14 Khalil Tate (Aug 2017-Aug 2018)

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:20 pm

"Preacher Wilkins"...

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:36 pm

Tate is reaching his final form as the leader of the team. Love the shitposting.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:29 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun May 06, 2018 3:00 pm

Why is Tate being ignored this offseason?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun May 06, 2018 3:11 pm

college football news had him in their top 5 of heisman candidates for next season.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun May 06, 2018 3:31 pm

Chicat wrote:Why is Tate being ignored this offseason?

One of the guys on his list is in the NFL.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun May 06, 2018 3:53 pm

Tate is under Firmly on the Radar, "Others to watch".

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue May 08, 2018 3:20 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri May 25, 2018 8:11 am

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sun May 27, 2018 10:13 am

God damn that video got me jacked up for football season!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:42 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:21 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:30 pm

Every time this thread is bumped I anticipate something about a torn ACL or arrest at a bar or car accident or something.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:37 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Every time this thread is bumped I anticipate something about a torn ACL or arrest at a bar or car accident or something.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:12 am

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 pm

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:23 am

Merkin wrote:

who's ahead? Herbet and Browning?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:14 pm

btfd16 wrote:
Merkin wrote:
who's ahead? Herbet and Browning?

This is all of NCAA

Grier is 1st team and Tagovailoa is 2nd team

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:33 pm

Well, he’s right that Arizona needed him.

Desperately, in fact...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:38 pm

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:45 pm

cbssports.com top-10 quarterbacks.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ll-season/" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:30 am

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:17 am

Tate’s quotes highlight a lack of visionary leadership from Arizona AD Dave Heeke. If he was convinced Niumatalolo was the guy to lead Arizona moving forward, he should have gotten Tate and other Wildcat leaders in a room and explained his vision for the program with Niumatalolo as its head coach (and the fact Niumatalolo runs the triple option because it’s the best fit for Navy, not because he’s married to it.) And if the players were united against Niumatalolo, don’t you think it would have been better for Heeke and Arizona to learn that behind closed doors, instead of on Twitter?

http://footballscoop.com/news/arizona-q ... ona-tweet/" target="_blank

I agree with that completely and IMO that Bleacher Report article just makes Arizona look fricken inept. Khalil Tate has two more years max at Arizona and a tweet by him arguably sabotaged a coaching hire. Yeah that doesn't look good.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:34 am

Sure does, and quite embarrassing that the patients are running the asylum.

Soon after, Tate began speaking to Arizona athletic director Dave Heeke on a regular basis about the coaching search. Tate says Heeke would meet with candidates and then get Tate's thoughts.

"I was basically the spokesman for our team," Tate said. "I would tell (Heeke), I like this, I don't like that."

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:01 am

Now where is everyone that was saying Heeke was a friggin genious? Sumlin was his man all along and he was an absolute genious the way he worked the fans and the media. I posted back then I thought Heeke was lucky. Now it turns out he's inept. So what really happened and does it really matter?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:10 am

Christ...more circus out of Arizona AD.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:12 am

CalStateTempe wrote:Christ...more circus out of Arizona AD.

CST it isnt what it seems.

Despite what this article says and what others are saying on Twitter, Tate had nothing to do with the hire. Heeke told him he was listening to him and taking his feedback just to keep him happy and quiet on social media.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:40 am

PHXCATS wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Christ...more circus out of Arizona AD.
CST it isnt what it seems.

Despite what this article says and what others are saying on Twitter, Tate had nothing to do with the hire. Heeke told him he was listening to him and taking his feedback just to keep him happy and quiet on social media.

I don't know exactly just how much Tate or any of the players influenced what went down, but I do know and Scheer's tweet here backs it up completely, that Ken N. was offered the job and he was taking it. What happened from there only god knows, but I'll be very disappointed if it came down to a QB with two fricken years of eligibility left dictating what he wanted as the reason it all went down. If we went with Sumlin for ticket sales or recruiting or you just thought he was the superior coach then fair enough, I'll stand by that any day, but if we let the players dictate the hire? That's pure amateur hour.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:46 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Christ...more circus out of Arizona AD.
CST it isnt what it seems.

Despite what this article says and what others are saying on Twitter, Tate had nothing to do with the hire. Heeke told him he was listening to him and taking his feedback just to keep him happy and quiet on social media.
I don't know exactly just how much Tate or any of the players influenced what went down, but I do know and Scheer's tweet here backs it up completely, that Ken N. was offered the job and he was taking it. What happened from there only god knows, but I'll be very disappointed if it came down to a QB with two fricken years of eligibility left dictating what he wanted as the reason it all went down. If we went with Sumlin for ticket sales or recruiting or you just thought he was the superior coach then fair enough, I'll stand by that any day, but if we let the players dictate the hire? That's pure amateur hour.

Good for Heeke and Dr. Robbins for listening to Tate. Tate demonstrated leadership and he was smart beyond his years in how he did it (leadership is kinda important for the QB, doncha think?). He spoke for his team. Did he dictate the hire? Highly doubtful. Did he influence it? Probably. A tip of the hat to Tate, Heeke, and Dr. Robbins. Well played. Could Heeke have called a meeting with the players, and sold them on his choice (basically running it down their throats)? Of course, they're kids. Should he have? Nope! He played it straight and right. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Dr. Robbins is smarter than all of them - and us.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:57 pm

Man we yoyo on Heeke more than we ever have for any other Wildcat.

Heeke talks to Ken N, what an awful hire!
We got Sumlin what a great hire by Heeke!
Heeke hasn't said anything about Miller, he's failing us!
Heeke backs Miller, Heeke is the man!
Tate controlled Heeke's hiring, what a joke!
Oh most likely Heeke just wanted to get Tate to shut up, how brilliant!

End results are pretty damn good so far.

Also why in the hell are we buying into that article? It's basically a puff piece for Tate. Yes it has some quotes from Robbins but it's basically taking everything Tate says as absolute truth.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:13 pm

This is without a doubt a direct shot at Chief.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:37 pm

btfd16 wrote:
This is without a doubt a direct shot at Chief.

This is really getting some legs.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:07 pm

Whats the old mantra, any news is good news? Tate in the headlines and will be until the start of the season and then his performance will talk. I don't care if it is true or not (although I don't necessarily like a college kid dictating decisions) but I do get the importance of keeping a true Heisman candidate. We got Sumlin which is a great thing IMO. Shows how smart Sumlin is by passing on any comments,

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:25 pm

btfd16 wrote:
This is without a doubt a direct shot at Chief.

It is absolutely, but while we maynot always like how Chief delivers it, he has been spot on most of the time

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:27 pm

Merkin wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
This is without a doubt a direct shot at Chief.

This is really getting some legs.

Tate may have known exactly what he was doing, but Heeke gave exactly 0.000% thought into his tweets and what Tate believes he was speaking on and for when making the decisions he made in hiring Sumlin and how he went about getting Sumlin to U of A.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:30 pm

This reporting is about as sloppy as Schlabach's. It's literally just Tate saying he controlled the coach search and nothing to actually corroborate it. Not a single quote from Heeke, or even that he declined to comment.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:31 pm

Now it is completely possible that Scheer thinks he is absolutely right with his own backup on it, but that is actually wasnt at all what was really going on.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:12 am

I don't think Tate's tweet was the tell all be all in this decision obviously, but certainly the quotes used in the story by Robbins makes it look like he had a great amount of influence one way or the other. I think it's obvious that Ken N. was offered the job and Robbins decided to go over Heeke's head and make a move on Sumlin.

Also I wouldn't buy a damn thing Chief is selling here. There's no point in a god damn smokescreen when you are literally the only job opening on the market at that time. No point at all.

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:18 am

Here's the worst take I've seen on this issue from David Hookstead at someplace called the Smoke Room (I think this article and site are just click bate, so don't go unless you have to).

Arizona quarterback Khalil Tate may be a Heisman candidate, but he’s apparently also incredibly selfish.

Bleacher Report recently published an extremely long and interesting profile on Tate. A small part caught my eye, and not for a good reason. Tate admitted sending a tweet in order to stop the school from hiring Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo. Why did he do it? Because he didn’t like the triple option offense.

I’m not kidding. He straight up admitted to sabotaging his school over a personal dislike for an offense a coach might run when he made the choice to hit send a tweet that read, “I didn’t come to Arizona to run the triple-option.”

So, Tate just openly admitted he cared more about what he thought was best for the school than what might actually be best. What an incredibly selfish thing for anybody to do.

The people in charge of hiring for the Wildcats are just as stupid for listening to the opinion of a player with only two years left at the school.

Crap take and crap journalism. Read someone else's interview, spin it as badly as possible to malign a 19 year old you have never met or talked to, and then toss it on the interweb and hope for clicks and revenue.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:59 am

Bigger names picking this up.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:08 am

Tate thinking he influenced this and caused Ken N not to be hired is equal to you as a fan thinking you won a game for the team because you wore your lucky Jersey or sat on the right cushion of your couch

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:58 am

This whole thing is absolute nonsense and the worse of journalism. Correlation does not imply causation. This is also one of those telephone game type of news. They start citing “a report” that made an assumption and now it is being implied as a fact.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:03 am

What the fuck does the media love to hate on Arizona sports with unsubstantiated claims?

Fuck them all.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:37 am

Seriously, who cares. Whatever it took to not hire Ken Niumatalolo is fine by me. We landed the best available coach on the market. Mission accomplished.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:45 am

Totally.

I’m glad Tate sent that tweet. Its what we all where thinking anyways.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:53 am

I guess I'm in the minority here. I love have Sumlin but I would have been just fine with Ken N.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:09 pm

azgreg wrote:I guess I'm in the minority here. I love have Sumlin but I would have been just fine with Ken N.

Me too. Ken N. would have been fine. Speaking of Tate, however, I applaud what he did. Doubtful it swayed Heeke's choice (I understand Dr. Robbins did that), however, Tate handled how he and the team felt in a very intelligent way. Leadership!

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:13 pm

Tate said what most if us were thinking and wanted but it didnt impact anything at all. But if he thinks it did he better perform this year

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:14 pm

azgreg wrote:I guess I'm in the minority here. I love have Sumlin but I would have been just fine with Ken N.

Ditto.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:14 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Tate said what most if us were thinking and wanted but it didnt impact anything at all. But if he thinks it did he better perform this year

Prove it.

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