The 2021-2022 Season Thread

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:52 pm

I totally forgot about Tibet Gorener and you know what: y'all did too

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:03 pm

Would've liked to see Bennedict in some az gear but tags great news

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:12 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:51 pm
Alieberman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:42 pm
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:39 pm
gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:02 pm Agree that Ballo is a much better player than Tautvilas and actual stands on his own merits, I was referring more to the added value seems low based on our current and future roster. Glad to hear that you don't think that this was done for the purpose of appeasing another player.
This is the part I struggle with. If you think you're retaining JB and Koloko for 2 years, Azuolas for 1 and getting Anderson next year...dunno, it's just hard to see what Ballo brings until maybe 3 years in the future.

If he wants to be here and is cool with minutes being tough to come by, ok, I guess. Spokane is too cold, maybe?
I like having players that aren't afraid of some tough competition.
Yeah, but those players can easily become players who are dissatisfied with their role when the minutes they thought they could get don't appear.

Which is why I made the cold joke. Ballo had tough competition at Gonzaga, and every article I could find said he'd wanted a larger role. I'm just not sure I see that as likely at Arizona.

With Chet coming in and mustache guy back, maybe Ballo thought he would sit a whole lot.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:05 pm

Need a point guard like we need oxygen to breathe.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:25 am

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:30 am

Not Arizona good? CTL's decision?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:06 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:30 am Not Arizona good? CTL's decision?

He was a very good defender, conference DPOY. His offense was much less of an asset. He's probably have been a rotational bench guy and option against smaller 4's as a good defender and rebounder at 6'7.

Most of all, he committed to Miller the day before Robbins fired Miller. Of all the players, I feel like his leaving is by far the most understandable. The situation he committed to didn't even last 24 hours.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:31 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:30 am Not Arizona good? CTL's decision?

I believe that Lloyd kindly informed him that he really wouldn't be a fit in his system.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:41 pm

Seriously, why would any basketball player choose Wazzu over the UA? Better facilities, better travel, better weather, much better city, hotter coeds and so on.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:51 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:41 pm Seriously, why would any basketball player choose Wazzu over the UA? Better facilities, better travel, better weather, much better city, hotter coeds and so on.

Potential playing time...

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:56 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:41 pm Seriously, why would any basketball player choose Wazzu over the UA? Better facilities, better travel, better weather, much better city, hotter coeds and so on.

Or Lloyd wants your scholarship for TyTy.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:17 pm

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:56 pm
Merkin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:41 pm Seriously, why would any basketball player choose Wazzu over the UA? Better facilities, better travel, better weather, much better city, hotter coeds and so on.
Or Lloyd wants your scholarship for TyTy.

We're only at 9 with Kerr, 11 if Dezonie and Nowell come through, 12 if TyTy commits. So Aikens would have been 13 (with TyTy) so maybe coach is holding open for TyTy and a (unnamed) transfer.

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:41 pm

I think it's for another transfer. Can definitely see us going after a shooting guard in the portal. Kerr is a point guard and could be our point guard off the bench in a sixth man role

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:02 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:17 pm
UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:56 pm
Merkin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:41 pm Seriously, why would any basketball player choose Wazzu over the UA? Better facilities, better travel, better weather, much better city, hotter coeds and so on.
Or Lloyd wants your scholarship for TyTy.
We're only at 9 with Kerr, 11 if Dezonie and Nowell come through, 12 if TyTy commits. So Aikens would have been 13 (with TyTy) so maybe coach is holding open for TyTy and a (unnamed) transfer.

I think if Terry is gone Nowell is gone which would open up another spot. With that said I am hoping both stay.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:10 pm

So do we think by the end of next week we will know for sure what the final roster will look like (end of April)?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm

Awesome news, now we have at least one PG on the roster.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm

Good stuff all around is happening guys.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:30 pm

Awesome

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:39 pm

And JET is returning. Great news day!

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:40 pm

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:44 pm

Guess Nowell is also staying

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:47 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

What is this feeling... is it hope?

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:48 pm

very glad that Terry stayed

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:50 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:48 pm very glad that Terry stayed

It was really the best option for all involved.

Not sure if Lloyd is shutting someone out that he's close to and always envisioned working with, but this will go a hell of a long way to making sure the alumni get on board. He just made it really difficult for some of the more vocal alums to stay mad.

Since he's been visiting football practices, I'm sure Lloyd has seen the buy in from the football alums and how that take a few steps toward creating a culture.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

I’ll be happy when you tell me Mathurin is locked in

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

Man TyTy seems like the puzzle piece to 2021-2022 being very, very exciting. I feel bad for Miller because he put in a lot of the work for this foundation but I think things are looking very good all around for Arizona right now.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:50 pm
PieceOfMeat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:48 pm very glad that Terry stayed
It was really the best option for all involved.

Not sure if Lloyd is shutting someone out that he's close to and always envisioned working with, but this will go a hell of a long way to making sure the alumni get on board. He just made it really difficult for some of the more vocal alums to stay mad.

Since he's been visiting football practices, I'm sure Lloyd has seen the buy in from the football alums and how that take a few steps toward creating a culture.

I imagine that since this is a very late cycle coaching search, it makes sense for both sides to come together for this year and then see where that takes us. Wouldn't surprise me to see one of Murphy or Terry leave after the season and Lloyd continue to bring in "his guys" to add to what he's looking to create here.

Keeping both is the proper bridge and I'm very happy to see Lloyd achieve it.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 pm

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm Man TyTy seems like the puzzle piece to 2021-2022 being very, very exciting. I feel bad for Miller because he put in a lot of the work for this foundation but I think things are looking very good all around for Arizona right now.

Lloyd getting the Steve Kerr replacing Mark Jackson at Golden State set up...

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:00 pm

Now we just need Ben M to stay put. Hearing good things on TyTy as well!

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:06 pm

Anyone want to tell me Benn back now? Once I get that message I'll be off pins and needles

ProfessorFate · Post by **ProfessorFate** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm

I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:09 pm

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:06 pm Anyone want to tell me Benn back now? Once I get that message I'll be off pins and needles

Benn never left.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:09 pm

I am very excited to see Murphy and Terry back. I can't wait for the season to start up again.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:11 pm

ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.

Can't replicate the size of those Baylor dudes

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:22 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 pm
UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm Man TyTy seems like the puzzle piece to 2021-2022 being very, very exciting. I feel bad for Miller because he put in a lot of the work for this foundation but I think things are looking very good all around for Arizona right now.
Lloyd getting the Steve Kerr replacing Mark Jackson at Golden State set up...

I would be pretty happy if we have the same results that Golden St ended up having.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:25 pm

ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.

According to Scheer, the player development coach for the Phoenix Suns is the most likely third assistant. Don't know much about him other than he is an analytics guy.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:28 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:11 pm
ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.
Can't replicate the size of those Baylor dudes

What is this talk about Baylor being the bigger team? They started 6'2" / 6'3" / 6'4" / 6'5" and a 6'10" center!!

I made a bundle betting that game, and the obvious reason Baylor was going to win wasn't that they were "bigger" (although they were certainly blacker, if that's the translation). Baylor had a TON of three point shooting and Gonzaga really didn't have much outside of Kispert and Ayayi.

Baylor buried the Gonzaga team in early threes and then took away perimeter shots from the two guys who could actually shoot it for Gonzaga. I mean shit - Gonzaga shot SIXTY THREE percent on two point attempts. They simply didn't have the three point firepower to keep up after Baylor opened up on a 29-10 run to start the game.

It wasn't "size."

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:39 pm

Anyways - Terry seems to have started dripping on TyTy via social yesterday so a) could have seen this one coming if we were slick, and b) hopefully retaining Terry helps us secure TyTy.

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:42 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:09 pm
BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:06 pm Anyone want to tell me Benn back now? Once I get that message I'll be off pins and needles
Benn never left.

Yes but there is a chance he transfers or goes pro. Leaving options open

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:47 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:28 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:11 pm
ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.
Can't replicate the size of those Baylor dudes
What is this talk about Baylor being the bigger team? They started 6'2" / 6'3" / 6'4" / 6'5" and a 6'10" center!!

I made a bundle betting that game, and the obvious reason Baylor was going to win wasn't that they were "bigger" (although they were certainly blacker, if that's the translation). Baylor had a TON of three point shooting and Gonzaga really didn't have much outside of Kispert and Ayayi.

Baylor buried the Gonzaga team in early threes and then took away perimeter shots from the two guys who could actually shoot it for Gonzaga. I mean shit - Gonzaga shot SIXTY THREE percent on two point attempts. They simply didn't have the three point firepower to keep up after Baylor opened up on a 29-10 run to start the game.

It wasn't "size."

They lifted with the football team and it showed because they bullied Gonzaga.

Just pushed them around physically.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:51 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:25 pm
ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.
According to Scheer, the player development coach for the Phoenix Suns is the most likely third assistant. Don't know much about him other than he is an analytics guy.

Here's that coach:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riccardo_Fois

He's a former Zag coach:
https://gozags.com/sports/mens-basketba ... o-fois/256

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:53 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:28 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:11 pm
ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:07 pm I'm hoping the last assistant spot goes to his buddy Jakus from Baylor. Did you see how they played defense against Gonzaga? They were up in their grill the entire game. Would love to see us use an aggressive D like that to go with the uptempo offense.
Can't replicate the size of those Baylor dudes
What is this talk about Baylor being the bigger team? They started 6'2" / 6'3" / 6'4" / 6'5" and a 6'10" center!!

I made a bundle betting that game, and the obvious reason Baylor was going to win wasn't that they were "bigger" (although they were certainly blacker, if that's the translation). Baylor had a TON of three point shooting and Gonzaga really didn't have much outside of Kispert and Ayayi.

Baylor buried the Gonzaga team in early threes and then took away perimeter shots from the two guys who could actually shoot it for Gonzaga. I mean shit - Gonzaga shot SIXTY THREE percent on two point attempts. They simply didn't have the three point firepower to keep up after Baylor opened up on a 29-10 run to start the game.

It wasn't "size."

Baylor's an interesting study. They used to be all 2-3. Now they play an aggressive man.

It wasn't really D in the NCG. Gonzaga was ok on offense. Gonzaga got outrebounded 34-17 and 14-1 on the offensive glass. Zaga also had 14 to's to Baylor's 7.

Baylor made 3's and took 18 more shots than Gonzaga. That was the big driver.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm

Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:10 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

If he can win back Spiff, then it would be a miracle

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:12 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

Which tells me Robbins' decision to fire Miller had nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with on court results and the trajectory of the program. It was all about ego.

Having said that -- Lloyd deserves fan support and I think he'll get it. In fact, I think most, not all fans, get it: They support the basketball program and the current coach, players, staff, etc...
And they know that Robbins and Heeke are trash.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:15 pm

zonagrad wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:12 pm
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.
Which tells me Robbins' decision to fire Miller had nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with on court results and the trajectory of the program. It was all about ego.

Having said that -- Lloyd deserves fan support and I think he'll get it. In fact, I think most, not all fans, get it: They support the basketball program and the current coach, players, staff, etc...
And they know that Robbins and Heeke are trash.

Agree 1000%.

Oh and I forgot to say...Fuck Robbins and Heeke.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:06 pm

Can we have Skyy Clark pls...

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:38 pm

Anyone know anything about Iowa guard that just entered portal.
Near 45% 3pt but only scored 7.5 ppg.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:18 pm

zonagrad wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:12 pm
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.
Which tells me Robbins' decision to fire Miller had nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with on court results and the trajectory of the program. It was all about ego.

Having said that -- Lloyd deserves fan support and I think he'll get it. In fact, I think most, not all fans, get it: They support the basketball program and the current coach, players, staff, etc...
And they know that Robbins and Heeke are trash.

Ha, I literally posted just about this exact thing in the other thread, then opened this and saw you saying the same.

It doesn't get clearer this was Robbins's ego than the fact Lloyd's first giant step to success is retaining the players and coaching staff Miller had.

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