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I feel the ABOR will do all it can to protect Tempe Normal.
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EastCoastCat wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:55 pm Please…to God and whatever Devil Dove worships…don’t let Arizona fuck this up.
Clearly, the devil is more of a sports fan than the other gal.
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Anyone else getting this? My link isn’t working
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arizonawildcats wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:48 pm
Not this secret meeting garbage again

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Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:32 pm I feel the ABOR will do all it can to protect Tempe Normal.
Michael Crow runs the ABOR through Larry Penley.

On espn, ya’ll know they are in panic mode over there with layoffs and potential divestment from Disney, right? Internally, they know shifting to streaming is the only way they as a network will have any stability. They won’t be the same network in three years.
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I'm really hoping that the result of the ABOR meeting is "Go ahead and go, but see if you can take your little brother with you."
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I hope arizona comes in with “we are leaving, asu get on board or get left out”
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GlobalCat wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:18 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:32 pm I feel the ABOR will do all it can to protect Tempe Normal.
Michael Crow runs the ABOR through Larry Penley.

On espn, ya’ll know they are in panic mode over there with layoffs and potential divestment from Disney, right? Internally, they know shifting to streaming is the only way they as a network will have any stability. They won’t be the same network in three years.
They plan to have their own streaming service, Not sure if they will stay on CATV and aggregate streaming services. I'm guessing it will cost at least $20/month.
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azgreg wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:17 pm
Average TV viewers for each remaining PAC-9 team is like 1.2M so good luck with all of that.
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CardiacCats97 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:43 pm
azgreg wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:17 pm
Average TV viewers for each remaining PAC-9 team is like 1.2M so good luck with all of that.
And how many are avid enough fans to subscribe? Maybe 200k?
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Aaron doesn't think the Big 12 is all that interested in ASU :lol:

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Fine with me. No reason they should go. We can always schedule them non-con to give them a proper beatdown.
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Robbins gonna fuck this up, isn’t he…

He’s such a a simp for crow and the pac12
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I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
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BBQ wildcat wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:50 pm
CardiacCats97 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:43 pm
azgreg wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:17 pm
Average TV viewers for each remaining PAC-9 team is like 1.2M so good luck with all of that.
And how many are avid enough fans to subscribe? Maybe 200k?
I consider myself a diehard and I’m legitimately on the fence about subscribing to Apple PAC-9+.

Meanwhile I already get ESPN as part of my Disney package.
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Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
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IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:08 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
Math is hard for some people.
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IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:08 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
It is giving information. You gotta get espn+ and stream to watch many UA games if UA moved to the Big 12. Lots of important information about the Big 12 gets ignored by many people here and in the "media"
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Nobody is ignoring it. You just like to pretend you are the only one looking at the big picture. It’s boring.
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We don’t ignore the key points like the PAC is a sinking ship with no future and the Big 12 is saving our ass from being relegated to a conference wasteland.
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CardiacCats97 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:16 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:08 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
Math is hard for some people.
Yes, its really hard for two posters in particular.

I'm waiting for the other one to show up and make the case that we should stay in the MountainPACWest Conference because there is a 0.00002% chance we might get invited to join the SEC in 2150.
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I would get the Apple sports app to watch the cats no matter the price but this move is not about that.

It’s about more money over the next 5-8 years. A considerable amount more.

It’s about joining the premier basketball conference and being highlighted in big games that the nation can watch weekly.

It’s about a growing football program that right now would have the second best recruiting class in the conference and might contend very quickly for a championship.

It’s about not playing until the stroke of midnight every freaking game it seems.

It’s about passionate fan bases and schools that care for athletics.

It’s about leadership that is effective and forward thinking

It really is a no brainer decision really
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:19 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:08 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
It is giving information. You gotta get espn+ and stream to watch many UA games if UA moved to the Big 12. Lots of important information about the Big 12 gets ignored by many people here and in the "media"
It is giving information. You gotta get Apple+, and another
subscription package add-on and stream to watch every single UA games if UA stayed in the PAC 12. Lots of information about the Pac 12 gets ignored by machina here and in the "media"
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dmjcat wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:40 pm
CardiacCats97 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:16 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:08 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
Postmaster wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
Math is hard for some people.
Yes, its really hard for two posters in particular.

I'm waiting for the other one to show up and make the case that we should stay in the MountainPACWest Conference because there is a 0.00002% chance we might get invited to join the SEC in 2150.
Is that other poster Robbins?
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azcat49 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:43 pm I would get the Apple sports app to watch the cats no matter the price but this move is not about that.

It’s about more money over the next 5-8 years. A considerable amount more.

It’s about joining the premier basketball conference and being highlighted in big games that the nation can watch weekly.

It’s about a growing football program that right now would have the second best recruiting class in the conference and might contend very quickly for a championship.

It’s about not playing until the stroke of midnight every freaking game it seems.

It’s about passionate fan bases and schools that care for athletics.

It’s about leadership that is effective and forward thinking

It really is a no brainer decision really
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Speaking of numbers being hard for some people: This is a tweet from June 9th
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More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12

Just making sure everyone is aware of that
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12

Just making sure everyone is aware of that
The UA will make a lot more money and actually have some exposure on a national network!!!

Just making sure PHXCATS is aware of that :lol:
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dmjcat wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:27 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12

Just making sure everyone is aware of that
The UA will make a lot more money and actually have some exposure on a national network!!!

Just making sure PHXCATS is aware of that :lol:
Did I claim otherwise?

49 mentioned better start times
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So what happened at the ABOR meeting?
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12

Just making sure everyone is aware of that
This is such a weird retort because the majority of the complaints of low home attendance for years have been late start times.

We always had late home games after 7 unless we were playing USC or an Oregon and we were somehow decently good

We'll get better start times if we're decently good and facing a good team and get 5-6 start times (or midday), although count it more for basketball unless football catches up
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dmjcat wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:25 pm Speaking of numbers being hard for some people: This is a tweet from June 9th
I think he meant more than $12.
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Even CNBC’s investment shows are opining on Apple’s potential streaming deal with the Pac 12 this morning, asking “doesn’t Apple have bigger priorities right now?”
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Do we hear anything today or did the deadline pass?
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Incompetent leadership
. Always gatekeeping and thinking about the long term and they get their comeuppance Staying any longer with this leadership is going to continue to hurt us in the long term
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I don't like this narrative we only go if we take ASSU and Utah with us.

Look out for #1 should be our only mindset right now.
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EastCoastCat wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:59 am I don't like this narrative we only go if we take ASSU and Utah with us.

Look out for #1 should be our only mindset right now.
I think it's made up imo. It's been UA can/will move without and now after the Apple deal drops it's suddenly we won't move without them. B.S.
If it is true than Robbins just proved with out a doubt it's true what everyone says about him .
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:39 am Always gatekeeping and thinking about the long term and they get their comeuppance
“It was a short conversation”

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Unfortunately it seems getting the perceived blame for the downfall of the pac 12 might actually work on booby Robbins
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I hate this.

Robbins basically ruining our AD and school during his tenure
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CalStateTempe wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:02 am I hate this.

Robbins basically ruining our AD and school during his tenure
I think we should wait to see how this situation shakes out before blaming Robbins......we really don't have any public information on what he is actually doing at the moment.

I would also point out that Robbins has mostly inherited this mess......which has been over a decade in the making.

If we want to blame someone we should look at who was the UA President when Larry Scott was voted into power.....and then never questioned what he was doing.
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I thought the rumor was Robbins met with Yormark yesterday in Houston? That has to be a good sign I would think.

Just don’t see how he comes to a conclusion that doesn’t have us move
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Fair enough, but let’s just say how Robbins handled the Miller fiasco leaves a lot to be desired.

And I’m glad we’ve e moved in from Miller but still.
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azcat49 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 am I thought the rumor was Robbins met with Yormark yesterday in Houston? That has to be a good sign I would think.

Just don’t see how he comes to a conclusion that doesn’t have us move
Deep in my wildcat heart I hope this rumor is true J.
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What do the coaches want? Any inside info?
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azcat49 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 am I thought the rumor was Robbins met with Yormark yesterday in Houston? That has to be a good sign I would think.

Just don’t see how he comes to a conclusion that doesn’t have us move
Yes, that is one of the MANY rumors out there. Unfortunately, thats pretty much all we have to operate off right now.......rumors.

Thats why I pointed out that we need to let this situation play itself out before looking for torches and pitchforks and anointing scapegoats.
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