let's talk '19

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:38 pm

Ran into Jeter, Desjardins and Zeke Nnaji at the tailgate. They were showing Zeke around for his unofficial visit. Kid is huge! I was with a group of bball fans so we all did our part to fill him in on what to expect. He was having a blast

Tried to get some Coach K dirt out of Jeter but no luck

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:34 am

Good look!

Also, pretty sure Jake is the coolest Wildcat walk-on since David Bagga cause that dude is in every "Cats hanging out" photo.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:44 pm

Ya Jake and I talked for a little as well. Talked about his shoulder surgery and he expects to be ready for Red Blue. Good dude!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:12 pm

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:16 pm

1st domino

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:18 pm

What's his connection with Marquette?

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:30 pm

azgreg wrote:What's his connection with Marquette?

Steve Wojciechowski is coach

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:37 pm

No one from Arizona moves to Milwaukee on purpose.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:40 pm

Chicat wrote:No one from Arizona moves to Milwaukee on purpose.

Yeah they all do the reverse

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:51 pm

Don’t wanna sound overconfident, but there’s no way he’s going to Marquette.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:54 pm

azgreg wrote:What's his connection with Marquette?

Stan Johnson, used to be an assistant at ASU. Marquette is still involved here as a courtesy to him.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:11 pm

Chicat wrote:

That's good news. I mean, nothing is a given, but we have a lot of positives vs Marquette. I was more worried about Duke and Nova.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:12 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:

That's good news. I mean, nothing is a given, but we have a lot of positives vs Marquette. I was more worried about Duke and Nova.

They never had a chance.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:21 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:What's his connection with Marquette?
Stan Johnson, used to be an assistant at ASU. Marquette is still involved here as a courtesy to him.

A courtesy? I hate recruiting.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:22 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:

That's good news. I mean, nothing is a given, but we have a lot of positives vs Marquette. I was more worried about Duke and Nova.
They never had a chance.

Fair enough, but I still feel better vs Marquette than vs the defending national champs and Coach K.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:43 pm

I looked for an active Marquette free board to see if anyone there was as confident as we are, but I failed.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:51 pm

There's this one. https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?PHPSE ... 8207.14725" target="_blank

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:51 pm

This one has some posts in the last day
https://247sports.com/college/marquette ... ps-104085/" target="_blank

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:21 pm

I haven't been this excited about a possible commitment since Aaron Gordon.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:11 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:I haven't been this excited about a possible commitment since Aaron Gordon.

Seriously. If B-Dub sticks around, our '19 backcourt is looking very, very good.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:00 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:This one has some posts in the last day
https://247sports.com/college/marquette ... ps-104085/" target="_blank

There are some...interesting takes on that board. My favorite is the one about how Trae Young spurned the blue bloods to stay in state, and Nico might choose to spurn the blue blood in Marquette to come to Arizona.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Miller had an in-home with Nico today. Will have one with Terry Armstrong tomorrow.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:24 am

We need more chatter over here, I went over to the football board, man is that place depressing.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:47 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Miller had an in-home with Nico today. Will have one with Terry Armstrong tomorrow.

Choo do you think Nico's timeline has moved up, to where he actually might be our first commit in the class of 2018?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:19 am

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Miller had an in-home with Nico today. Will have one with Terry Armstrong tomorrow.
Choo do you think Nico's timeline has moved up, to where he actually might be our first commit in the class of 2018?

Yes.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:25 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Miller had an in-home with Nico today. Will have one with Terry Armstrong tomorrow.
Choo do you think Nico's timeline has moved up, to where he actually might be our first commit in the class of 2018?
Yes.

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:36 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Miller had an in-home with Nico today. Will have one with Terry Armstrong tomorrow.
Choo do you think Nico's timeline has moved up, to where he actually might be our first commit in the class of 2018?
Yes.

Love it when Choo puts up his straight-forward, right-there "Yes." Yes!

Thanks Choo.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:45 am

Thanks for the updates Choo.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:51 am

This will be the highest rated PG signed since Mustafa Shakur....

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:38 pm

One of the things I like about Nico is that I don't think he's a OAD type. Not that he doesn't have NBA potential; he does. But he's not the kind of athletic freak who would be drafted high simply because he can windmill dunk from the FT line. Nico looks like a solid 2-3 year player, imo.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:08 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:One of the things I like about Nico is that I don't think he's a OAD type. Not that he doesn't have NBA potential; he does. But he's not the kind of athletic freak who would be drafted high simply because he can windmill dunk from the FT line. Nico looks like a solid 2-3 year player, imo.

Choo - you're the man.

Beachcat - I would be very happy if we got 2 years out of Nico. Not sure he screams OAD but I have a gut feeling he may want to go OAD. Not sure if that is the reality though.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:14 pm

pc in NM wrote:This will be the highest rated PG signed since Mustafa Shakur....

My least favorite UA player since I started watching. Very much disliked his game.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:25 pm

goslingswagg wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:One of the things I like about Nico is that I don't think he's a OAD type. Not that he doesn't have NBA potential; he does. But he's not the kind of athletic freak who would be drafted high simply because he can windmill dunk from the FT line. Nico looks like a solid 2-3 year player, imo.
Choo - you're the man.

Beachcat - I would be very happy if we got 2 years out of Nico. Not sure he screams OAD but I have a gut feeling he may want to go OAD. Not sure if that is the reality though.

2 years is probably the plan. Just depends on his draft stock after the first year. Pretty much same plan as BWill.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:30 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:
pc in NM wrote:This will be the highest rated PG signed since Mustafa Shakur....
My least favorite UA player since I started watching. Very much disliked his game.

Kyryl Natyazhko averaged 2 points and 2 rebounds in 10min/g for two straight seasons. He had more fouls than points over his final two seasons. I just want to make sure we don't forget KReal even though I'd love to forget KReal.

I'm not even going to talk about three quarters of the 2011 class.

Although... Shakur's senior year of '06-07 was probably my least favorite year of Arizona basketball. By the time we lost in the first round to Purdue I was like "why the hell not."

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:55 am

Anytime I see a player inadvertently step out of bounds I think of Mustafa...

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:34 am

Rivals updated their rankings and Christian Koloko was not included as a top 150 prospect...I guess he's more of a developmental player anyway but still a bit concerning if they don't see a ton of potential there (which is assumed if he's not in the top 150). Scout is definitely higher on him than Rivals though.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:03 am

Rivals did a little four person roundtable to make some guesses where some of the top recruits of the 2019 class will land.

Arizona was picked by all four for Nico Mannion (no surprise).

Others of note...

Josh Green (wing) - 2/4

Drew Timme (post) - 1/4

CJ Walker (wing) - 0/4

James Wiseman (post) - 0/4

Jeremiah Earl Robinson (post) - 0/4

I'm not big on Rivals as a source (I also much prefer Scout) but also it's content.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:20 am

YoDeFoe wrote:Rivals did a little four person roundtable to make some guesses where some of the top recruits of the 2019 class will land.

Arizona was picked by all four for Nico Mannion (no surprise).

Others of note...

Josh Green - 2/4

Drew Timme (post) - 1/4

CJ Walker (wing) - 0/4

James Wiseman (post) - 0/4

Jeremiah Earl Robinson (post) - 0/4

I'm not big on Rivals as a source (I also much prefer Scout) but also it's content.

You missed Jaden McDaniels - 2/4

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:26 am

I knew I missed one... and that was the one I was most excited about. Thanks Choo - any thoughts on McDaniels? My initial thoughts are that if you want to be prepared for a career in the NBA, you don't go to a school that plays 100% zone defense.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:29 am

YoDeFoe wrote:I knew I missed one... and that was the one I was most excited about. Thanks Choo - any thoughts on McDaniels? My initial thoughts are that if you want to be prepared for a career in the NBA, you don't go to a school that plays 100% zone defense.

Especially, when you are Jaden McDaniels, and can do what he does.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:31 am

Most mysterious recruitment there is. I don't have a good read on it whatsoever, although I've heard Texas is definitely up there for him. Another words I have no idea where we ultimately stand in this one, especially since this will be a Spring decision and that leaves it completely up in the air for the blue bloods to jump in.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:23 am

EastCoastCat wrote:Anytime I see a player inadvertently step out of bounds I think of Mustafa...

Every time a guard overpenetrates and gets stuck 10-12 feet from the basket and has to pivot searching for a passing lane, I think of Mustafa.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:00 pm

McDaniels has three picks in the Scout crystal ball for SDSU, can't see those proving out though despite his brother Jalen (a talent in his own right) playing there currently. This quote seems relevant from his interview in that D1circuit article I linked:

“Yeah, everything I heard, they weren’t lying.” McDaniels admitted. “It’s the best place to play. The toughest part was getting a feel of playing good players every day.”

Playing good players every day. He can get that at Arizona, much less so at Washington, and for sure can in the SEC or Big XII (though practicing at Texas is likely not a similar competition as a Kansas, he does get to lean into the KD comparison for whatever that is worth).

This quote from his father Will McDaniels is telling as well:

"Some of these coaches forget that I've gone through this with my older son," Will McDaniels said of Jalen McDaniels, who plays for San Diego State. "That's why I'm the way I am. You have one of these big old colleges calling you and they're saying this, 'Hey we love your game and we want you to come to our school and once you get here you're going to start immediately.' Man, that's not true. I have had coaches tell me that. This has always been my answer: 'Thanks, Coach, we appreciate it, but we don't want you to give Jaden anything."

While this recruitment is heavily controlled by the pater familias, this father isn't some kook. That's a pretty down to earth, no nonsense, "hard work wins out" attitude he shows there. Dude is a mechanic at Boeing where he's working on airline parts at 5:30am, and he's been around the block already with his older son's recruitment.

Jaden, for his part, mentioned that proximity to his mother (divorced from his father, but the two live nearby each other for Jaden's sake) is a low-key factor in play.

McDaniels called Kentucky his "dream school growing up" ...but it remains to be seen how much his dreams will influence the decision. Coach Cal seems like the kind of coach who would promise a starting role and a big feature, the kind of talk that the father Will McDaniels is highly skeptical of.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:06 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:McDaniels has three picks in the Scout crystal ball for SDSU, can't see those proving out though despite his brother Jalen (a talent in his own right) playing there currently. This quote seems relevant from his interview in that D1circuit article I linked:

“Yeah, everything I heard, they weren’t lying.” McDaniels admitted. “It’s the best place to play. The toughest part was getting a feel of playing good players every day.”

Playing good players every day. He can get that at Arizona, much less so at Washington, and for sure can in the SEC or Big XII (though practicing at Texas is likely not a similar competition as a Kansas, he does get to lean into the KD comparison for whatever that is worth).

This quote from his father Will McDaniels is telling as well:

"Some of these coaches forget that I've gone through this with my older son," Will McDaniels said of Jalen McDaniels, who plays for San Diego State. "That's why I'm the way I am. You have one of these big old colleges calling you and they're saying this, 'Hey we love your game and we want you to come to our school and once you get here you're going to start immediately.' Man, that's not true. I have had coaches tell me that. This has always been my answer: 'Thanks, Coach, we appreciate it, but we don't want you to give Jaden anything."

While this recruitment is heavily controlled by the pater familias, this father isn't some kook. That's a pretty down to earth, no nonsense, "hard work wins out" attitude he shows there. Dude is a mechanic at Boeing where he's working on airline parts at 5:30am, and he's been around the block already with his older son's recruitment.

Jaden, for his part, mentioned that proximity to his mother (divorced from his father, but the two live nearby each other for Jaden's sake) is a low-key factor in play.

McDaniels called Kentucky his "dream school growing up" ...but it remains to be seen how much his dreams will influence the decision. Coach Cal seems like the kind of coach who would promise a starting role and a big feature, the kind of talk that the father Will McDaniels is highly skeptical of.

I still find it very odd that Kentucky up to this point hasn't offered McDaniels.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:27 pm

Josh Green will be taking his official visit for the Red/Blue game (Nico will be there with him). He'll officially visit UNC some time this month.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:24 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Josh Green will be taking his official visit for the Red/Blue game (Nico will be there with him). He'll officially visit UNC some time this month.

Love it.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:27 pm

Unbelievable how quickly Sean has regrouped with recruiting. Let's hope it's smooth sailing for the foreseeable future!

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:00 pm

pc in NM wrote:This will be the highest rated PG signed since Mustafa Shakur....

2003

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:13 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:Anytime I see a player inadvertently step out of bounds I think of Mustafa...
Every time a guard overpenetrates and gets stuck 10-12 feet from the basket and has to pivot searching for a passing lane, I think of Mustafa.

Every time I see an Arizona player average 7 assists a game, I think of Staf.

Yeah, haven’t really been thinking about him.....

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:51 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:
pc in NM wrote:This will be the highest rated PG signed since Mustafa Shakur....
My least favorite UA player since I started watching. Very much disliked his game.
Kyryl Natyazhko averaged 2 points and 2 rebounds in 10min/g for two straight seasons. He had more fouls than points over his final two seasons. I just want to make sure we don't forget KReal even though I'd love to forget KReal.

I'm not even going to talk about three quarters of the 2011 class.

Although... Shakur's senior year of '06-07 was probably my least favorite year of Arizona basketball. By the time we lost in the first round to Purdue I was like "why the hell not."

That was the game where the guy made the shot on his knees from the free throw line right...I remember watching that and basically saying why the hell not

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