Notre Dame Burns

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:19 am

Don't know what happened, so not sure where to put this, but this is just awful.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:23 am

Oh well that's not good

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:25 am

Seems to be getting worse

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:07 am

Spires have collapsed and it looks gutted now from what I can see on my phone

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:25 am

Spires that collapsed were standing since the 1100s

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:40 am

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:54 am

I read somewhere they're attributing this to the renovation.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:55 am

Genius in Chief chimes in

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:04 pm

I’m sure them making this statement in English is just a coincidence...

waysouthcat · Post by **waysouthcat** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:11 pm

Holy shit man, I was just in the cathedral last week. I noticed lots of scaffolding on top around the spire.

Just awful, there is a lot or really beautiful woodwork inside the cathedral, hopefully it will survive.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:14 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:00 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Genius in Chief chimes in

"Too bad about Noter Dame. I always thought it would make a classy casino in the hands of a special developer."

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:46 pm

April 15 is a cursed day. Lincoln died, the Titanic sank, the Tianamen Massacre, the Boston Marathon bombing and Notre Dame burning down all on April 15.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:07 pm

Remember when those fuckers in Euro Nap League were napping on the roof of Notre-Dame? Just saying.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:58 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:28 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:14 pm

I wonder how good of French that was. The only thing that offends the French more than not being able to speak French at all is speaking bad French.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:18 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:I wonder how good of French that was. The only thing that offends the French more than not being able to speak French at all is speaking bad French.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:33 pm

Dude knows 7 languages, isn't that right?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:42 pm

Trump doesn't even know one.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:51 am

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:12 am

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:01 pm

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:02 pm

CatsbyAZ wrote:Spires that collapsed were standing since the 1100s

Incorrect. The main spire had to be replaced during Notre Dame's first major restoration in the 19th century. The 1100s spire had finally been beaten down enough to be removed by 1791.

Still a significant loss. Just not as irrevocable as first projected. Thank goodness all the art and original stained glass was saved.

And thank goodness for the stone vaulted ceiling, which protected most of the main cathedral from fire damage.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:39 pm

Notre-Dame is a 19th century building to a degree that you wouldn't readily realize. Even the earliest sections of nave elevations showing the original organization of the wall are completely reconstructed by Viollet-le-Duc. It's Chartres, for example, that preserves the medieval construction and experience. If something happened to Chartres, I'd just sit in my office and cry for months.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:56 pm

Yeah, Notre Dame never showed up in lectures in the survey courses I took on history of architecture. I suspect its cultural relevance is more down to its location than its architectural import. Nevertheless a tragedy. Somebody was welding? Or some bad electrical connection. Or if you’re a loony toon right wing conspiracist, it was probably Ilhan Omar’s fault.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:43 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:Yeah, Notre Dame never showed up in lectures in the survey courses I took on history of architecture. I suspect its cultural relevance is more down to its location than its architectural import. Nevertheless a tragedy. Somebody was welding? Or some bad electrical connection. Or if you’re a loony toon right wing conspiracist, it was probably Ilhan Omar’s fault.

The flying buttress was probably invented there. But most of what was important got renovated out of existence. And most of the stained glass is long gone.

It's the most famous Gothic building, but not nearly as cool or as important as the cathedrals in the ile-de-France outside Paris: Chartres, Rheims, Amiens, etc.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:12 pm

Longhorned wrote:Notre-Dame is a 19th century building to a degree that you wouldn't readily realize. Even the earliest sections of nave elevations showing the original organization of the wall are completely reconstructed by Viollet-le-Duc. It's Chartres, for example, that preserves the medieval construction and experience. If something happened to Chartres, I'd just sit in my office and cry for months.

In your estimation do you think the stone underlying the wooden roof would have been able to withstand aerial tanker drops of water or retardant? When Lord Feltersnatch mouth-vomited something of the sort I recalled a moment on a wildfire in Montana: on approach to drop its load of retardant an tanker hit a down draft and had to drop early; a large accumulation of the slurry hit the top of an empty Cat D-6 crushing flat the cab and flipping the entire rig.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:14 pm

Was just in Paris a month ago. Showed my boys everything we could, including Notre Dame.

I also showed them the video of it burning, because time is fleeting and life is to be appreciated.

My 3 year old cried crocodile tears and a piece of my heart broke a little. I told him that while buildings can be destroyed, they can also be rebuilt—but you are one of a kind...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri May 10, 2019 8:10 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri May 10, 2019 8:31 pm

While I support those ideas...they should be done any place in Paris but Notre Dame.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri May 10, 2019 8:39 pm

I think that redesign would be amazing. Mixes the past with the future. A new classic.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri May 10, 2019 8:42 pm

Whatever the fuck. Architects are going to architect.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat May 11, 2019 9:44 pm

Lol. It’s better than some of the designs I’ve seen. But then sex with a wild bear may be better than having your willy forcibly detached by Lorena Bobbit. Maybe?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue May 14, 2019 11:52 am

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 12:13 pm

azgreg wrote:

Would make for a great game of Marco-Polo

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue May 14, 2019 9:37 pm

Euro Nap League proposes a giant mattress up there.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue May 14, 2019 10:02 pm

Two words. Hear me out......

Ball

Pit

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:27 am

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