F*ck Larry Scott

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:31 am

The multi-year agreement makes Jockey the exclusive apparel partner for the Pac-12 broadcast team and analysts,

I wonder what Bill Walton is going to say about that. No more tie die shirts?

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:48 am

That should help get us top notch recruits with all the camps and tourney's they run. This just set the conference back 5 years. Hopefully it can be overturned. What a f'n joke.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:10 pm

Isn’t he a lame duck president with no authority to make major decisions anymore until he is out?

Better question - Can’t we just fire him now and escort him off the premises?

mofo · Post by **mofo** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:30 pm

Maybe I'm being naive, but this just means Jockey will have some "brought to you by" plugs and commercials during Pac-12 tourneys and the broadcasters will wear Jockey shirts right? It's not like schools in the conference have to do anything with Jockey, at least as opposed to their own sponsors.

Strange given the timing (and the brand), but I'm not seeing how this is detrimental, at least without knowing our other options, unless Nike says "F the P12" because of it. Who was the Pac 12 apparel sponsor previously?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:41 pm

Not like anyone watches or can get the Pac-12 channel outside of some diehard fans.

Which means I just canceled Sling TV this morning since my watching season is over.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:56 pm

mofo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:30 pm Maybe I'm being naive, but this just means Jockey will have some "brought to you by" plugs and commercials during Pac-12 tourneys and the broadcasters will wear Jockey shirts right? It's not like schools in the conference have to do anything with Jockey, at least as opposed to their own sponsors.

Strange given the timing (and the brand), but I'm not seeing how this is detrimental, at least without knowing our other options, unless Nike says "F the P12" because of it. Who was the Pac 12 apparel sponsor previously?

Wait, no red and blue undies?

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:33 pm

Can someone define what this actually means? Is it a simple sponsorship of the PAC-12 network or what? I know Jockey has been trying to break into athletic wear also. If it is athletic wear then the Pac's goose is cooked.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:07 pm

Hey Larry, why not Fruit of the Loom or Victoria's Secret? Maybe Lululemon Athletica wants to get into the act.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:43 pm

I heard the Equestrian team is really excited.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:54 am

Does this change when the announcers are back on the court?

I mean everyone runs around in their undies on zoom calls, but bill walton sporting a pair of boxer briefs at the announcers table might get pac 12 games even fewer eyeballs, if that's even possible.

Gonna have to make sure that table has a skirt in front of it!!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:38 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:33 pm Can someone define what this actually means? Is it a simple sponsorship of the PAC-12 network or what? I know Jockey has been trying to break into athletic wear also. If it is athletic wear then the Pac's goose is cooked.

It won’t affect what teams and coaches wear. Just Pac-12 Network and Conference personnel.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:01 pm

Remember that famous quote by Churchill during the Blitz: Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.

If applied to Larry Scott: Never has one received so much for so little work.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:45 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:38 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:33 pm Can someone define what this actually means? Is it a simple sponsorship of the PAC-12 network or what? I know Jockey has been trying to break into athletic wear also. If it is athletic wear then the Pac's goose is cooked.
It won’t affect what teams and coaches wear. Just Pac-12 Network and Conference personnel.

Thanks Chi. I could care less what they wear.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:52 pm

TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:45 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:38 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:33 pm Can someone define what this actually means? Is it a simple sponsorship of the PAC-12 network or what? I know Jockey has been trying to break into athletic wear also. If it is athletic wear then the Pac's goose is cooked.
It won’t affect what teams and coaches wear. Just Pac-12 Network and Conference personnel.
Thanks Chi. I could care less what they wear.

To me it's an optics problem. We are an athletic conference with an apparel contract with a non-athletic brand. And not only are they an non-athletic brand, they're known for basic crappy underwear that your grandfather used to wear. Their biggest innovation in the last 50 years was introducing color to what were just tighty-whities and finally getting into boxers.

Larry might as well have inked a deal with Wonder Bread to be the exclusive food provider to the conference.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:35 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:52 pm
TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:45 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:38 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:33 pm Can someone define what this actually means? Is it a simple sponsorship of the PAC-12 network or what? I know Jockey has been trying to break into athletic wear also. If it is athletic wear then the Pac's goose is cooked.
It won’t affect what teams and coaches wear. Just Pac-12 Network and Conference personnel.
Thanks Chi. I could care less what they wear.
To me it's an optics problem. We are an athletic conference with an apparel contract with a non-athletic brand. And not only are they an non-athletic brand, they're known for basic crappy underwear that your grandfather used to wear. Their biggest innovation in the last 50 years was introducing color to what were just tighty-whities and finally getting into boxers.

Larry might as well have inked a deal with Wonder Bread to be the exclusive food provider to the conference.

Crustless wonder bread. Gotta be so basic that it barely keeps the meat in place

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:13 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:31 am The multi-year agreement makes Jockey the exclusive apparel partner for the Pac-12 broadcast team and analysts,

I wonder what Bill Walton is going to say about that. No more tie die shirts?

They could bring back this old advertising campaign with Pac-12 broadcasters

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:38 am

Jim Palmer aka Sigourney Weaver

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:35 pm

The PAC 12 Twitter account has been posting some Jockey bullshit lately. Embarrassing.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:29 pm

What the hell is Carlton wearing?

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:06 am

It was the 70’s.....

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:49 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:36 am

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:44 am

This response says it all.

Zach Barnett
@zach_barnett

3h
Replying to
@DanWolken
The Brits love Beaver softball, Dan.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:01 pm

Let those mouth breathing conferences like the SEC, ACC, Big12, and B1G worry about silly pursuits like winning football and basketball championships and generating millions in revenue for their member schools.

The Pac12 has higher ideals....

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:59 pm

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:35 pm

Are either of those good choices? I mean anyone is better than Larry Scott, but I'm hoping for more than just better.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:03 pm

I thought Luck was out?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:02 pm

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:07 pm

The quality of life in Evanston? Gimme Rogers Park.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:15 pm

So the candidates are from Cal, with the worst stadium deal in the history of recorded man, and WSU, who has by far the worst facilities in the PAC, and today would not even be allowed in the PAC?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:21 pm

Please take Heeke

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:33 pm

Maybe ill fill out an application for heeke and send it over there. We need a change of scenery. Oops, he needs a change of scenery.

Siempre Verde · Post by **Siempre Verde** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:19 pm

Heeke’s wife seems like a nice lady, but I saw her sneeze multiple times at a men’s baseball game a couple of years ago. Pretty sure she’s allergic to Tucson.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:51 am

Another wife allergic to Tucson? Heh.

Maybe she’s allergic to weasel-ass husbands.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:18 am

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:59 pm

Just seeing this now, but if this is true it's a HARD PASS on Nevarez. She's literally from the Larry Scott commissioner tree. We need fresh ideas and fresh POVs. If it's truly down to Luck or Nevarez give me Oliver Luck in a landslide.

azpatnca · Post by **azpatnca** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:24 pm

I thought they were offering Byrne. Did he turn it down or did those idiots not offer him?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:29 pm

Byrne said he wasn't interested. Not sure if there was any interest from the Pac-12 or not though.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:45 pm

Oliver Luck would be an incredible upgrade over Larry Scott. I appreciate that Nevarez has the nuts and bolts background in the conference but Luck is clearly the kind of leader we need.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:02 am

These assholes need to be saved from themselves.

Two people at the top? Two competing visions? Just dissolve now and save us the embarrassment.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:07 am

Just hire Oliver Luck FFS.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:43 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:02 am These assholes need to be saved from themselves.

Two people at the top? Two competing visions? Just dissolve now and save us the embarrassment.

When asked how the conference chain of command would work for campus-specific issues (i.e., would the liaison have final authority, or the commissioner), one source said: “I have no idea how it would work.”

Always an encouraging sign.

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:38 am

God. A real commissioner can hire whoever he/she wants as an expert in media deals. But the chain of command still has one person at the top of the org chart. I really hope this is just leverage in negotiations with Luck. I dunno, I guess I'm stupid, but it seems pretty basic to start a search with the #2 person at the best couple of conferences and maybe a handful of the very best ADs. Or you can hire a search firm you can blame if it doesn't work out. The problem, as always, is with the presidents. They want to have their cake and eat it, too. And they can't punch their way out of a wet paper bag.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:44 am

Sounds like the UA president got involved...

But seriously, it sounds like all of the Pac-12 presidents are incompetent when it comes to sports. Seems like more of the we are going to do it different and fail again model. I pretty much expect that the hire will be terrible. At least this way I can never be truly disappointed.

Basketcats · Post by **Basketcats** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:00 pm

I am half joking when I say this, but, screw the PAC12. Defect and join the BIG12. I just don't see the PAC12 making a rational decision on who the commissioner should be. It's seems like a grander version of the Robbins and Heeke show right now.

Edit/Update...

I had never looked at the broadcast deals that the BIG12 has in place until now. They seem to have it together as far as how they structure the conference coverage and payout. Allowing the schools to monetize the media rights for some of their events without having to split the pot amongst the other schools is the way the PAC12 should have been all along. The BIG12 is the only conference doing this too. Some of there member schools are killing it as far as revenue goes. This seems like a no-brainer to me.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:27 pm

I think that you have all forgotten who is making these decisions, these are the highest minded, most educated people the left coast has to offer. There is no end to the level of innovation, forward thought, and collaboration that they are capable of.

Money you say?

Money is nothing more than numbers on a screen that the government types up every day.

You don't even have to cut down trees or mine graphite or drill for oil to make "money" anymore, you just exist and poof, more money!!!!!

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:50 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:27 pm I think that you have all forgotten who is making these decisions, these are the highest minded, most educated people the left coast has to offer. There is no end to the level of innovation, forward thought, and collaboration that they are capable of.

Money you say?

Money is nothing more than numbers on a screen that the government types up every day.

You don't even have to cut down trees or mine graphite or drill for oil to make "money" anymore, you just exist and poof, more money!!!!!

Money is no issue for these geniuses when it comes to paying administrators and cronies, just as long as the students are paying for it with increased tuition and the athletes are not being paid.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:38 pm

DrWildcat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:44 am Sounds like the UA president got involved...

But seriously, it sounds like all of the Pac-12 presidents are incompetent when it comes to sports. Seems like more of the we are going to do it different and fail again model. I pretty much expect that the hire will be terrible. At least this way I can never be truly disappointed.

Dunno, this one sort of reeks like we're thinking outside the box because inside the box options have failed.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:41 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:38 pm
DrWildcat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:44 am Sounds like the UA president got involved...

But seriously, it sounds like all of the Pac-12 presidents are incompetent when it comes to sports. Seems like more of the we are going to do it different and fail again model. I pretty much expect that the hire will be terrible. At least this way I can never be truly disappointed.
Dunno, this one sort of reeks like we're thinking outside the box because inside the box options have failed.

"Our commissioner sucked so let's hire two shitty commissioners" is thinking outside the box?

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:14 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:38 pm
DrWildcat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:44 am Sounds like the UA president got involved...

But seriously, it sounds like all of the Pac-12 presidents are incompetent when it comes to sports. Seems like more of the we are going to do it different and fail again model. I pretty much expect that the hire will be terrible. At least this way I can never be truly disappointed.
Dunno, this one sort of reeks like we're thinking outside the box because inside the box options have failed.

I would say hiring Scott was a little out of the box. Keeping control of the Pac12 networks instead of partnering with an ESPN/FOX was outside the box. I guess I just see it the other way from you, maybe we need some more inside the box thinking here.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:34 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:02 am These assholes need to be saved from themselves.

Two people at the top? Two competing visions? Just dissolve now and save us the embarrassment.

Everyone: The next hire will automatically be better than Larry Scott.

Pac 12: Hold my beer.

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