Well lets not give media members prognostics any credibility. They did pick us tied for fourth with Oregon State. I heard an interview before the season and you know who said he thought Ariz would be real good....Mic Cronin.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm I can’t fathom how Tommy is not coach of the year at this point. When he wins the pac and gets a one seed it should be unanimous.
If he goes undefeated to end the regular season, and if Arizona enters the tourney with 2 losses, they should draw plans for a second statue outside of McKale.
There isn’t a single media member who thought this could have been done year 1. Not a single person.
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so ive grappled with this and mentioned it a few times several weeks ago (saying if he does it he really can walk on water) thinking it wasnt even a remote possibility of winning out but now, as the season has worn on, it is plausible and not that far fetched at all to think Tommy 'Genius Boy' Lloyd could win out the next eleven games, capturing Arizona's second National Championship with a 37-2 record.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm I can’t fathom how Tommy is not coach of the year at this point. When he wins the pac and gets a one seed it should be unanimous.
If he goes undefeated to end the regular season, and if Arizona enters the tourney with 2 losses, they should draw plans for a second statue outside of McKale.
There isn’t a single media member who thought this could have been done year 1. Not a single person.
if he does, i hate to say it, but the NBA and its dump-trucks of money will start backing up filled with riches beyond his wildest dreams.
EDIT : 37-2 i left out conf tournament - 5 regular season games, 2 conf tournament, 6 NCAA Tournament games = 13 games left
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97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:42 pmso ive grappled with this and mentioned it a few times several weeks ago (saying if he does it he really can walk on water) thinking it wasnt even a remote possibility of winning out but now, as the season has worn on, it is plausible and not that far fetched at all to think Tommy 'Genius Boy' Lloyd could win out the next eleven games, capturing Arizona's second National Championship with a 35-2 record.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm I can’t fathom how Tommy is not coach of the year at this point. When he wins the pac and gets a one seed it should be unanimous.
If he goes undefeated to end the regular season, and if Arizona enters the tourney with 2 losses, they should draw plans for a second statue outside of McKale.
There isn’t a single media member who thought this could have been done year 1. Not a single person.
if he does, i hate to say it, but the NBA and its dump-trucks of money will start backing up filled with riches beyond his wildest dreams.
Don't worry, the UofA President will get involved!
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Currently have won 8 in a row so that would 18 in a row.97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:42 pmso ive grappled with this and mentioned it a few times several weeks ago (saying if he does it he really can walk on water) thinking it wasnt even a remote possibility of winning out but now, as the season has worn on, it is plausible and not that far fetched at all to think Tommy 'Genius Boy' Lloyd could win out the next eleven games, capturing Arizona's second National Championship with a 35-2 record.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm I can’t fathom how Tommy is not coach of the year at this point. When he wins the pac and gets a one seed it should be unanimous.
If he goes undefeated to end the regular season, and if Arizona enters the tourney with 2 losses, they should draw plans for a second statue outside of McKale.
There isn’t a single media member who thought this could have been done year 1. Not a single person.
if he does, i hate to say it, but the NBA and its dump-trucks of money will start backing up filled with riches beyond his wildest dreams.
I don't see it happening. We need to lose in the conference tournament!
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yes i know and its why i have thought its preposterous you are so right...but it would be 37-2 WTFRondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:57 pmCurrently have won 8 in a row so that would 18 in a row.97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:42 pmso ive grappled with this and mentioned it a few times several weeks ago (saying if he does it he really can walk on water) thinking it wasnt even a remote possibility of winning out but now, as the season has worn on, it is plausible and not that far fetched at all to think Tommy 'Genius Boy' Lloyd could win out the next eleven games, capturing Arizona's second National Championship with a 35-2 record.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm I can’t fathom how Tommy is not coach of the year at this point. When he wins the pac and gets a one seed it should be unanimous.
If he goes undefeated to end the regular season, and if Arizona enters the tourney with 2 losses, they should draw plans for a second statue outside of McKale.
There isn’t a single media member who thought this could have been done year 1. Not a single person.
if he does, i hate to say it, but the NBA and its dump-trucks of money will start backing up filled with riches beyond his wildest dreams.
I don't see it happening. We need to lose in the conference tournament!
and 21 games in a row to win it all
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Guys...I love, love this team. We are not winning out. I expect one more reg season loss, and a loss in the Pac tourney wouldn't surprise me. That leaves us with only 4 losses heading into Selection Sunday and a strong likelihood of being a #1 seed. That's what I'm keeping an eye on.
If we drop one this week, the reactions are going to be annoying af.
If we drop one this week, the reactions are going to be annoying af.
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Are you concerned we haven't had a BAD loss yet? A bad loss meaning like losing to a team like Stanford or Washington, a game where just nothing goes right. Pretty much every top team except for Gonzaga has had them and gotten them out of the way.
On one hand this should give us confidence that this team is different and won't lose a bad game. On the other though, it could be coming eventually and it could happen in the tournament in an upset.
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I brought this up with my buddy from Spokane and he laughed it off and said Tommy is not going anywhere. He left a dream job for another, how much better could life be for a small town dude. He had one job outside of Spokane that he’d consider, and he got it in April.97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:42 pmso ive grappled with this and mentioned it a few times several weeks ago (saying if he does it he really can walk on water) thinking it wasnt even a remote possibility of winning out but now, as the season has worn on, it is plausible and not that far fetched at all to think Tommy 'Genius Boy' Lloyd could win out the next eleven games, capturing Arizona's second National Championship with a 37-2 record.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm I can’t fathom how Tommy is not coach of the year at this point. When he wins the pac and gets a one seed it should be unanimous.
If he goes undefeated to end the regular season, and if Arizona enters the tourney with 2 losses, they should draw plans for a second statue outside of McKale.
There isn’t a single media member who thought this could have been done year 1. Not a single person.
if he does, i hate to say it, but the NBA and its dump-trucks of money will start backing up filled with riches beyond his wildest dreams.
EDIT : 37-2 i left out conf tournament - 5 regular season games, 2 conf tournament, 6 NCAA Tournament games = 13 games left
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Nothing went right at ucla. I know that’s not what you mean, but that was an awful game.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:34 pmAre you concerned we haven't had a BAD loss yet? A bad loss meaning like losing to a team like Stanford or Washington, a game where just nothing goes right. Pretty much every top team except for Gonzaga has had them and gotten them out of the way.
On one hand this should give us confidence that this team is different and won't lose a bad game. On the other though, it could be coming eventually and it could happen in the tournament in an upset.
I fly like a hawk, or better yet an eagle--a seagull. I sniff suckers out like a beagle...My ego is off and running and gone, Cause I'm about the best and if you diss than that's wrong
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Bilas alluded to Koloko being much happier this year and now Kier in today's presser said Benn's having much more fun and actually smiling this year. Hate to see Miller thrown under the bus but they aren't wrong that Lloyd is the happy go lucky leader that has changed it all
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Winning, and not having your postseason cancelled has a weird effect of making happiness.Jefe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:52 pm Bilas alluded to Koloko being much happier this year and now Kier in today's presser said Benn's having much more fun and actually smiling this year. Hate to see Miller thrown under the bus but they aren't wrong that Lloyd is the happy go lucky leader that has changed it all
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There is no doubt this is Tommy's culture and brand.
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This is true but on the court this team is Kerr Kriisa personified.
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he sure did - said that Koloko was responding to "love" and "encouragement" not being "yelled at" all the time has made a world of difference and hes playing better because of it.Jefe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:52 pm Bilas alluded to Koloko being much happier this year and now Kier in today's presser said Benn's having much more fun and actually smiling this year. Hate to see Miller thrown under the bus but they aren't wrong that Lloyd is the happy go lucky leader that has changed it all
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well Kriisa seems up and down to me high and low range of emotions and aloofness sometimes - i dont see this AZ team in that way.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:02 pmThis is true but on the court this team is Kerr Kriisa personified.
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As Odogg alluded, Tommy is straightforward and uncomplicated. As someone who has lived in the Spokane world for a number of years I can say that it does not breed dissembling personas. We as fans may not have witnessed all that Tommy is, but he is not going to turn out other than how he represents himself. If he says that this is his dream job then he plans to die here as head coach.
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good stuff and im not saying he takes it, but rather people will come a callin. and like Rondae, i dont think it would be such a bad thing for AZ to drop one in the conf tournament here coming up in vegas.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:39 pm I brought this up with my buddy from Spokane and he laughed it off and said Tommy is not going anywhere. He left a dream job for another, how much better could life be for a small town dude. He had one job outside of Spokane that he’d consider, and he got it in April.
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i dont know my man part of me wants a toe stub in the conf tournament and part of me wants Tommy to do what no other first year coach has ever done in terms of winning percentage.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:34 pmAre you concerned we haven't had a BAD loss yet? A bad loss meaning like losing to a team like Stanford or Washington, a game where just nothing goes right. Pretty much every top team except for Gonzaga has had them and gotten them out of the way.
On one hand this should give us confidence that this team is different and won't lose a bad game. On the other though, it could be coming eventually and it could happen in the tournament in an upset.
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Tommy's culture allows Kerr to be Kerr...RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:02 pmThis is true but on the court this team is Kerr Kriisa personified.
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Take me off the "lose one now... it will do us good" list97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:10 pmi dont know my man part of me wants a toe stub in the conf tournament and part of me wants Tommy to do what no other first year coach has ever done in terms of winning percentage.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:34 pmAre you concerned we haven't had a BAD loss yet? A bad loss meaning like losing to a team like Stanford or Washington, a game where just nothing goes right. Pretty much every top team except for Gonzaga has had them and gotten them out of the way.
On one hand this should give us confidence that this team is different and won't lose a bad game. On the other though, it could be coming eventually and it could happen in the tournament in an upset.
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Let's fucking do this
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37-2 has a nice ring to it doesnt it, Ari
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I mean the swagger and showmanship and in your face theatrics etc, the team oozes Kerr all the way.97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:06 pmwell Kriisa seems up and down to me high and low range of emotions and aloofness sometimes - i dont see this AZ team in that way.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:02 pmThis is true but on the court this team is Kerr Kriisa personified.
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agree they do have some of that flavaRondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:17 pm I mean the swagger and showmanship and in your face theatrics etc, the team oozes Kerr all the way.
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Making #38 our second national championship!!!
BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!!!
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I just don’t think this team plans to lose anytime, anywhere. They don’t get rattled, they trust their teammates and coaches, they are genuinely happy to see their teammates do well and they are all fiercely competitive (in their own way) and hate to lose.
Plus, and this might sound sappy, they all love each other.
It’s hard not to be dangerously euphoric about what this team might accomplish.
Plus, and this might sound sappy, they all love each other.
It’s hard not to be dangerously euphoric about what this team might accomplish.
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Their are teams that can beat us but we wont beat ourselves and they will know they have been in a fight if they do win. My fear is some team just going off the hook in scoring and especially in shooting 3's. There are a few teams that can do that. I dare say that Wisc is one.
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I am the of the opposite feeling. This team can beat itself with the dreaded combination turnovers and missed FTS. That is my biggest fear with this team.TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:36 pm Their are teams that can beat us but we wont beat ourselves and they will know they have been in a fight if they do win. My fear is some team just going off the hook in scoring and especially in shooting 3's. There are a few teams that can do that. I dare say that Wisc is one.
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Yes the hard work is just enjoying the Cats for what they are rignt howEastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:46 pm
It’s hard not to be dangerously euphoric about what this team might accomplish.
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but in that they are so much more than we (at least i) anticipated right now.Lute4God wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:46 pmYes the hard work is just enjoying the Cats for what they are rignt howEastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:46 pm
It’s hard not to be dangerously euphoric about what this team might accomplish.
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Going back to last spring, I always thought we'd be top 2 by late February and that there would be a Freedom Convoy in Canada.
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does AZ have a possible 13 or 14 games left? help me here...
five reg season left, two conf tourney(if necessary), six NCAA = 13?
37total possible with a win out?
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well thank god your premonition was right on bothLonghorned wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:23 pm Going back to last spring, I always thought we'd be top 2 by late February and that there would be a Freedom Convoy in Canada.
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I don’t see Tommy as a NBA guy honestly. He’s definitely more of the guy that likes to teach kids how to play and enjoy the game. His approach to recruiting is also infinitely more garnered for a guy who is in it for the long haul with young players. Now that could change in another 10 years or so, but as of today I couldn’t see him leaving the college game.
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Meh, it'll be almost all half court games and Arizona is top 6 in 2pt% on offense and defense. Plus half court games usually have less possessions = less turnoversFrybry02 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:01 pmI am the of the opposite feeling. This team can beat itself with the dreaded combination turnovers and missed FTS. That is my biggest fear with this team.TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:36 pm Their are teams that can beat us but we wont beat ourselves and they will know they have been in a fight if they do win. My fear is some team just going off the hook in scoring and especially in shooting 3's. There are a few teams that can do that. I dare say that Wisc is one.
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im not sure it matters - its when the NBA sees you as an NBA guy that it all changes and all the sudden you become an NBA guyChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:32 pm I don’t see Tommy as a NBA guy honestly. He’s definitely more of the guy that likes to teach kids how to play and enjoy the game. His approach to recruiting is also infinitely more garnered for a guy who is in it for the long haul with young players. Now that could change in another 10 years or so, but as of today I couldn’t see him leaving the college game.
dude is a genius, Choo
its fucking crazy
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I’m with you brother, but why hasn’t Mark Few left for the NBA? I’m sure teams have been very interested, but he’s never had the inclination to move because he’s not the NBA type. I view Tommy in the same vein. Like I said though I reserve my right to change this stance in 10 years or so! Lol97cats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:56 pmim not sure it matters - its when the NBA sees you as an NBA guy that it all changes and all the sudden you become an NBA guyChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:32 pm I don’t see Tommy as a NBA guy honestly. He’s definitely more of the guy that likes to teach kids how to play and enjoy the game. His approach to recruiting is also infinitely more garnered for a guy who is in it for the long haul with young players. Now that could change in another 10 years or so, but as of today I couldn’t see him leaving the college game.
dude is a genius, Choo
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Few not a genius -ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:12 pm I’m with you brother, but why hasn’t Mark Few left for the NBA?
this only applies if he wins them all, just want to make sure we all remember that
but yes, Lloyd is a basketball savant
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At Gonzaga, Few is a king, in the NBA, Few is just another guy with a DUI.
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Honestly, my ultimate hope is that Arizona ends the college basketball post-season with a minimum of a 6-game winning streak - the final W/L totals are irrelevant, for me, beyond that!!!
Just like '97!!
BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!!!!
Just like '97!!
BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!!!!
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Ed Cooley is going to win national coach of the year if they keep pulling Ws out of their asses
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He can have coach of the year. Tommy wants a natty.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:32 am Ed Cooley is going to win national coach of the year if they keep pulling Ws out of their asses
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They may pair us up in the tourney and let that decide.
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They were only paired when Providence was slotted as a #4 seed but it's hard to see how they're not in contention for a #2 seed or #3 seed at worst.
They got a couple game lead on Villanova, and control their own destiny.
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Providence was #15 (closer to a 5 seed than a 3 seed) in the Committee reveal. They need some help to move upRondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:17 amThey were only paired when Providence was slotted as a #4 seed but it's hard to see how they're not in contention for a #2 seed or #3 seed at worst.
They got a couple game lead on Villanova, and control their own destiny.
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Most experienced tournament team in the country - not sure Cooley should get the credit he's getting here.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:32 am Ed Cooley is going to win national coach of the year if they keep pulling Ws out of their asses
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If providence were to play us in the tourney and let us stay in the game like they have been everyone else, they have a prayer.
Our spurtability is second to none.
Our spurtability is second to none.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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