Why can't we consistently fill AZ Stadium?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:40 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
azgreg wrote:All those games are played in their own time zone. Most are at home.
What does that even mean? Texas does not play at 9am Central (Texas) time. Does Arizona not play in their own time zone and at home 2 of the 3 OOC?

Local times for each school of the times Merkin noted

Bama 7pm 2:30pm 6pm
Texas 11am 7pm 7pm
Michigan 7:30pm noon 3:30pm
Ohio State 12:30pm 3:30om 8pm

I misunderstood the previous comment.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:27 pm

Sumlin's been clear that they have to make a product worthy of showing up. Funny how he understands economics. Funny how you keep having stupid takes. Funny that we let you stick around.

Actually that last one isn't funny.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:30 pm

prh wrote:Sumlin's been clear that they have to make a product worthy of showing up. Funny how he understands economics. Funny how you keep having stupid takes. Funny that we let you stick around.

Actually that last one isn't funny.

Oh I am so grateful to you

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:30 pm

You should be Machina, you've been dancing that ban hammer line for years.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:47 pm

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:36 pm

oK that's enough, let's move the topic to useful discussion and away from ad hominem

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:52 pm

Looking at the website, looks like every section has hundreds of empty seats except the end zone seats. Really hoping for a strong walk up crowd but I would not expect it at this time. Come on Arizona we can do better than this.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:55 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Looking at the website, looks like every every section has hundreds of empty seats except the end zone seats. Really hoping for a strong walk up crowd but I would not expect it at this time. Come on Arizona we can do better than this.

Why don't you do your part and buy all the empty seats and give them to under priviledged local families then?

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:08 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Looking at the website, looks like every every section has hundreds of empty seats except the end zone seats. Really hoping for a strong walk up crowd but I would not expect it at this time. Come on Arizona we can do better than this.
Why don't you do your part and buy all the empty seats and give them to under priviledged local families then?

He did request the BYU tix that he won in the giveaway be donated. That was pretty generous of him.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:36 am

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-fo ... 1535634001" target="_blank

Article about declining attendance across the board in college football and how most schools severely inflate attendance. It isn't just a "bad Tucson fan" problem. It's a nationwide every college football program problem.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:43 am

"It is okay we suck really bad because everyone else is declining slightly." Terd fans aka asuhater

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:06 am

PHXCATS wrote:"It is okay we suck really bad because everyone else is declining slightly." Terd fans aka asuhater

Our attendance issues are no worse than anyone else's, and probably better than most.

Post by **UAdevil** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:16 am

PHXCATS wrote:"It is okay we suck really bad because everyone else is declining slightly." Terd fans aka asuhater

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:31 am

Stanford dropped their football stadium from 89,000 to 50,400. Even with a winning program, it still can't sell out.

Only 23 out of the 130 Div I athletic departments don't need subsidies from the school or state with football obviously being the most expensive program due to all the personal required.

Also the most lucrative,if you can get the money. UK makes more from football than basketball.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:09 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:oK that's enough, let's move the topic to useful discussion and away from ad hominem

Ahem....

PHXCATS wrote:"It is okay we suck really bad because everyone else is declining slightly." Terd fans aka asuhater

Sigh....

So you didn't read the article and don't care about facts.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:30 am

I do care about facts. The facts are that fans are willing to spend money on watching a practice for basketball but cant make it out to a game. Arizona has the potential to be a really good fan base for all sports. But Arizona chooses not to be for the most part.

From the article, it says actual ticket scans was 172,446 for the year. So that is 28,741 per game. That is really bad. Without accounting for the people traveling from Phoenix or Yuma or wherever and traveling fans, that is less than 3% of the population of Metro Tucson.

So there are three school in the PAC-12 that have no pro sports in town or close to the area (not counting Oregon since they sell out every game). Arizona, Oregon State and Washington State

I took the population of the metro area of Tucson and it was less than 3% that go to a game on average. For Oregon State I took Salem and Corvallis metro population and it was 4.8% using the same metric and Washington State was 4.1% with the same using metro population of Spokane and Pullman

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:43 am

Well, why don’t you cry about it?

Post by **UAdevil** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:13 am

PHXCATS wrote:I do care about facts. The facts are that fans are willing to spend money on watching a practice for basketball but cant make it out to a game. Arizona has the potential to be a really good fan base for all sports. But Arizona chooses not to be for the most part.

From the article, it says actual ticket scans was 172,446 for the year. So that is 28,741 per game. That is really bad. Without accounting for the people traveling from Phoenix or Yuma or wherever and traveling fans, that is less than 3% of the population of Metro Tucson.

So there are three school in the PAC-12 that have no pro sports in town or close to the area (not counting Oregon since they sell out every game). Arizona, Oregon State and Washington State

I took the population of the metro area of Tucson and it was less than 3% that go to a game on average. For Oregon State I took Salem and Corvallis metro population and it was 4.8% using the same metric and Washington State was 4.1% with the same using metro population of Spokane and Pullman

Fans aren't allowed like certain sports over others? If someone really likes bball and goes to all the games they are 'bad fans' if they don't also support football? People have different interests. Doesn't make them any better or worse. You're being ridiculous.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:18 am

PHXCATS wrote:I do care about facts. The facts are that fans are willing to spend money on watching a practice for basketball but cant make it out to a game. Arizona has the potential to be a really good fan base for all sports. But Arizona chooses not to be for the most part.

From the article, it says actual ticket scans was 172,446 for the year. So that is 28,741 per game. That is really bad. Without accounting for the people traveling from Phoenix or Yuma or wherever and traveling fans, that is less than 3% of the population of Metro Tucson.

So there are three school in the PAC-12 that have no pro sports in town or close to the area (not counting Oregon since they sell out every game). Arizona, Oregon State and Washington State

I took the population of the metro area of Tucson and it was less than 3% that go to a game on average. For Oregon State I took Salem and Corvallis metro population and it was 4.8% using the same metric and Washington State was 4.1% with the same using metro population of Spokane and Pullman

Please stop saying this is a fact. This is an assumption you are making, it is not a fact.

The facts are that fans are willing to spend money on watching a practice for basketball but cant make it out to a game.

You have no idea that those fans attending the Red and Blue game are not also going to Arizona football games. Show me an article or something that states that with facts included (ie Athletic department looked up names and say these people attended the Red and Blue game but there name does not show up buying a football ticket) before throwing out this terrible assumption again. So damn frustrating

Facts are not assumptions. This is really important in life to know

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:32 am

I guess today I learned that $7 tickets to Red-Blue are equivalent to $35 tickets to a football game.

Not to mention the fact that there's only 15k of $7 tickets and far more $35 tickets.

Or that a 4 hour football game at 7:45pm is equally as convenient as a noon 2-hour game.

Lastly, as someone originally from Oregon, both OSU and OU draw from population all the way up to Portland and all the way down to Medford-- yes, for game days. I-5 is an absolute mess on days they're both at home.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:17 pm

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:42 pm

Not good enough - machina

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:51 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:Not good enough - machina

You are right but there is progress so that is good

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:54 pm

machina really enjoys this back and forth and elevating himself to a mythical caricature of the worst of all sports fans.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:54 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:Not good enough - machina
You are right but there is progress so that is good

A 15% increase year over year isn’t good enough?

I’m not sure what your line of work is, but I’m guessing it’s not sales.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:39 pm

Chicat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:Not good enough - machina
You are right but there is progress so that is good
A 15% increase year over year isn’t good enough?

I’m not sure what your line of work is, but I’m guessing it’s not sales.

He could just be a really poor salesman

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:32 pm

Chicat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:Not good enough - machina
You are right but there is progress so that is good
A 15% increase year over year isn’t good enough?

I’m not sure what your line of work is, but I’m guessing it’s not sales.

No shit. We posted a 14.77% yoy growth in one of our most important metrics and everyone was falling 9ver themselves ecstatic.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:50 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:Not good enough - machina
You are right but there is progress so that is good
A 15% increase year over year isn’t good enough?

I’m not sure what your line of work is, but I’m guessing it’s not sales.
No shit. We posted a 14.77% yoy growth in one of our most important metrics and everyone was falling 9ver themselves ecstatic.

I didn’t even mention that we were down 10% the prior year.

So to be up 5% over 2 years after being down double digits? That’s fairly incredible.

Add to that the increased revenue from the improvements to the gameday experience (beer!) and you’ve got a turnaround any CEO would leverage into an expanded golden parachute.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:17 pm

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:25 pm

Better schedule, beer or Sumlin?

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:27 pm

azcat49 wrote:Better schedule, beer or Sumlin?

I'd imagine it's a bit of all three. Oh and Tate.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:23 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Better schedule, beer or Sumlin?
I'd imagine it's a bit of all three. Oh and Tate.

Sumlin for sure. When Tate was the most exciting player last season in the month of October and the Cats went undefeated, they still couldn't sell out.

Only 42,822 showed up for a game at 6:30 against #15 WSU even after Tate won all those Player of the Week awards and UA was 5-2.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:41 am

I'm sure this is like the many people who bought basketball season tickets in Lute's first and second year. If you want to lock in those good seats, get them now. Because if we kick ass this year, and Sumlin's recruiting takes off, anyone who waited will be on the outside looking in (possibly literally).

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:44 pm

BYU fans making more noise than UA fans. Tucson should be very ashamed

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:51 pm

PHXCATS wrote:BYU fans making more noise than UA fans. Tucson should be very ashamed

Fuck off already.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:32 pm

PHXCATS wrote:BYU fans making more noise than UA fans. Tucson should be very ashamed

your mom makes a lot of noise

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:33 pm

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:06 pm

Ah yep, this is why I don't buy tickets but once every year or two. Because I'm constantly disappointed and AZ football consistently sucks ass. I will not spend my money on this garbage.

Post by **UAdevil** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:11 pm

I'm regretting buying season tickets. I'd rather be disappointed in the comfort of home than disappointed at the stadium.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:14 pm

Performances like tonight by the team are why we have attendance struggles.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:17 pm

We broke 50k tonight and it may not happen again in the next decade.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:19 pm

yup. attendance won't recover this season. for good reason. no one should have to be forced by machina to spend their hard earned money on this garbage.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:26 pm

I was about to buy tickets to the Oregon or Cal or Colorado game this week but I held off pending the outcome of this game. Sure glad I didn't. I will not buy any tickets now this season. I'll reevaluate next August.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:28 pm

I think we can lock this thread now. The question has been definitively answered.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:30 pm

After we lose to Houston, I doubt more than 30k show up for Southern Utah.

Post by **UAdevil** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:42 am

Well, just made plans for afternoon/evening of the 29th. Anyone need a pair of tix for the SC game? Sec 31.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:08 am

PHXCATS wrote:BYU fans making more noise than UA fans. Tucson should be very ashamed

I’m sure that had nothing to do with the results on the field and everything to do with our fans not living up to the example you set for them.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:11 pm

8pm local kickoff for Florida State when most fans have work or school the next day. Full stadium making tons of noise

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:32 pm

I wonder what are some of the other differences between Florida St football and Arizona football.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:50 pm

azgreg wrote:I wonder what are some of the other differences between Florida St football and Arizona football.

It’s almost like winning a title recently causes people to show up. What a fucking shocker.

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