2018-2019 Arizona Basketball

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:11 pm

Longhorned wrote:If Arizona doesn't win the conference tourney, I think it's best to fully enjoy March Madness like the vast majority of America -- without all that investment of worrying about my team meeting my hopes for a deep run. And really savor it, because it's probably my last chance to have this experience in a long time.

preach....the March Madness pregame jitters will be back next year when we're the 2 seed in the West, as it seems like we have been a lot these past 10 years with Miller.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:31 pm

I’m going to be making my bracket picks this year based on mascots matchups.

I’m so excited to act like a normal American for once

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:18 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:
azgreg wrote:First time in 36 years we didn't get a player on the PAC-12 all conference team.
Another record low

The reality is most of Millers players who won awards started out as 5-stars and would have made it if a labrador was their head coach.
Hey, let's leave your wife out of this, we all agreed no personal stuff shared on this forum ok?

We named the dog Indiana.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:28 pm

My bracket is gonna be based on most wins and fewest losses.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:50 pm

that abortion of a season is now over - thank you, Jesus

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:58 pm

If Jesus was responsible for this, then I'm not thanking him.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:59 pm

Olsondogg wrote:If Jesus was responsible for this, then I'm not thanking him.

and if hes in anyway responsible for it being over? will you then give thanks?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:02 pm

97cats wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:If Jesus was responsible for this, then I'm not thanking him.
and if hes in anyway responsible for it being over? will you then give thanks?

I'm never happy when a season is over...

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:04 pm

well said, however this time im saying thx

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:05 pm

97cats wrote:well said, however this time im saying thx

I getcha. I'm just being a dick.

I'm glad that I won't (hopefully) have to read the same shit over and over again.

"Wait....what did Miller say? What did ESPN report? 97, your thoughts?"

(no offense)

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:07 pm

At least I am saving money on putting my SlingTV on pause until football season! I am thankful for that.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:08 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
I getcha. I'm just being a dick.

I'm glad that I won't (hopefully) have to read the same shit over and over again.

"Wait....what did Miller say? What did ESPN report? 97, your thoughts?"

(no offense)

none taken ...thats pretty damn funny

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:09 pm

All I want is to move forward with retaining Miller, a recruiting class and start shifting to focus to on court instead of off court issues.

I could have taken the shakiness on court. The off court stuff was exhausting.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:11 pm

Season over.

Muerto.

Bury it in the desert in an unmarked grave.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:13 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:All I want is to move forward with retaining Miller, a recruiting class and start shifting to focus to on court instead of off court issues.

I could have taken the shakiness on court. The off court stuff was exhausting.

Had this convo with friends over this year and last. BBall was much more entertaining when it was about BBall. No board, no social media, no in game stats/comments. Just watched the fucking game and hoped to win.

I'm exhausted with the overanalyziation and the constant barrage of news/rumor/opinion. Thus, I didn't spend much time on here this year but alas I'm fucking addicted to Twitter.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:49 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:All I want is to move forward with retaining Miller, a recruiting class and start shifting to focus to on court instead of off court issues.

I could have taken the shakiness on court. The off court stuff was exhausting.
Had this convo with friends over this year and last. BBall was much more entertaining when it was about BBall. No board, no social media, no in game stats/comments. Just watched the fucking game and hoped to win.

I'm exhausted with the overanalyziation and the constant barrage of news/rumor/opinion. Thus, I didn't spend much time on here this year but alas I'm fucking addicted to Twitter.

When it's about basketball, I love it. That's my most sincere hope, that next year brings as exclusively basketball as possible.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:51 pm

Mercy

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:52 pm

Wah waah waaaahhhhhhh. Abortion is right.

Hadn't watched a full game since January. Didn't watch a minute today. My fandom needs a kick in the nuts..Nico, please kick my fandom in the nuts - thanks in advance.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:57 pm

Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:00 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.

You mean when Akot QUIT on his team...everything changed

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:03 pm

Truth.

Hard to preach "All-in" after that...

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:05 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.

That plus the Jeter/BWill issues right after death spiraled us. We needed a lot of things to go right with this group of players and a lot didn't.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:21 pm

Well, thanks to the team for their fight and their effort. The losses this year never gave me disturbing dreams or the kind of torment of years past. We were just like an injured Terrier trying to keep up with a Border Collie on an obstacle course. Once Akot bailed and we got banged up we had a negative margin of error. With 2 and a half ding dongs on the court most of the time the outcome of any pass, dribble, fast break, shot, was worse than a coin toss.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:27 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.

.764 with Akot .266 without per https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... d=201408#6" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:30 pm

Akot may not have looked good statistically, but he was probably our most valuable reserve.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:36 pm

It's a team sport, and he obviously had an effect. We don't know the details and we should give the kid the benefit of the doubt, but in the meantime Fuck You Akot, Fuck You You Fucking Fuck.

I'm gonna order an Akot voodoo doll from http://www.fuckyouvoodoodoll.com" target="_blank and with the Schlabach doll, shit on them both and feed them to my neighbor's dog.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:49 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.

One of several reasons things went south, but I would agree that his departure had a bigger impact than most think.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:55 pm

I'm with all of you on this. Just relieved it's over.

We knew it was going to be bad. And it could have been worse.

Time to enjoy the tourney with no skin in the game.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:11 pm

I’m just praying we’ve seen the last pass bounced off a teammate’s face or doinked off their hands or just straight up thrown out of bounds. This is the least fundamentally sound group of players since Shakur stepped out of bounds every time he was within three feet of a sideline in possession of the ball. I’ve taken a more fundamentally sound dump after a night out drinking and wolfing down Taco Bell on the way home.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:I’m just praying we’ve seen the last pass bounced off a teammate’s face or doinked off their hands or just straight up thrown out of bounds. This is the least fundamentally sound group of players since Shakur stepped out of bounds every time he was within three feet of a sideline in possession of the ball. I’ve take a more fundamentally sound dump after a night out drinking and wolfing down Taco Bell on the way home.

Just take that dump in the Taco Bell before going home:

I have it on good authority that "mahalo" means "shitter" in Taco Bell Hawaiian.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:38 pm

Looks like somebody already wiped up on the ‘h’. Hmmm . . . if mahalo means shitter, I wonder what wiki wiki means? I think I was doing it wrong the whole time I lived there!

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:05 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:I’m just praying we’ve seen the last pass bounced off a teammate’s face or doinked off their hands or just straight up thrown out of bounds. This is the least fundamentally sound group of players since Shakur stepped out of bounds every time he was within three feet of a sideline in possession of the ball. I’ve taken a more fundamentally sound dump after a night out drinking and wolfing down Taco Bell on the way home.

Not the analogy I was expecting but....it works.

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:15 am

azcat49 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.
You mean when Akot QUIT on his team...everything changed

You mean “when Akot got sick of Millers bullcrap, like many previous players”!

Why do players opt to flee Tucson the first chance they get, transferring or going pro too early?
Akot, Simon, Comanche, Jarrett, Simmons. Could it be they dislike playing for a coach that never takes responsibility for failure and without fail blames “effort”?

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:33 am

Or maybe he's an old school coach dealing with new school, immature goofballs?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:39 am

RiseAndFire wrote:
azcat49 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.
You mean when Akot QUIT on his team...everything changed
You mean “when Akot got sick of Millers bullcrap, like many previous players”!

Why do players opt to flee Tucson the first chance they get, transferring or going pro too early?
Akot, Simon, Comanche, Jarrett, Simmons. Could it be they dislike playing for a coach that never takes responsibility for failure and without fail blames “effort”?

Yea, too bad other schools don't have players transfer out. Especially those with many NCs.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:19 am

RiseAndFire wrote:
azcat49 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.
You mean when Akot QUIT on his team...everything changed
You mean “when Akot got sick of Millers bullcrap, like many previous players”!

Why do players opt to flee Tucson the first chance they get, transferring or going pro too early?
Akot, Simon, Comanche, Jarrett, Simmons. Could it be they dislike playing for a coach that never takes responsibility for failure and without fail blames “effort”?

You're really not very good at this.

Akot listened to some idiot AAU coach over anyone and everyone with a mediocre basketball IQ.

Try listening to the quotes from Ira Lee, Ryan Luther, and Jeter about playing for Miller. Better yet, why don't you hit up Nick Johnson and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (two players who departed early) and ask them their thoughts on Sean Miller. I doubt they were sick of Miller's "bullcrap."

You're throwing any shit against the wall and hope it sticks to bash Miller, which is really no surprise considering your track record on this board. But you're so off the mark here it's laughable. Grant Jerrett and Chance Comanche each torpedoed their careers because of leaving school early. And this is Sean Miller's fault? Funny, Solomon Hill stayed four years and look at the dividends it payed.

More than anything, Emmanuel Akot let his teammates down by quitting early. Arizona surely would've won a few more games based on depth alone had he stuck around. If I'm a Boise State player and know that Akot is coming into my program, I wouldn't be happy. How can you trust a guy that quits on his teammates in the middle of January? That's a character issue.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:42 am

Merkin wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:
azcat49 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Hate to admit it, but when Akot left--everything changed.
You mean when Akot QUIT on his team...everything changed
You mean “when Akot got sick of Millers bullcrap, like many previous players”!

Why do players opt to flee Tucson the first chance they get, transferring or going pro too early?
Akot, Simon, Comanche, Jarrett, Simmons. Could it be they dislike playing for a coach that never takes responsibility for failure and without fail blames “effort”?
Yea, too bad other schools don't have players transfer out. Especially those with many NCs.

Yep. The average is 40% of freshmen will wind up at a different college than the one they begin at. Our ratio isn't odd at all vs other programs or the national average.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:36 am

I like that RiseAndFail is still trying to paint Miller as a coach who never takes responsibility for his mistakes when right after the Sweet Sixteen loss to Xavier a reporter asked why Lauri didn’t get the ball down the stretch and Miller replied “bad coaching”.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:56 pm

IIRC he said we were "outplayed and outcoached" after the loss to UNLV in '14.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:07 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:IIRC he said we were "outplayed and outcoached" after the loss to UNLV in '14.

It's trenchant analysis like that that I love with him. When you lose, you ordinarily got either outplayed or outcoached. It's really hard to outplay and outcoach an opponent and lose by 20.

Half his game analysis is nuggets like "Miller just doesn't realize you should tell players to score more points than the other team. He just doesn't understand it's hard to win when you score fewer points than UCLA."

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