2020-2021 Phoenix Suns

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:20 am

Call this 20/20 hindsight or Monday morning QBing but Phoenix not getting the ball to Ayton all game really fucked them in the 4th quarter.

The offense in the last fifteen minutes was CP dribble for 15 seconds then work for a mid range shot or a drive and kick to Crowder/Cam(x2), or Booker dribble for ten seconds and then drive & put up a floater. The Bucks certainly didn’t fear the three point shot and Ayton’s ability to draw double and triple teams BEFORE the pass was totally negated.

The one time CP did look for Deandre it took maybe the greatest defensive play in the history of the NBA to stop it. Seriously… who has ever heard of a player successfully defending the dribble AND THE drive?

If Phoenix doesn’t feed Ayton on the block they become easy to stop. Simple as that.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:30 pm

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:13 pm I have watched very little NBA this season. But what I see I am not impressed with Chris Paul.

Chris Paul looked out of gas. Jrue Holiday was allowed to push CP3 around all night, which bottlenecked his productivity, all while the Suns were handed out fouls pretty much anytime Milwaukee had the ball.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:33 pm

OREB%: Bucks 29.8; Suns 17.6

TO%: Bucks 8.1; Suns 12.3

STL%: Bucks 8.1; Suns 5.8

Points off TOs: Bucks 67; Suns 46

Second Chance Points: Bucks 65; Suns 35

Fastbreak Points: Bucks 65; Suns 33

Points in the Paint: Bucks 198; Suns 152

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:15 pm

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:58 pm

No more Talking Stick. Now its the Footprint Center

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:08 pm

What the fuck is Footprint?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:19 pm

I still struggle not calling it America West Arena

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:23 pm

I'm the only one in line at Veteran's Memorial Coliseum!

Go Suns!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:24 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:23 pm I'm the only one in line at Veteran's Memorial Coliseum!

Go Suns!

The proper name is "The Madhouse on McDowell".

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:48 pm

ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:19 pm I still struggle not calling it America West Arena

Whoever called it that?

It was America Worst Arena.

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:21 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:23 pm I'm the only one in line at Veteran's Memorial Coliseum!

Go Suns!

Thats because its the worst venue on the planet. Vets Mem sucks, full stop.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:59 am

Veteran's Memorial Coliseum was one of the worst "modern" arenas in the 70s and 80s, just behind Hemisfair in San Antonio.

Footprint is a seriously cool for a corporate sponsor, if such a thing can exist.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:04 am

Elitists.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:49 pm

The Forum was also a dump.

Two confounding things from that era were the Lakers' inability to match their jerseys' shades of purple to that of their shorts, and the Suns letting their home court's purple keys get scuffed and faded into lavender.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:45 pm

Antetokounmpo is out for tonight's game.

Not that one, the other one.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:26 pm

Dirty foul on Giannis... and its not even called...

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:32 pm

Everyone on Suns has a hot hand right now!!!!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:32 pm

Bucks need time!!!

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:36 pm

YO BUCKY! You're not in Milwalkie anymore.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:40 pm

37 point quarter!!!!

Keep it going!!!!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:57 pm

Pathetic

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:01 pm

Impressive shooting by Bucks in 2nd quarter but Suns shot selection has been stupid since the quarter break

cpt · Post by **cpt** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:16 pm

Pathetic quarter by the Suns. Also so grating that the entire ESPN crew seems to be rooting for Milwaukee.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:38 pm

No defense from the Suns.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 pm

What an epic collapse this is turning into. Luckily after 50 years I'm getting used to it.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:55 pm

We can't just be the DBook iso show and expect the rest of the team to be productive.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:01 pm

Monty is getting outcoached.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:06 pm

We're making 60% from 3. Take more 3s maybe?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:13 pm

Suns aren’t playing great but the Bucks can’t miss

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:14 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:01 pm Monty is getting outcoached.

Yup, if we lose a game 5 by double digits on our home court there's no better summary.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:20 pm

Why take a shot which you make at a nearly 65% rate when you can take one that you make at 50 something?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:27 pm

3 point game!

Post by **UAdevil** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:28 pm

1 point.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:29 pm

I have no idea how we are still in this game

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:31 pm

Post by **UAdevil** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:32 pm

Lame AF

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:33 pm

Groan

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:33 pm

Booker with the clutch turnover to seal our fate. Oh well, maybe we can make the finals in another 28 years.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:34 pm

Their 4th Q offensive boards are really starting to bug me.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:46 pm

The Suns are really good obviously but the Bucks learned faster how to play in the Finals. Suns took plays off yet again when they built a lead. The Bucks don't take a second off.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:12 pm

I knew I shouldn't have gotten excited.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:54 am

Longhorned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:46 pm The Suns are really good obviously but the Bucks learned faster how to play in the Finals. Suns took plays off yet again when they built a lead. The Bucks don't take a second off.

This game completely shifted at the start of the 2nd quarter. The Bucks sat Giannis for an extended period and the Suns then for some reason just started to jack up 3's early in the clock instead of driving to the basket. The misses led to many easy Bucks baskets on the other end.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:02 am

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:13 am

Most of these guys are young and will have other chances.

But Monty needs to tell CP3: “If you lose this series, you’ll take it to your fucking grave.”

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:21 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:54 am
Longhorned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:46 pm The Suns are really good obviously but the Bucks learned faster how to play in the Finals. Suns took plays off yet again when they built a lead. The Bucks don't take a second off.
This game completely shifted at the start of the 2nd quarter. The Bucks sat Giannis for an extended period and the Suns then for some reason just started to jack up 3's early in the clock instead of driving to the basket. The misses led to many easy Bucks baskets on the other end.

Those are exactly the plays they took off. And yes, they were like voluntary turnovers. Suns sat Ayton and Bucks played Lopez against the small ball. Instead of killing Lopez with ball movement and screens, Suns jacked it up early in the shot clock, and then played lazy transition D on the way back down the floor and got picked apart.

We built the 1st quarter lead with defense that gave the Bucks no space to operate, and they turned it over repeatedly. Then we came out in the second quarter and stopped playing offense, and gave them the open floor. By the time the Suns got serious again, the Bucks were ridiculously hot.

The Bucks gave 100% on every possession, rebound, and loose ball all game long. The Suns took off half of the second quarter like it was the regular season.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:19 am

In 2009 when I saw the fans rush the field early against Oregon, I knew we were going to lose.

When I saw the dude counting money during Giannis free throws I knew that the Suns were losing this series. There is no way to overcome such douchebagery.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:41 am

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:19 am In 2009 when I saw the fans rush the field early against Oregon, I knew we were going to lose.

Same. Mike Stoops going into the prevent defense to start the 4th quarter.

The only thing the prevent defense does is prevent winning. Quote by the former Notre Dame coach who became an announcer.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:25 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:41 am
UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:19 am In 2009 when I saw the fans rush the field early against Oregon, I knew we were going to lose.
Same. Mike Stoops going into the prevent defense to start the 4th quarter.

The only thing the prevent defense does is prevent winning. Quote by the former Notre Dame coach who became an announcer.

Yeah but UofAlum05 means that the fans caused the loss. People who grew up Suns fans believe that a team's losses stem from divine interventions responding to their fanbase's confidence, and transfer that belief to other teams we root for.

Also, Phoenix Suns fans relate to being down 3-2 in a series in terms of a game 6 exit, rather than how other teams have beaten the Suns in 7 when the Suns went up 3-2 (Sonics in 1979, Rockets twice in the 90s). Pulling through is something that only other teams do to the Suns.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:33 am

At least my Cubs win every 100 years or so....

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:09 pm

Gonna take a lot of team effort on defense and rebounding to try and win this now. Also, as great as booker played the last two games, the team cannot just get complacent and let him do his thing, he is going to need help.

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