2022-23 non PAC-12 games

Macho Grande · Post by **Macho Grande** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:14 pm

Greg Byrne: "We found out yesterday, and even some new stuff today"

Nate Oats: "We knew"

These two better get their stories straight about what they knew and when they knew it.

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:58 pm

That statement by Oats was a heaping pile of bullshit.

“Wrong place, wrong time” would be if Miller happened to be in the car with the killer before the shooting. Providing the murder weapon is a whole other league from just being in the guy’s vicinity.

IMO, Oats should be fired and Miller should be expelled. But then again I don’t run an athletic department that brings in $35M in revenue yearly like Greg Byrne does.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:24 pm

Yeah, the whole “he didn’t know the gun was in the car,” goes away when he asks for his gun back in a text.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:26 pm

Outside of the legal ramifications, and just sticking to MBB, this is a huge distraction to the program and gives plenty of ammo* to the opposing fans.

*- see what I did there?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:31 pm

Bad loss for Virginia to KenPom #169 Boston College

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:39 pm

Macho Grande wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:14 pm Greg Byrne: "We found out yesterday, and even some new stuff today"

Nate Oats: "We knew"

These two better get their stories straight about what they knew and when they knew it.

Maybe Oats knew but did not tell Byrne......that would be interesting. We will soon see what matters at Alabama. Texas fired their coach for domestic violence. We will see how the real south deals with a murder.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:42 pm

Umm… if Oats knew but did not alert his AD… that would be very bad

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:34 pm

Why isn't ESPN calling for Oats to be fired? Guilty until proven innocent!

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:46 pm

If the Gamecocks pull off an upset tonight it may spark more discussion.

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19 pm

Apparently Brandon Miller has no conscience.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:21 pm

Alabama going to OT with a shitty 3 SEC win S Carolina team

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:23 pm

Yeah, I was hoping to be able to post: Drop and Roll Tide

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:43 pm

CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19 pm Apparently Brandon Miller has no conscience.

Apparently the rest of the team does, miller was the only one that did anything.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:44 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:42 pm Umm… if Oats knew but did not alert his AD… that would be very bad

Apparently, Oates got a big extension after the incident.

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:49 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:43 pm
CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19 pm Apparently Brandon Miller has no conscience.
Apparently the rest of the team does, miller was the only one that did anything.

41 points but only 1 assist.

At least though when he assisted someone this time, no one ended up dead.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:35 am

I'm not sure you hold Oats responsible but the kid should be suspended the rest of the year or until cleared.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:40 am

Miller the Killer.

The other fans in the SEC should be having fun with that.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:57 am

Yeah... If you willingly supply a gun to someone... and that person murders someone with that gun..... how do you face no responsibility?

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:07 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:57 am Yeah... If you willingly supply a gun to someone... and that person murders someone with that gun..... how do you face no responsibility?

Unless the story you’re told is something along the lines of wanting to take it to a gun range to try it out to see if it’s a type/style they might want to purchase themselves.

Can’t think of too many other scenarios where someone would ask me to borrow my gun and I just hand it over no questions.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:56 am

Seems like it's taken a full 24/7 media cycle for this story to start taking off, and I'm glad it is. I'm glad to see it rightfully taking over this thread. With the condemning text messages released it's amazing a head coach, ad, and university pres are perfectly fine trotting Miller out.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:11 am

Ice!

Not sure I buy his story about having a legal gun in the back seat under some clothes, and not realizing his friend took it.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:51 am

They should get rid of Sean...errr....Brandon Miller right away.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:04 pm

It isn't against school policy to have a gun concealed in your car on campus or to give a gun to someone else? Nothing will happen to Miller. Alabama is driven only by results.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:31 am

MSU with the choke.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:06 am

Oh my

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:48 pm

Best buzzer beater of the week, Tommy's son Liam! Tommy was in attendance too!

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:08 pm

Too bad NAU lost in ot

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:44 pm

Can we get Liam from the portal? Could use some of that shooting, he did that in another game this year too.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:02 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/espns-ja ... oting-link

Looks like good old Jay has turned over a new leaf and is giving coaches and admins the benefit of the doubt these days.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:19 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:02 pm https://www.foxnews.com/sports/espns-ja ... oting-link

Looks like good old Jay has turned over a new leaf and is giving coaches and admins the benefit of the doubt these days.

IMNSHO, Miller’s attorney is likely pursuing Alabama’s interests as much as his client’s.

The frisking mime during introductions reveals, again IMNSHO, a narcissism in Miller that we’ve too often seen in pampered athletes.

I’m confident that if Miller were a benchwarmer, he’d have been disappeared faster than a gay son from a MAGA rally

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:55 am

I agree with your points, BM is gone if he's not who he is, and the only reason his buddy is around also is because they can't punish him and not BM.

But my comment is not about BM it's about Jay, who had pitch forks and torches out ready to get Dr. FranknenSean and his monster Aytonstein at an unsubstantiated secret source that one of his cronies had contacted about the possibility some payment, while we have 3 athletes involved in a murder and grand jury testimony that the 2 who were not arrested brought the murder weapon to the scene.

If he is such a changed man, he should probably apologize to Sean, otherwise it just looks like ESPN and all of their commentators and "journalists" are just shills for Bama, the SEC, ACC...

Ps, I'm not sure that I am a good enough mental gymnast to make myself think that, if this was one of our players, that it would be appropriate for him to be playing.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:26 am

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:57 pm

Auburn trying to give this game and their tournament hopes over to Bama. Smh

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:34 pm

Forgive me: C'mon Wiscy.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:12 pm

OK then. Now I gotta repent.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:00 pm

I really enjoy watching the mid major tournaments. The intensity the whole thing has with only one team making NCAA Tournament is really interesting.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:51 am

OSUCat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:00 pm I really enjoy watching the mid major tournaments. The intensity the whole thing has with only one team making NCAA Tournament is really interesting.

WHile the intensity is good to watch, the reason is, IMNSHO, despicable.

These conferences typically only get a single bid, and a team whose entire season resulted in the league championship is eliminated if they don't win a multi-day tournament. I think that's grossly unfair, and totally devalues the regular season.

IMNSHO, if the regular season champ is defeated they should still go!! And, if the NCAA wants to still give a bid to the tournament champ, let the major conferences lose one of their middle-of-the-pac teams!!! For the major conferences, if a non-bid team wins the conference tourney, they should replace another team from their own conference.

How would Pac-12 womens' fan cheer for Wazzu replacing UCLA, USC or Arizona???

That would spread around the intensity, eh???

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:03 pm

Rodney Terry, coach of the year!!

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:21 pm

Typical ESPN and Lunardi. Texas beats Kansas by 20 and this is the second time in a week. Lunardi asked who is number 1 seed is after that and he says Kansas. If that conference is so tough then why not Texas? Texas was without one of their best players Timmy Allen. Texas losing their coach mid-year was not an obstacle? Big sports providers are going to ruin this game because they have a financial incentive to shade things that will reward them financially. That is the real reason the PAC is screwed.

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm

Lunardi is not actually good at his job.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:34 pm

Kansas also lost 3 straight earlier in the year. Guess Self being out is the excuse they will use.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:07 pm

CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm Lunardi is not actually good at his job.

joe lunardi needs to go back into his cave. please.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:31 pm

TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:21 pm Typical ESPN and Lunardi. Texas beats Kansas by 20 and this is the second time in a week. Lunardi asked who is number 1 seed is after that and he says Kansas. If that conference is so tough then why not Texas? Texas was without one of their best players Timmy Allen. Texas losing their coach mid-year was not an obstacle? Big sports providers are going to ruin this game because they have a financial incentive to shade things that will reward them financially. That is the real reason the PAC is screwed.

So another fn example. During the Duke - Virginia game Holly Rowe just said that Duke's coach Jon S. just had the best year for a first time coach she has seen in 35 years. WTF. Did he win the conference and get a number 1 seed that I don't know about? He did probably have the best recruiting class in the nation and can't win his league in a down year? I just hate those folks. Maybe she should just look who has the best record of all time in their first two years.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:03 am

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:21 pm

Memphis up 15 on Houston at halftime. No Sasser.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:00 pm

don't blow it, memphis.
let's go, penn state.
fu, a&m.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:01 pm

Fucking Houston. Fucking Memphis.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:42 pm

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:21 pm Memphis up 15 on Houston at halftime. No Sasser.

All the cynicism I've spouted about college programs going gaga for hiring blast-from-the-past NBA faces - Patrick Ewing, Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse - and wouldn't you know, Anfernee Hardaway has Memphis consistently improving year by year. Last year getting the Tigers into the Tournament for the first time and advancing to the Second Round, now in his fifth season Anfernee wins the conference tournament with a 26-8 record, beating #1 Houston in the final, and now Memphis waits for a higher tournament seed.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:45 pm

When Houston pulled within 5 in the 2h I thought it was all over. Whew!

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:05 pm

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