2018-2019 Arizona Basketball

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:02 pm

I got to catch a good portion of the Zags game again TAMU last night and they look very solid. I think their bigs would give Arizona trouble and the backcourt of Norvell and Perkins is as good as any around. Well see what happens Monday before I make any conclusions.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:08 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:I don't think Duke is worth being scared over. They're obviously very good, but you can play with them if you don't feed what they do well. Let the game get loose and have Zion catching lobs on you and you'll get killed. Keep a controlled tempo with few mistakes and hit your shots and they're not unbeatable.
I'm clearly flat out frightened by this Duke team, but I agree with your follow-up on why they're not so scary (in theory). My biggest concern is that their strengths in their size, toughness, and rebounding are our weaknesses.

Yeah, I'm not cocky and I think we'll lose. That said, we're averaging under 9 to's a game and our turnovers have gone down every game. If we play thay clean and hit shots, I think we'd give them a game.

The glass is probably where we'd lose that, but I feel like we have the ability to play clean and not get rattled, which I think is big in blowout vs close one.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:27 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:In our haste to get to Gonzaga, though, we sure as hell better be ready for ISU. They're probably a tournament team this year. If Wigginton is healthy, he's a guy who can hurt us on offense.

Wiggington has a broken bone in his foot, he's out until December at least.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:55 pm

97cats wrote:Arizona is going to be much better than people think

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:03 pm

97cats wrote:Arizona gonna be better this season than most fans expect

gonna suprise

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:09 pm

If we beat Duke next week, I would still expect the morning after, front page article to be a Schlabach article about college hoops corruption with a pic of Miller front and center.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:04 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:If we beat Duke next week, I would still expect the morning after, front page article to be a Schlabach article about college hoops corruption with a pic of Miller front and center.

You have zero idea what is going on with Schlabach

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:09 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:If we beat Duke next week, I would still expect the morning after, front page article to be a Schlabach article about college hoops corruption with a pic of Miller front and center.
You have zero idea what is going on with Schlabach

I only know what his favorite topic has been in 2018.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:14 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:If we beat Duke next week, I would still expect the morning after, front page article to be a Schlabach article about college hoops corruption with a pic of Miller front and center.
You have zero idea what is going on with Schlabach
I only know what his favorite topic has been in 2018.

He isn't sitting on stories waiting for UA to do something. He has to report what he has asap and now it is all dumb shit like ABOR that is misleading

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:14 pm

U of A opens as 2.5 point underdogs vs Iowa State. Give me that moneyline baby

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:47 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:If we beat Duke next week, I would still expect the morning after, front page article to be a Schlabach article about college hoops corruption with a pic of Miller front and center.
You have zero idea what is going on with Schlabach
I only know what his favorite topic has been in 2018.
He isn't sitting on stories waiting for UA to do something. He has to report what he has asap and now it is all dumb shit like ABOR that is misleading

Dicks gotta stick together...

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:50 pm

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:Arizona is going to be much better than people think

Just gonna leave this here.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:39 pm

This team may not be as talented as years but it is sure fun to watch a team without egos.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:01 pm

Wins like Iowa State make the difference on a tourney resume.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:03 pm

That was a good win.

What was a great learning experience.

First real test and they gutted it through and we all learned something!

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:06 pm

Wore them down. That was quite a turnaround.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:08 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:That was a good win.

What was a great learning experience.

First real test and they gutted it through and we all learned something!

It seems like this team has more spirit and character than last year. No folding up the tents.

Midway though the second, we were down ten, shooting poorly from 3 and getting killed on the glass. We just kept fighting.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:09 pm

Passion, grit, and never give in

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:11 pm

My thought is that we would need almost 40 points a night from the Brandon's if we want to win against decent competition. We only got 25 from them tonight but still pulled it out thanks to Coleman. Coleman was fantastic but I don't think we should be expecting that kind of game from him too often. We really need the Brandon's to play better

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:12 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Wins like Iowa State make the difference on a tourney resume.

Agree. They weren't full strength but I think ISU is a tourney team as the season develops.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:14 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:That was a good win.

What was a great learning experience.

First real test and they gutted it through and we all learned something!
It seems like this team has more spirit and character than last year. No folding up the tents.

Midway though the second, we were down ten, shooting poorly from 3 and getting killed on the glass. We just kept fighting.

Yup. Resilient. Give Coleman the floor General keys, he has stones. Maybe it’s transferable to the others.

No sulking and pouting. We all have our own personal cats of years past that would do that and just kill the team.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:15 pm

We learned we have numerous good weapons. Work to set them up and we'll be a good team. When the outliers improve we'll be really fun to watch.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:15 pm

Our OOC schedule just got a lot better with that win. Should play two top ten teams in the next two days.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:29 pm

USC just lost to Texas Tech so if not for Arizona once,again the conference would have no Marque wins. I think Oregon got a top 50 win in a consolation game. Maybe the scum can get one tonight in Vegas in front of about 50 fans

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:31 pm

azcat49 wrote:USC just lost to Texas Tech so if not for Arizona once,again the conference would have no Marque wins. I think Oregon got a top 50 win in a consolation game. Maybe the scum can get one tonight in Vegas in front of about 50 fans

Oregon beat #15 Syracuse on Friday

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:32 pm

An ugly win against a shorthanded team. AZ is a relatively young team with work to do. Still, it was nice to see them pull out this win.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:34 pm

midnightx wrote:An ugly win against a shorthanded team. AZ is a relatively young team with work to do. Still, it was nice to see them pull out this win.

Survive and advance. That's all that matters.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:36 pm

azcat49 wrote:USC just lost to Texas Tech so if not for Arizona once,again the conference would have no Marque wins. I think Oregon got a top 50 win in a consolation game. Maybe the scum can get one tonight in Vegas in front of about 50 fans

didn't oregon beat 'cuse?

I was watching that game and they were up big but didn't finish watching

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:37 pm

84Cat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:USC just lost to Texas Tech so if not for Arizona once,again the conference would have no Marque wins. I think Oregon got a top 50 win in a consolation game. Maybe the scum can get one tonight in Vegas in front of about 50 fans
Oregon beat #15 Syracuse on Friday

Yep, that was the consolation game win. Not that it matters I guess

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:04 pm

Makes me question how good Syracuse is.

JCatano · Post by **JCatano** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:23 pm

midnightx wrote:An ugly win against a shorthanded team. AZ is a relatively young team with work to do. Still, it was nice to see them pull out this win.

While it obviously hurts their depth, the missing players were part of a losing record last season.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:27 pm

Zags not looking too hot rn.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:29 pm

How can you look good against the style of play Illinois runs

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:42 pm

azcat49 wrote:How can you look good against the style of play Illinois runs

They sure want to muck it up

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:56 pm

and now asu beats #15 miss st. the pac is back

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:01 am

Gonzaga doesn't scare me. If we can keep it close I like our chances.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:22 am

CalStateTempe wrote:That was a good win.

What was a great learning experience.

First real test and they gutted it through and we all learned something!

Coleman emerged as a piece I wasn't so sure about. Good all around win, definitely something to work with.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:57 am

JCatano wrote: While it obviously hurts their depth, the missing players were part of a losing record last season.

They were missing a likely Big 12 1st teamer, so that argument is pretty weak.

Wigginton is loads better than anyone playing on either team last night.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:00 am

AZCatGirl wrote:Gonzaga doesn't scare me. If we can keep it close I like our chances.

They are bigger, more talented, and work well together

We are still finding our roles.

But damn I loved watching the Illini take them to the wire.

I’m expecting to lose tonight but would not be surprised if we can channel whatever D we had In The second half and pull the upset.

No matter what happens the next two games, I really feel good about Miller having us ready by March.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:11 am

CalStateTempe wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:Gonzaga doesn't scare me. If we can keep it close I like our chances.
They are bigger, more talented, and work well together

We are still finding our roles.

But damn I loved watching the Illini take them to the wire.

I’m expecting to lose tonight but would not be surprised if we can channel whatever D we had In The second half and pull the upset.

No matter what happens the next two games, I really feel good about Miller having us ready by March.

Me too, and part of it was seeing Coleman take over. His first big game at Arizona was already better than any game PJC had in 4 years. If he can actually provide clutch moments consistently, it will be exciting to see where this team can go.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:14 am

So to sum up this team currently the 5 starters are all capable of contributing positively, Ira Lee always does something positive off the bench although he does make a dumb foul or two per game, Dylan Smith can defend on the wing and if the moon is full then his jumper falls, Akot well....I don't think he even knows what he does well on the court, and Barcello is merely present. In a game like this where Williams and Randolph just couldn't get it going consistently a scoring option off the bench would just make more sense. Hoping Doutrive can find the court soon, I think he's literally the main missing piece to the rotation.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:39 am

Seriously...every year there is a player who is inexplicably in Miller’s dog house?

I get his defense probably isn’t there, but everything is risk benefit in life and his defense liability can’t be any worse the paper thin Barcellos. That dude gets pushed around.

At least doutrive is a disrupted and can score.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:40 am

Coleman = Floor General.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:51 am

AZCatGirl wrote:Gonzaga doesn't scare me. If we can keep it close I like our chances.

I think we'll lose, but that's ok. It will be a good learning experience and that is huge for our development. We'll get a SOS bump, which is also big.

We need to shoot it better and be competitive on the glass. If we do that, we'll make it interesting. The base defense and offense isn't bad. We just need shots to fall and can't get destroyed on the glass.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:56 am

Arizona vs Auburn will be fun.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:01 am

We are going to play 2 top ten teams in 2 nights.

Even if we go 0-2, this week will do much more for us than beating up on teams like Cal Poly

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:02 am

Honestly there may have not been a more important game for us to win all season than that game last night. We get what will amount to a very good win at the end of the season and it insures no bad losses or empty wins in Maui. Play with our asses on fire against either Zaga or Auburn and we get a huge win on our resume as well.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:10 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Honestly there may have not been a more important game for us to win all season than that game last night. We get what will amount to a very good win at the end of the season and it insures no bad losses or empty wins in Maui. Play with our asses on fire against either Zaga or Auburn and we get a huge win on our resume as well.

Yup.

Not at the kids table.

Luther beginning to come into form. Jeter too in the second half.

Coleman stepping up. More of that please!!!

BWill shakes off whatever last night was and Lee makes the most of his time...

If we can shoot to our numbers (albeit numbers from creampuff wins) and crash the glass...we’ll have some fun games.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:30 am

ChooChooCat wrote:So to sum up this team currently the 5 starters are all capable of contributing positively, Ira Lee always does something positive off the bench although he does make a dumb foul or two per game, Dylan Smith can defend on the wing and if the moon is full then his jumper falls, Akot well....I don't think he even knows what he does well on the court, and Barcello is merely present. In a game like this where Williams and Randolph just couldn't get it going consistently a scoring option off the bench would just make more sense. Hoping Doutrive can find the court soon, I think he's literally the main missing piece to the rotation.

Could not agree more. Another creator and offensive weapon off the bench is the exact contributor we need. As I said a week or so ago, you could convince me to have an 8 man rotation without Akot or Barcello...if anything, I feel more strongly about that being the case after last night.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:32 am

Ahead of this tourney the Zags have been getting up more shots than we have. If we can slow them down a bit and make up their slim margin on the boards we have a real chance. Zags have very well composed second halves; hope we don't dig a big hole in the first.

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