2019/2020 Non PAC-12 Game Thread

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:29 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:Is Kentucky going to be like us last year? I saw Utah Valley played them pretty close today. Keep in mind I'm only going off scores, as I haven't seen them play yet.
It was a 4 point game most of the last 8 minutes in the game. They couldn’t really stop penetration and were generally poor on defense. They definitely need a lot of work.

Sounds like Kentucky in 2014.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:11 pm

California beat Prairie View A&M by 4. Oh well, as long as they don’t lose I guess it doesn’t matter.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:55 am

ByJoveByJingle wrote:California beat Prairie View A&M by 4. Oh well, as long as they don’t lose I guess it doesn’t matter.

They've jumped 40 spots on KenPom to start the season. Thank God.

Between Cal's hiring of Mark Fox and Wazzu's hiring of Kyle Smith... the bottom of the Pac has seriously firmed up. Add in Jerrod Haase at Stanford, Hopkins at Washington, and Cronin at UCLA and this is the best group of coaches the Pac-12 has had in some time.

Last point: I said before the season began that I thought KenPom had every Pac-12 team about ten spots too low. Since then, every team has moved up nine or more spots besides Washington and USC (who have roughly held). We now have 4 teams in the top 50 (tournament teams, with UW at 51 for 5 total), 9 teams in the top 100 (quality opponents), and every team is in the top 150. If that holds - this is the strongest top to bottom Pac-12 since 2013 and one of the top three strongest of the past fifteen years.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:46 pm

Gonzaga is beating Texas Arlington by 1 at the half.

Siempre Verde · Post by **Siempre Verde** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:12 pm

azgreg wrote:Gonzaga is beating Texas Arlington by 1 at the half.

Woolridge has some durty in his game. And the refs have decided they need to be in the box score.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:01 am

Imagine the meltdown and worry if we beat a team like UTArlington by just six at McKale?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:00 am

zonagrad wrote:Imagine the meltdown and worry if we beat a team like UTArlington by just six at McKale?

Would be written off and take a hit on the rankings.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:17 am

Longhorned wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Imagine the meltdown and worry if we beat a team like UTArlington by just six at McKale?
Would be written off and take a hit on the rankings.

I've been big on Gonzaga but they've got some real weaknesses. They play only 8 deep with two forwards and one guard on the bench. That back-up guard is a question mark (tons of potential but lacks consistency/confidence?) and the two bench forwards are freshman four stars (good players but still adjusting). Corey Kispert the starting SF is useless if he's not hitting threes. Their starting PG is a former mid-major star and it's still questionable how he'll perform against elite competition. Four of their top eight are newcomers.

Hmm... it's still early and clearly my impressions are fluid at this point, but I've got more confidence in our ability to take the W against them then I had entering the season.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:43 am

Gonzaga is going to have some loses this non conference.

They're going to Battle 4 Atlantis. The second round matchup they're going to face at least one top #15 team in Seton Hall or Oregon, the possible championship game would be vs North Carolina.

Then they play @ Washington
Then they play @ Arizona
The they play North Carolina again at home in Spokane

If they go through that with 1 or 2 loses they'll likely be a top 2 seed

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:54 pm

That schedule is brutal. Why can't we schedule like that?

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:49 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:That schedule is brutal. Why can't we schedule like that?

Because we don’t play in a conference filled with borderline Div 1 schools. They have to.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:20 pm

How would we feel if we had just a 2 point lead at home against Elon with 3:58 to go in the first half? North Carolina is not the 5th best team in the country.

prh · Post by **prh** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:21 pm

Louisville was down in the 2nd half tonight before pulling away late

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:22 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:That schedule is brutal. Why can't we schedule like that?
Because we don’t play in a conference filled with borderline Div 1 schools. They have to.

Cal & Wazzu would finish middle of the pac in that conference.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:23 pm

zonagrad wrote:How would we feel if we had just a 2 point lead at home against Elon with 3:58 to go in the first half? North Carolina is not the 5th best team in the country.

I was thinking the same exact thing. They have no business being ranked #5.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:41 am

zonagrad wrote:How would we feel if we had just a 2 point lead at home against Elon with 3:58 to go in the first half? North Carolina is not the 5th best team in the country.

I've been saying this since before the season tipped off. UNC is not a top ten team this season and I doubt they ever will be.

UNC fans are finally getting the picture with that struggle session against Elon (ranked 315th by KenPom). Some are still saying "well we'll get Brandon Robinson and Sterling Manley back soon and that will change everything." Those are two former three star recruits who have spent their whole career as bench players. While we've never brought in players ranked that low under Miller, it'd be something like if we were struggling this season and blamed it on Ira Lee and Dylan Smith being out with injury.

We can talk about the greatness of Cole Anthony (who took 14 FGAs to get 9 pts last night, and took 24 attempts to get 20pts two games prior)... and Garrison Brooks is a nice two way forward... but the rest of that team is shaky. Can't wait to see them tumble down the rankings with the games they have coming up (Ohio State, UVA, Alabama, Gonzaga, Michigan / Iowa St, Oregon / Seton Hall / Gonzaga). Wouldn't be surprised to see them with a dozen losses by the end of the year.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:42 am

prh wrote:Louisville was down in the 2nd half tonight before pulling away late

Crushed that ending ten minutes though, so gotta respect that despite letting a horrible team stay in the game for 30 min. Still finished with a 1.23ppp vs 0.81ppp (incredible offense and defense in total).

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:33 pm

How great of Duke to play Cal who is rebuilding their program. Would be great if somehow the beats beat those dipsh$ts

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:08 pm

zonagrad wrote:Imagine the meltdown and worry if we beat a team like UTArlington by just six at McKale?

Oops.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:22 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Imagine the meltdown and worry if we beat a team like UTArlington by just six at McKale?
Oops.

Well it was 7 so I'm not freaking out too bad, it should have been 10 but for a prayer of a shot.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:26 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Imagine the meltdown and worry if we beat a team like UTArlington by just six at McKale?
Oops.
Well it was 7 so I'm not freaking out too bad, it should have been 10 but for a prayer of a shot.

I tend not to overreact to any single data point in a season. My blood pressure is too high as it is.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:45 pm

I thought Duke actually played a game west of the Mississippi. Nope.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:46 pm

Coastal Carolina giving it to Baylor, that brewton kid is good.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:55 pm

Pot licking refs are trying to keep Duke in the game against Georgetown

Dukes team right now, Jones, Carey, ref, ref, ref.

ralmom22 · Post by **ralmom22** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:12 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Pot licking refs are trying to keep Duke in the game against Georgetown

Dukes team right now, Jones, Carey, ref, ref, ref.

It’s so ridiculous! My son is screaming at the TV!

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:29 pm

ralmom22 wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Pot licking refs are trying to keep Duke in the game against Georgetown

Dukes team right now, Jones, Carey, ref, ref, ref.
It’s so ridiculous! My son is screaming at the TV!

Worst officiated game I've ever seen in my life. Worst. Worst. Worst!!!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:06 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:
ralmom22 wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Pot licking refs are trying to keep Duke in the game against Georgetown

Dukes team right now, Jones, Carey, ref, ref, ref.
It’s so ridiculous! My son is screaming at the TV!
Worst officiated game I've ever seen in my life. Worst. Worst. Worst!!!

Gotta get K to pass Wooden and set the record for most wins as an AP #1 team somehow.

I mean, if they lost they’d probably slide all the way down to #2 and it might take a few games to get another shot at it.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:13 pm

Villanova and Baylor locked in a tight on in Myrtle Beach.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:05 pm

Baylor about to get a big W vs. Nova. Our game against the Bears just got a little more meaningful.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:16 pm

Dayton looks strong

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:11 pm

Down goes Sparty.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:26 pm

azgreg wrote:Down goes Sparty.

Getting blitzed on the boards doesn't matter if you take 21 3s and make nearly half of them.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:26 pm

azgreg wrote:Down goes Sparty.

Heck of a win by the Hokies.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:57 pm

Richmond over Wisky. That’s a shame.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:02 pm

Let's go chaminade, take out fuegshawks!!

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:03 pm

zonagrad wrote:Richmond over Wisky. That’s a shame.

Bless their hearts

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:12 pm

If Kansas loses this game, does it count against them since chaminade is D2?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:11 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Richmond over Wisky. That’s a shame.
Bless their hearts

Took the words right outta my mouth. Now, if instead of Richmond it were us, Bo Ryan would have morphed out of a bench cushion, Stankface & Cracker would have suited up and, and..... thank fucking god we beat Illinois.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:01 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Richmond over Wisky. That’s a shame.
Bless their hearts

Trailing New Mexico by 9 at the half.

Aaaaaand lose by 9 to the Lobos.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:59 pm

Whoa, Dayton. Boy they looked good and where did this kid. Toppin come from. They are definitely America’s underdog. If they play Kansas tomorrow watch out. FF worthy or at least a threat

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:26 pm

I deeply desire for Barcello to bust out a 40 point game tonight against the JayCucks.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:47 pm

9 minutes to go in the 2h and Dook just can't put the Jacks away.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:53 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:9 minutes to go in the 2h and Dook just can't put the Jacks away.

I’m sure the refs will take care of it eventually.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:12 pm

DIE DOOK! DIE DIE FUCKING DIE!!!

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:14 pm

Watching this games makes me wish we could play at Duke.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:16 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:18 pm

Groan

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:25 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:Watching this games makes me wish we could play at Duke.

Same

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:27 pm

DIE YOU PUSTULANT ABOMINATION!! DIE DIE FUCKING DIE!!

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:28 pm

OH MY GOD1!!1!1@2

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