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azgreg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:35 pm No Isaiah Mobley tonight.
Damn, that SUCKS! fUCLA.
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It's alright they're starting Jaquez for some reason who is now half man half machine and looks like he can barely jog
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Well Peterson had zero points against us and it now looks like he's got his touch back. Always was tough against us in previous games. Oregon next week will be playing for their tourney lives. Expect a war.
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KenPom projects AZ will go into postseason play with a 28-3 record.
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Olsondogg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am I think ucla hammers usc
I think I was wrong
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azgreg wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:21 am
Meanwhile Arizona didn’t just sweep on the road, they flat out embarrassed some fools.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Not only a sweep on the road, but a sweep of our in state rival that beat UCLA, and home wins against #3 and #17 (not anymore, but they were at the time)
We have gotten through our toughest starch with one loss, on the road. I'm impressed.

We struggled in a couple of those games, had injury stuff and shooting slumps and found ways to win.

Love this team.

Not sure how to refer to it, there's the Gordon year, the Stanley year, the ayton year.

Maybe I'll have to refer to it as the anomaly, like the agents referred to Neo in the matrix.
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97cats wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:32 pm KenPom projects AZ will go into postseason play with a 28-3 record.
If we do finish 28-3, how many Pac tourney wins would we need to lock up a #1? Guess it may be hard to say without knowing what other team are doing. Kentucky, Purdue, Baylor and Kansas all in the mix.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:12 pm
97cats wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:32 pm KenPom projects AZ will go into postseason play with a 28-3 record.
If we do finish 28-3, how many Pac tourney wins would we need to lock up a #1? Guess it may be hard to say without knowing what other team are doing. Kentucky, Purdue, Baylor and Kansas all in the mix.
I think Gonzaga, auburn, Arizona are pretty much locked as #1s as long as they don't lose like 2-3 games more. All 3 will get a pass in conference tournaments if they lose there like every other year.

Then it's between Kentucky, Purdue, Kansas for the last one.
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* Arizona 29-2 = top two overall tournament seed
* Arizona 28-3 = guaranteed #1 seed
* Arizona 27-4 = almost guaranteed #1 seed
* Arizona 26-5 = #2 seed (this option is very unlikely i dont see AZ losing three more times)
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Agree 97… I don’t see that a 3 seed is even possible after this week
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97cats wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:34 pm * Arizona 29-2 = top two overall tournament seed
* Arizona 28-3 = guaranteed #1 seed
* Arizona 27-4 = almost guaranteed #1 seed
* Arizona 26-5 = #2 seed (this option is very unlikely i dont see AZ losing three more times)
Awesome, 97. This makes a lot of sense.
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By the way, gonna be really interesting if Gonzaga loses a game.
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I don't worry about seeds. I worry about matchups. Their might be some bad matchups for us and we would definitely be a bad matchup for some teams. I don't want to play a team that feasts on TO's (Auburn).
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TheCat wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:33 am I don't worry about seeds. I worry about matchups. Their might be some bad matchups for us and we would definitely be a bad matchup for some teams. I don't want to play a team that feasts on TO's (Auburn).
Auburn wouldn’t be until the FF, and if we make it that far, we’re winning the whole f***in thing.
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TheCat wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:33 am I don't worry about seeds. I worry about matchups. Their might be some bad matchups for us and we would definitely be a bad matchup for some teams. I don't want to play a team that feasts on TO's (Auburn).
Auburn scares me. Kessler can block and can protect down low. Jabari should be #1 pick and looks like Durant, he'd pick apart Tubelis or Terry because he's either too fast or too big.

Turnovers like you said. Pair of small quick scoring guards
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AP #3
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97cats wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:14 amAP #3
But #1 in our hearts.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Still on the #1 line.

Keep it going...
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Not a ton of top 10 action vs ranked teams this week. Time to lose was this past week if you were ranked

Tuesday:
N°10 Villanova @ N°8 Providence
N°4 Kentucky @ N°12 Tennessee

Wednesday:
N°7 Baylor @ N°11 Texas Tech

Saturday:
N°25 Alabama @ N°4 Kentucky

During the halftime of this game Bama-UK game the NCAA selection committee will release their first top 16 rankings
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Rankings are now becoming valuable as Selection Sunday is now less than 4 weeks away

Those Tuesday games are interesting.

Go Nova and Tennessee
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EastCoastCat wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:40 am Still on the #1 line.

Keep it going...
Yeah, it's looking more likely that SEC could have two #1s, provided Auburn and UK avoid any bad losses.

Most likely #1 line, as of this morning, is Gonzaga, Auburn, AZ, Kentucky.
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Lunardi's latest bracket has in the south

1 Arizona

5 Ohio St
4 Tennessee

3 Illinois
2 Baylor
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:01 am Lunardi's latest bracket has in the south

1 Arizona

5 Ohio St
4 Tennessee

3 Illinois
2 Baylor
OSU, Illinois...ghosts of March Madness past.
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Let's slay them all
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Lunardi has duke being sent out to the west with the zags. I imagine because they're a weak 2 seed.

In fact Providence deserves Duke's 2 seed that they're only holding onto because of name recognition.
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Just a reminder to all of our amateur Joe Lunardi wannabes-

On Saturday before our game with Oregon we will know exactly where we sit in the eyes of the Selection Committee

RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:19 pm This is when they'll release the first top 16 NET rankings
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The Wildcats have more work to do. They came out slow as an unranked squad in week one. The Wildcats faithful don't like to hear the truth, but I told them "see you at Pauley" and sure enough, they lost to a UCLA team that itself wasn't even good enough to beat Arizona two weeks thereafter. I ask again: Who have they beaten? See you at the Galen Center!

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Like I said, if we win the national title, this guy will have us unranked in the final poll of the season. He'll rationalize it by saying we haven't beaten anybody.
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Someone once flattered Seth by telling him he was smart and interesting.

Our society has suffered ever since.
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Chicat wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:49 am Someone once flattered (insert name of patently unqualified, borderline incompetent sports commentator) by telling him he was smart and interesting.

Our society has suffered ever since.
Fixed it :)

I just mean that Davis is no different from SO many others on our TVs every weekend. In all sports.

But Davis is especially bad.
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I was looking at SI Bracketology I they had 3 PAC 12 teams in. One of them was in the bracket with Arizona. How screwed is that. As for Seth....we played UCLA at the end of a three game road trip and with a hobbled player. His "we will see you at Galen" will be the end of another three game road trip. Kentucky will not get past the next 4 games without a loss and if they do they will be very deserving of a 1 seed.
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I really think the top 8 are almost locked in:

Gonzaga (#1 Lock)

Auburn
Arizona
Kansas
Kentucky
Purdue
Baylor
Duke

It's now just figuring out the other 3 #1s
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TheCat wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:53 pm Kentucky will not get past the next 4 games without a loss and if they do they will be very deserving of a 1 seed.
That didn't take long. My prediction is Auburn and Kentucky will lose again. Lots of basketball remains. I predicted early on that AZ would have 4 losses. Still think that is probable. Rutgers will make the tourney.
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Alieberman wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:26 pm I really think the top 8 are almost locked in:

Gonzaga (#1 Lock)

Auburn
Arizona
Kansas
Kentucky
Purdue
Baylor
Duke

It's now just figuring out the other 3 #1s
The reg season SEC champ will be a #1 seed. It’ll most likely be Auburn.

After tonight, I’d say Kentucky needs to win out, including the SEC tourney to get a #1.

Reg season Big 12 champ is likely to get a #1 seed, especially if Kansas or Baylor doesn’t drop another game.

The fourth #1 is Arizona’s, as long as no bad losses occur. Losing @USC wouldn’t be a bad loss.
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thats called drivers seat for Arizona - hold serve and #1 seed is in the freezer headed to the mountain swing stress free let it fly ......dreamin
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A tall order, but hypothetically: If Arizona and Gonzaga both win out, Arizona overtakes Gonzaga as the top seed, no?

If not, why not, and since when?
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97cats wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:38 pm thats called drivers seat for Arizona - hold serve and #1 seed is in the freezer headed to the mountain swing stress free let it fly ......dreamin
Totally.

Winning vs Oregon is big then it's pretty much up to our last 3 game road trip.... Go 2-1 on the road and there is no doubt
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If Gonzaga loses another reg season game, the top overall seed is back on the table for other teams. Mainly AZ and Auburn.

But I really really don’t think they’ll lose again.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:08 am If Gonzaga loses another reg season game, the top overall seed is back on the table for other teams. Mainly AZ and Auburn.

But I really really don’t think they’ll lose again.
But that's reverse discrimination. It punishes strength of schedule. If Gonzaga, Arizona, and Auburn don't lose another game, it should be Auburn, Arizona, and Gonzaga in that order, though the committee wouldn't be wrong to put Arizona over Auburn if they find Arizona's margins of victory to comprise "the look of an overall #1 seed."
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Longhorned wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:13 am
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:08 am If Gonzaga loses another reg season game, the top overall seed is back on the table for other teams. Mainly AZ and Auburn.

But I really really don’t think they’ll lose again.
But that's reverse discrimination. It punishes strength of schedule. If Gonzaga, Arizona, and Auburn don't lose another game, it should be Auburn, Arizona, and Gonzaga in that order, though the committee wouldn't be wrong to put Arizona over Auburn if they find Arizona's margins of victory to comprise "the look of an overall #1 seed."
Gonzaga has been so good, for so long, and beaten so many blue bloods (including a shellacking of UCLA this year) that they’ve transcended the “mid-major” label and their strength of schedule and the strength of their conference no longer comes into play when talking about seeding in the tournament.
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Alieberman wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:50 am
97cats wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:38 pm thats called drivers seat for Arizona - hold serve and #1 seed is in the freezer headed to the mountain swing stress free let it fly ......dreamin
Totally.

Winning vs Oregon is big then it's pretty much up to our last 3 game road trip.... Go 2-1 on the road and there is no doubt
very interesting to see how everything has unfolded almost perfectly for Lloyd, even the challenges have unfolded perfectly.

i agree with what you posted above, incapsulates my opinion as of this morning. my thought is starting to drift to the real possibility now that AZ could go undefeated the rest of the way.............then i continue to drift further and think AZ could actually run the table and win it all.

then i realize, 35-2.......um, part of me doesnt want to think of the consequences of such a glorious and incredibly amazing outcome, so i drift back to a realer option.

28-3 to end the season and a #1 seed South Region

im gonna stay right there ......
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97cats wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:04 am
Alieberman wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:50 am
97cats wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:38 pm thats called drivers seat for Arizona - hold serve and #1 seed is in the freezer headed to the mountain swing stress free let it fly ......dreamin
Totally.

Winning vs Oregon is big then it's pretty much up to our last 3 game road trip.... Go 2-1 on the road and there is no doubt
very interesting to see how everything has unfolded almost perfectly for Lloyd, even the challenges have unfolded perfectly.

i agree with what you posted above, incapsulates my opinion as of this morning. my thought is starting to drift to the real possibility now that AZ could go undefeated the rest of the way.............then i continue to drift further and think AZ could actually run the table and win it all.

then i realize, 35-2.......um, part of me doesnt want to think of the consequences of such a glorious and incredibly amazing outcome, so i drift back to a realer option.

28-3 to end the season and a #1 seed South Region

im gonna stay right there ......
That's the right place to reside. As Cat fans we always overshoot to the up and down side. We're a jumpy Vix index.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:21 am
97cats wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:04 am
Alieberman wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:50 am
97cats wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:38 pm thats called drivers seat for Arizona - hold serve and #1 seed is in the freezer headed to the mountain swing stress free let it fly ......dreamin
Totally.

Winning vs Oregon is big then it's pretty much up to our last 3 game road trip.... Go 2-1 on the road and there is no doubt
very interesting to see how everything has unfolded almost perfectly for Lloyd, even the challenges have unfolded perfectly.

i agree with what you posted above, incapsulates my opinion as of this morning. my thought is starting to drift to the real possibility now that AZ could go undefeated the rest of the way.............then i continue to drift further and think AZ could actually run the table and win it all.

then i realize, 35-2.......um, part of me doesnt want to think of the consequences of such a glorious and incredibly amazing outcome, so i drift back to a realer option.

28-3 to end the season and a #1 seed South Region

im gonna stay right there ......
That's the right place to reside. As Cat fans we always overshoot to the up and down side. We're a jumpy Vix index.
I try not to drift too much into that thinking though it's hard not to. It's an old and stupid adage but I just look at one game at a time.
Plus, if we have 1 or 2 more losses I place them before the last game of the year.

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OT, but speaking of volatility in following basketball, I'd like to see the vitals of a coach in a game like UofA vs Tenn. as opposed to that of a fan in the stands. A heart rate and BP readout during an intense game would make for a good sports article.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:56 am OT, but speaking of volatility in following basketball, I'd like to see the vitals of a coach in a game like UofA vs Tenn. as opposed to that of a fan in the stands. A heart rate and BP readout during an intense game would make for a good sports article.
Sean Miller’s EKG would look like a Rorschach Test.
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Chicat wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:47 am
Longhorned wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:13 am
Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:08 am If Gonzaga loses another reg season game, the top overall seed is back on the table for other teams. Mainly AZ and Auburn.

But I really really don’t think they’ll lose again.
But that's reverse discrimination. It punishes strength of schedule. If Gonzaga, Arizona, and Auburn don't lose another game, it should be Auburn, Arizona, and Gonzaga in that order, though the committee wouldn't be wrong to put Arizona over Auburn if they find Arizona's margins of victory to comprise "the look of an overall #1 seed."
Gonzaga has been so good, for so long, and beaten so many blue bloods (including a shellacking of UCLA this year) that they’ve transcended the “mid-major” label and their strength of schedule and the strength of their conference no longer comes into play when talking about seeding in the tournament.
That's fair. And I agree with subjective decisions on the part of the committee. But it is what it is: the opposite of the bias that used to hinder Gonzaga. Now, it's a hurdle for somebody in the SEC to clear, and a pass for Gonzaga.

Gonzaga plays at St. Mary's and San Francisco. Auburn plays at Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, and Arkansas.
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I think the zags are clearly the best team in basketball this year.
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