Pac-12 game thread

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:11 pm

At least there is a quality win in the Pac 12 now.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:19 pm

Colorado loses to Hawaii in OT.

We are such a mid major conference.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:37 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:Colorado loses to Hawaii in OT.

We are such a mid major conference.

That's not even hyperbole. Most mid-majors get 1 team in, 2 if they're lucky.

Keep in mind, though, that AZ, USC, and Oregon have highly ranked incoming classes next season. I don't think 2018-19 is the new normal, in other words.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:00 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:Dort will eat our guys for lunch. But I don’t draw firm conclusions from any given game. Teams have ebbs and flows.

Exactly didn't Kansas need OT to beat a pretty bad Stanford team at home

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:29 am

Thought Colorado was going to be a decent win this year, guess they are going to be a "bad loss". Gonna have to pull it together for the road trip. And we really need to win our first two games against the mountain schools at home. That would be a big hole to climb out of if we drop those two. Can't afford any more lapses in effort.

Also Washington state loses to San Diego.
Oye!

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:53 pm

Alford gettin the pink slip?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:56 pm

Main Event wrote:Alford gettin the pink slip?

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:07 pm

The Pac-12: a Limbo League.

How low can you go?

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:09 pm

I love Princeton. Lol.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:22 pm

The PAC 12 is the new Missouri Valley Conference

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:03 pm

Truly putrid performance. Oregon State is flying the flag for the conference. Against Central Connecticut. Everybody else is losing or lost.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:05 pm

Not the Ducks; not yet.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:22 pm

The winner of the Pac-12 tournament will be the only conference team playing in the Big Dance.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:26 pm

Irish27 wrote:The winner of the Pac-12 tournament will be the only conference team playing in the Big Dance.

No chance. I will bet just about anything that doesnt happen

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:13 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:17 pm

Cal is about to loss to Seattle.

Oregon and Oregon St win.

Stanford up next.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:46 pm

This is the worst the Pac has been since I started following AZ in the late 90s.

And yes, only the Pac tourney winner is getting into the NCAA tourney. ASU would have to go like 16-2 in league to get an at large bid, which you know isn’t happening. I think the Pac reg season champ will go something like 12-6. That won’t be good enough for any Pac team to reach the tourney, not with the OOC performance we’ve had.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:42 pm

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:51 pm

I believe that now makes 22 different Pac 12 head coaches since
Miller took over.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:13 pm

Frybry02 wrote:I believe that now makes 22 different Pac 12 head coaches since
Miller took over.

Just at UCLA? Or the whole league?

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:32 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:I believe that now makes 22 different Pac 12 head coaches since
Miller took over.
Just at UCLA? Or the whole league?

I'm glad I wasn't drinking milk in front of my keyboard.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:58 pm

Beavs choking away a 17 point lead.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:26 pm

Oregon State held on to win. Unless they lose a bunch more games, Washington and ASU may be the only halfway respectable teams we play. Any more losses we have will be counted as potentially bad losses by the committee.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:35 am

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/281 ... basketball" target="_blank

Pulling no punches on just how bad this conference is...

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:11 am

Thanks Larry

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 am

scumdevils86 wrote:Thanks Larry

And thanks ESPN. We could have very easily been carrying the torch for the league this year.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:20 am

Yeah, the conference sucks. Kind of funny that the comparisons to other abysmal seasons by a major conference were recorded by the PAC12/10 also. Seems like the PAC is consistently one of the worst major conferences. Anyway, can't blame everything on Larry Scott. Our revenue is significantly higher than mid major conferences and yet we perform like one. Next year should be a lot better for us, but the conference will probably be the same.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:38 am

You are right - it's only 99% his fault.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:44 am

I bet if it weren't for obnoxious Bill Walton everyone probably wouldn't be making fun of the PAC-12 like they are this year. The Title states that this could be the worse conference season in the shot clock era, yet, has examples based on stats that there have been worse years produced by the PAC-10. Let's be honest, the PAC-10/12 has had some pretty bad seasons in the past, this year included. I also don't 100% blame ESPN, this was probably going to be a down year from Arizona anyway. The recruits that decided to go elsewhere aren't exactly lighting it up this season.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:41 pm

Chicat wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/281 ... basketball

Pulling no punches on just how bad this conference is...

I'll add this from Jon Wilner. It's nice that he recognizes Miller and the Arizona program as the torchbearers of the Pac 12.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/01/10/ ... -solution/" target="_blank

IMO, the Pac 12's problem is some of the coaching hires. I mean, Ernie Kent at Wazzu has been a disaster. The guy is stealing money from Pullman. Cal has been a train wreck for how many years now? UCLA has been in a slow decline since the Alford hire, propped up by the inevitable talented recruits who can win a few games but do nothing impressive on a national scale. Stanford hasn't been relevant in ten years.

Right now, the coaches who have their shit together are Miller, Altman and maybe Hopkins (the jury is still out. He has a veteran team so we'll see). Krystowiak is a solid coach but can't recruit to put together a consistent tourney team.

When you look at OOC scheduling, the Pac 12 really struggles to get decent home games. All the tough OOC games are either on a neutral court or on the road. ASU was fortunate to get KU. So conference teams schedule tough roadies, lose those games and then get criticized because the conference doesn't perform well in OOC. Duke DID NOT PLAY A TRUE ROAD GAME UNTIL THIS WEEK!!!

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:42 pm

EastCoastCat wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:Thanks Larry
And thanks ESPN. We could have very easily been carrying the torch for the league this year.

I have a sneaky suspicion that Arizona will once again carry the torch when it's all said and done.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:50 pm

zonagrad wrote:
Chicat wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/281 ... basketball

Pulling no punches on just how bad this conference is...
I'll add this from Jon Wilner. It's nice that he recognizes Miller and the Arizona program as the torchbearers of the Pac 12.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/01/10/ ... -solution/" target="_blank

IMO, the Pac 12's problem is some of the coaching hires. I mean, Ernie Kent at Wazzu has been a disaster. The guy is stealing money from Pullman. Cal has been a train wreck for how many years now? UCLA has been in a slow decline since the Alford hire, propped up by the inevitable talented recruits who can win a few games but do nothing impressive on a national scale. Stanford hasn't been relevant in ten years.

Right now, the coaches who have their shit together are Miller, Altman and maybe Hopkins (the jury is still out. He has a veteran team so we'll see). Krystowiak is a solid coach but can't recruit to put together a consistent tourney team.

When you look at OOC scheduling, the Pac 12 really struggles to get decent home games. All the tough OOC games are either on a neutral court or on the road. ASU was fortunate to get KU. So conference teams schedule tough roadies, lose those games and then get criticized because the conference doesn't perform well in OOC. Duke DID NOT PLAY A TRUE ROAD GAME UNTIL THIS WEEK!!!

Really good comments from Miller about the conference in that article

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:46 pm

Ucla with more turnovers than buckets in the first half, 14 tos

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:16 pm

UCLA looked good the first 10 minutes, not so much since then.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:58 pm

LOL Bruins. Got a slim chance.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:02 pm

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:02 pm

Omggggggg wtfffff did I just witness

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:03 pm

Wow Oregon with a massive fucking choke job in the last minute. That was wild. And then UCLA pisses it away and we get overtime

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:03 pm

Holy fuck

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:04 pm

Wow just wow and Smith wins the game winning FT.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:05 pm

Think about all those missed FTs. LOL

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:05 pm

This is where our fan base would be blaming Sean Miller and saying he’s a terrible coach. Is it Altman’s fault? Can you be a terrible coach with a Final Four on your resume?

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:06 pm

Btw who do we want to win here?

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:06 pm

Is Chris Smith related to Eddie Smith?

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:07 pm

prh wrote:Btw who do we want to win here?

Oregon has looked bad so probably them.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:07 pm

prh wrote:Btw who do we want to win here?

I was thinking Oregon since it’s just holding serve. UCLA is a contender, so we don’t want them to get a road win.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:08 pm

Funny how UCLA is so much better since firing Alford

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:14 pm

Considering I hate Oregon much more than UCLA, I'll be happy either way

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:20 pm

13 point lead with 2.5 minutes left. Massive choke by Oregon and the great Dana Altman.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:21 pm

Yeah, not a bad result either way. But that was just awful by Oregon. Not just the end of the regulation, but also end of the overtime. Too bad Altman can’t coach offense against a zone.

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