

Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun May 06, 2018 3:30 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.

From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Sun May 06, 2018 4:16 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.
From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.

Damn, it Ayton 2.0...then I don’t want him

Jk, and anyone have a sense for why Jeter struggled so much at Duke after being so highly ranked?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun May 06, 2018 4:52 pm

Newportcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.
From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.
Damn, it Ayton 2.0...then I don’t want him

Jk, and anyone have a sense for why Jeter struggled so much at Duke after being so highly ranked?

Little bit of injuries and a little bit of just not feeling comfortable in the system. If you can name a single west coast kid who succeeded at Duke I'd love to hear it (Alaska doesnt count).

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun May 06, 2018 5:00 pm

We can get all the talent we want...miller will have to change his offensive philosophy. I'll get excited after I see the team move the ball around to generate easy shots on a consistent basis. Consistent D will be the cherry on top.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun May 06, 2018 6:00 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.
From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.

This is good to hear. I guess what I'm wondering is if he's a traditional back-to-the-basket center type, or if he's one of these new school big men who thinks he's a wing (like Jerrett). Is he closer to Ristic or Ashley?

If our big man corps ends up being Jeter, Luther, and Lee, we'll manage. But JB would give us the length, versatility and depth to actual contend for a Pac title.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:04 am

ChooChooCat wrote:I got heavy money on Coleman/Williams being the starting backcourt.

I'd take that action, in the sense a bet would need to not involve money, because if I start wagering on AZ basketball starting lineups, I should also start betting the under on "days till my wife divorces me."

Nothing against Coleman/Williams, I just don't think the situation shakes out where they're the best guard options all year and start more than 50% of the games together.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:09 am

Anyone else notice that Michael Cage Jr. is transferring from Oregon? He’d have to sit out a year, but didn’t we recruit him out of HS?

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:11 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.
From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.
Damn, it Ayton 2.0...then I don’t want him

Jk, and anyone have a sense for why Jeter struggled so much at Duke after being so highly ranked?
Little bit of injuries and a little bit of just not feeling comfortable in the system. If you can name a single west coast kid who succeeded at Duke I'd love to hear it (Alaska doesnt count).

Singler

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:15 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.
From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.
This is good to hear. I guess what I'm wondering is if he's a traditional back-to-the-basket center type, or if he's one of these new school big men who thinks he's a wing (like Jerrett). Is he closer to Ristic or Ashley?

If our big man corps ends up being Jeter, Luther, and Lee, we'll manage. But JB would give us the length, versatility and depth to actual contend for a Pac title.

Jeter's offensive game was strictly back to the basket and putbacks at Duke. He was a fairly productive shotblocker, but below what you want as a rebounder.

Unless he developed an entirely new skillset, he should be a traditional 5 on offense. I think he will be a good add on D and his rebounding determines how much I ultimately like him.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:25 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Jeter's offensive game was strictly back to the basket and putbacks at Duke. He was a fairly productive shotblocker, but below what you want as a rebounder.

Unless he developed an entirely new skillset, he should be a traditional 5 on offense. I think he will be a good add on D and his rebounding determines how much I ultimately like him.

That’s helpful, Spiff - thanks.

I wonder if Jeter has it in him to be a 12 point/8 board guy next year. Feel like those would be good numbers from him. Wonder how his FT shooting is.

And what about Luther? Is he more back to the basket too? Just wondering how many true low post scorers we have next year.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:33 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Jeter's offensive game was strictly back to the basket and putbacks at Duke. He was a fairly productive shotblocker, but below what you want as a rebounder.

Unless he developed an entirely new skillset, he should be a traditional 5 on offense. I think he will be a good add on D and his rebounding determines how much I ultimately like him.
That’s helpful, Spiff - thanks.

I wonder if Jeter has it in him to be a 12 point/8 board guy next year. Feel like those would be good numbers from him. Wonder how his FT shooting is.

And what about Luther? Is he more back to the basket too? Just wondering how many true low post scorers we have next year.

Luther is a face up 4.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:34 am

rgdeuce wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Could really use a Jeter update. He’s got big shoes to fill next season. I hope the year off allowed time to get stronger and learn our system.
From every thing I heard he's expected and has shown that he will be more than good enough next year. He sure as shit won't be Ayton V2.0, but he'll be much better than what he showed at Duke.
Damn, it Ayton 2.0...then I don’t want him

Jk, and anyone have a sense for why Jeter struggled so much at Duke after being so highly ranked?
Little bit of injuries and a little bit of just not feeling comfortable in the system. If you can name a single west coast kid who succeeded at Duke I'd love to hear it (Alaska doesnt count).
Singler

Kyle Singler is an alien and aliens are from Alaska. Your example is disqualified.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:39 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Luther is a face up 4.

So we’re looking at having one low post scorer next season. Maybe a non-issue, especially if we’re a better 3pt shooting team next year.

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