The 2021-2022 Season Thread

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:46 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:11 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:14 am He is paid by ESPN and they don't have a contract with the PAC. He will always be lower. My reservation is we have not played the tough part of our conference schedule. After this week we will know more. Stanford is playing decent and has size so will be tougher. Road in conference is always hard that is why no team has ever gone undefeated in the PAC-10 or PAC-12.
Seth Davis?

He works for the athletic/CBS/Turner

Thanks for the correction. I was thinking Rece Davis.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:13 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:26 pm TJ McConnell needs to go on that list, even though he was a transfer.

His UA two teams were "4 NBA guys and TJ".

And he may've been the most valuable player on both of those teams.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:27 pm

prh wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:18 am FWIW, an Arizona fan on Reddit said he passed Kerr on campus and Kerr said concussion. That would add up to not sitting on the bench, but not so much for expecting him back no problem. Would love to know what it was

Tommy caught Kerr goofing around and slapped him too hard upside his head

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:37 pm

Kerr was fast breaking out of the cafeteria line, tried to pass forward a bran muffin, and ran headfirst into Ballo. Head trauma.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:46 pm

Can I add Solomon Hill?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:55 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:46 pm Can I add Solomon Hill?

I may be wrong, but I think Hill was the highest rated member of that class.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:17 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:55 pm
Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:46 pm Can I add Solomon Hill?
I may be wrong, but I think Hill was the highest rated member of that class.

I guess I’m think that I never thought he would stick in pros.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:55 pm

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:58 pm

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:22 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:58 pm

I'm still not convinced this was more than just a fever dream.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:00 pm

#1 in the Massey composite today.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Up to #3.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pm

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:57 pm

On the road… that seems like a lot

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:26 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:57 pm On the road… that seems like a lot

Yeah, and Stanford has played better lately. I’ll say Cats by 7.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:28 am

Expecting to win by double digits at Stanford would be a tough bet to take.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:49 am

Let's just get a W. I don't give 2 fucks about by how many on the road in league.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:29 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:57 pm On the road… that seems like a lot

Now it’s -11.5

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:37 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:37 pm Kerr was fast breaking out of the cafeteria line, tried to pass forward a bran muffin, and ran headfirst into Ballo. Head trauma.

10 minutes before the injury...

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:22 am

This game will be close. Stanford is big and can rebound. The only way this is a double digit win is if we press and they turn it over even more than usual.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:19 pm

MountainCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:37 am
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:37 pm Kerr was fast breaking out of the cafeteria line, tried to pass forward a bran muffin, and ran headfirst into Ballo. Head trauma.
10 minutes before the injury...

I've seen speculation from more than one source that Kriisas absence may have been due to his comments about the refs. I blew it off at first but then I realized that Coach Lloyd is the sort of fellow who would not have been amused at the stunt.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:10 pm

Adia might have been amused by it!

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:52 pm

TheCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:22 am This game will be close. Stanford is big and can rebound. The only way this is a double digit win is if we press and they turn it over even more than usual.

Whenever I think Beach has made the lamest prediction on the board, you say “hold my beer…”

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:57 pm

Don't forget that Stanford just beat USC...whoa

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:20 pm

#3 kenpom

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 pm

Buzzsaw

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:28 pm

and it doesnt seem to matter whos playing

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:30 pm

I can’t remember when I enjoyed watching Arizona basketball more.

Such a talented, unselfish, fun team to watch.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:43 pm

Honestly, even at full strength, you guys probably kick our asses right now. Double digits. I dont think you guys are quite at a finished project yet either.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:49 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:52 pm
TheCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:22 am This game will be close. Stanford is big and can rebound. The only way this is a double digit win is if we press and they turn it over even more than usual.
Whenever I think Beach has made the lamest prediction on the board, you say “hold my beer…”

Well olsondogg....I was surprised the game was so easy in the second half. You don't normally beat a team this bad after giving up 21 offensive boards (hence they are big and can rebound statement). Their TO's were terrible but no worse than usual for them. Our defense was really good most of the night which always makes me happy.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:50 pm

This is one of the best defensive team in Arizona history.

And nobody talks much about that fact.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:51 pm

I'm only going to say this once, and if asked to repeat it I will deny.

Choo, you were right.

I'm really starting to think that Lloyd was a major part of Gonzaga's evolution. I was skeptical at first because I felt that we were already in the right direction, and I thought that Lloyd's reputation was pure hype but you cannot deny the results on the court. I have never felt this way about our teams even when Lute was coaching.

We lost Koloko and Tubelis for most of the game and gave up an obscene amount of offensive rebounds and still won by 27. When I watch them play I don't get worried we have an early deficit, I just know that the team will adapt and overcome. Again, like a broken record, small sample size but this team is a cut above UCLA and USC.
If UCLA lost two impact players against a solid opponent, I don't think that they would recover.

That being said, I hope Lloyd remains focused. We still have a lot of questions marks with recruiting, and before the tournament comes, we need to clean up some things. This is only year one, and other coaches that succeeded greatly with another regime's players (Tubby and Ollie come to mind.) faded over time. I hope Lloyd is as aggressive as Fisch when it comes to revamping the program. But all things considered, I've been pleasantly surprised.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:53 pm

I mean y’all prayed for a Miller team (which was a monster on D when he has it rolling) to have this kind of ball movement with multiple weapons.

And you also have a lotto pick vying for PAC POY

This is a special team.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:55 pm

I mean their #4 in Adj D on Kenpom.

And nobody talks about that fuckin D.

11 opponents held under 40% shooting this year. Insane.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:15 am

Roxy did mention that average height is 6’7”, that is a lot of wingspan.
Larsson is probably the slowest non-post and he can still move.
The posts are quick, even Ballo seems to be getting better at court position.
When these guys are making shots they are relentless.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:11 am

Only thing I worry about this year is depth. Hopefully Tubelis injury is not significant. I really think we need to free our bench vs Cal if we want to have legs for the quick turn to UCLA

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:41 am

97cats wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:20 pm#3 kenpom

Heard the preseason bias comes out of kenpom around January 20.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:48 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:49 pm
Olsondogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:52 pm
TheCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:22 am This game will be close. Stanford is big and can rebound. The only way this is a double digit win is if we press and they turn it over even more than usual.
Whenever I think Beach has made the lamest prediction on the board, you say “hold my beer…”
Well olsondogg....I was surprised the game was so easy in the second half. You don't normally beat a team this bad after giving up 21 offensive boards (hence they are big and can rebound statement). Their TO's were terrible but no worse than usual for them. Our defense was really good most of the night which always makes me happy.

On ORB's, some of that is just they missed 49 shots and we missed 25. They had basically double the chances for offensive boards we did and that will trigger some disparity. It's why the overall rebounds were close despite those 21 offensive boards.

We're very good on D. I didn't get to watch as last night was another late start, but we had decent offensive metrics but D is just stellar. 17 to's and 30% shooting from an opponent will win lots of games.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:28 am

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:36 am

They'll find a way to fuck us.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:45 am

Following a bunch of the guys on twitter… I think everyone on the team posted something about Ballo last night after the game… they are all genuinely excited to see him shine

Love this team

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 am

Watching this team switch and close out on D is a thing of beauty. Even when a dude shakes the initial defender, they are not in the clear. Everyone is bought in. Just fun to watch

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:59 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 am Just fun to watch

It really is. Like someone posted above, this is the most fun watching the Cats than I have had in a long time.

Just can't figure out why Lloyd can't pull in any recruits while winning, yet Fisch excels at recruiting while losing.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:02 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:59 am
Olsondogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 am Just fun to watch
It really is. Like someone posted above, this is the most fun watching the Cats than I have had in a long time.

Just can't figure out why Lloyd can't pull in any recruits while winning, yet Fisch excels at recruiting while losing.

There isn't necessarily a correlation. Look at Penny Hardaway at Memphis. Pulls hugely talented recruits every year. Makes zero NCAA tournaments and massively disappoints with those same recruits every year.

Recruiting is its own thing.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:02 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:59 am
Olsondogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 am Just fun to watch
It really is. Like someone posted above, this is the most fun watching the Cats than I have had in a long time.

Just can't figure out why Lloyd can't pull in any recruits while winning, yet Fisch excels at recruiting while losing.

I honestly wouldn’t worry about Lloyd on the recruiting trail, and enjoy the product now. Recruits are pieces of a puzzle, not the solution.

Even the most ardent Miller fans love what they are seeing. It’s fun.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:07 am

I have to remember that when Miller first arrived he re-recruited Solomon hill and pulled DWill and a few others. He had some misses early on with Josh Shelby and Doron Lamb. But he did recruit some high level guys that didn’t happen to pan out (Josiah and Sidiki come to mind).

Long story short, let’s see what he pulls fo 2023.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am

I am getting a hard on over this team...even without viagra.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:59 am
Olsondogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 am Just fun to watch
It really is. Like someone posted above, this is the most fun watching the Cats than I have had in a long time.

Just can't figure out why Lloyd can't pull in any recruits while winning, yet Fisch excels at recruiting while losing.

The world we live in!

5 months ago 90% of us were saying "Who the Fuck is Tommy Lloyd?"

Now we are asking why we can't recruit?

I don't know shit about recruiting... but I think patience will be rewarded.

Not worried at all about Tommy attracting top talent

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:30 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am
Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:59 am
Olsondogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 am Just fun to watch
It really is. Like someone posted above, this is the most fun watching the Cats than I have had in a long time.

Just can't figure out why Lloyd can't pull in any recruits while winning, yet Fisch excels at recruiting while losing.
The world we live in!

5 months ago 90% of us were saying "Who the Fuck is Tommy Lloyd?"

Now we are asking why we can't recruit?

I don't know shit about recruiting... but I think patience will be rewarded.

Not worried at all about Tommy attracting top talent

You forgot: "We're going to lose him soon!"

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:38 am

Is it confirmed that there will be fans allowed at Pauley next week? Is it possible Cronin rolls into a fetal position and half the team suddenly gets Covid if fans are *not* allowed in?

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