Who should replace Fisch?
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Who should replace Fisch?
I like SMU coach Rhett Lashlee.
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This is interesting.
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I said it before Shereen. Great minds, etc…
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Chi did, and I concurred!
Pete would be a homerun hire with Brennan in the wings. Pete is one of the few coaches that could retain a good chunk of players.
We all know that a lot of player wanted to play for Fisch due to his NFL background.
Pete would be a homerun hire with Brennan in the wings. Pete is one of the few coaches that could retain a good chunk of players.
We all know that a lot of player wanted to play for Fisch due to his NFL background.
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
Kevin Sumlin is available.
Re: Who should replace Fisch?
There's no way Pete Carrol would be interested.
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I said we should hire Pete as DC the day he got fired.
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Who has no head coaching experience?
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I'm still waiting for someone to bring up Dino Babers. Someone always does.
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We need someone who won’t shit the bed… but can’t be too good that they get poached in a couple years.
Who could get us to a shitty bowl game every year?
Who could get us to a shitty bowl game every year?
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We need another down-trending, over-the-hill retread…
… likely to stay longer!
… likely to stay longer!
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He has said that he still has the energy to coach and still wants to. Perfect caretaker position for Pete, just a year or two contract since he is 72 and get Brennan some OC experience by letting him call plays.
Chuck Cecil! Ricky Hunley!
A couple of lifelong position coaches, outside of one year for Cecil at DC which was a disaster.
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The likelihood of the hire is inverse to our approval of the guy.
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
No doubt Fisch strung out the contract thing and took the $9M/year in hand now versus hoping for Florida next year. For him strategically correct. While here, he said all the right things like any politician, but we were never going to keep him long-term. So we move on a year early. So be it. Too often, a college administration responds to an angry fan base with some opposite of the last coach, which is not a good plan. Tomey wasn't the disciplinarian or passing coach some wanted...so we wound up with John Mackovic. We tried for the up-and-comer at a bargain with the inexperienced Stoops. Then Byrne brought in RichRod, who wasn't terrible, before Robbins pushed Sumlin, for whatever reason. So, while Fisch laid out a perfect template for Arizona football, the temptation might be to go with a more simplistic Joe College type who you hope is all about ivy covered walls of academia and who won't be a mercenary. While landing somebody for the Fisch template replacement may be impossible, I'm also skeptical about finding a competent and endlessly loyal Joe College. That said, unless we can get somebody with serious coordinator experience in college and/or pro who will double as head coach and fairly brilliant offensive coordinator, I'd go with an experienced, but youngish (so not bridging to retirement) college head coach, which sounds like Brennan.
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Most of us were in forBrennan 3 years ago.
Still wouldn’t mind Carroll and Carroll
Not feeling Frost
Still wouldn’t mind Carroll and Carroll
Not feeling Frost
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
Ken N. anybody? Too soon?
We can run the tripple option like Khalil Tate said.
We can run the tripple option like Khalil Tate said.
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"Bend Over and Bear Down!"
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
Brennan Carroll should have the necessary connections. Could do a lot worse.
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
Brennan Carroll has my vote.
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Mike McCarthy might be available…
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GJ Kinne is the most intriguing name on that list. Went to the UTSA vs Texas State game earlier this year with my nephew. The energy on the Texas state sideline off the charts. The Players and their fans were pumped, and kept that energy throughout the game. You could see that Kinne had built a great culture there in a short time there.
Come to think of it, hiring UTSA coach Jeff Traylor wouldn't make me upset either. That would be a well established Texas pipeline.
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ewwwwwwwww
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
Don’t do that.
Not that my Carroll idea is based on any different logic.
Not that my Carroll idea is based on any different logic.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Yeah at this point we just need someone who will have us be 8-5 every year then we'll always go bowling but never lose our coach but we'd never win anythingAlieberman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:17 pm We need someone who won’t shit the bed… but can’t be too good that they get poached in a couple years.
Who could get us to a shitty bowl game every year?
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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I heard Nick Saban is available, he's the one that started all this.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
IF
IF
IF you can keep almost everyone you go for broke this year and do what the players want. If not you go Odom.
Seriously though Pete Carrol for 3 years then his son in waiting
IF
IF you can keep almost everyone you go for broke this year and do what the players want. If not you go Odom.
Seriously though Pete Carrol for 3 years then his son in waiting
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STATEMENT FROM ARIZONA VICE PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS DAVE HEEKE
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2024/1 ... heeke.aspx
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2024/1 ... heeke.aspx
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Yeah, whatever. I just don't see the point of following this abortion of a football program anymore.arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:11 pm STATEMENT FROM ARIZONA VICE PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS DAVE HEEKE
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2024/1/nd 14/football-message-from-arizona-ad-dave-heeke.aspx
I'm the guy at work and amongst friends that everybody knows bleeds Arizona football red and blue. I've followed this program since 1981 and stuck with them through periods of mediocrity interspersed with terms of just laughable incompetence. And now, finally when we have a great season and are looking at a good chance of winning our new conference, we get the carpet pulled out from under us.
Fuck this program. Beardown while it's stuck up our ass.
I'm fucking done.
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
I would be ok with Nansen. At least we wouldn't completely suck next year. Carroll makes way more sense in every other way IMO. To bad we can't make Carroll and Nansen Co- Head Coaches and pay both 3 mil per. That way when assholes with money start sniffing around they won't know which one to hire.
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I was right there with you until you said fuck the program. It's not the program's fault. You should have said fuck Fisch. He's the one that's been blowing smoke up our ass.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:22 pmYeah, whatever. I just don't see the point of following this abortion of a football program anymore.arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:11 pm STATEMENT FROM ARIZONA VICE PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS DAVE HEEKE
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2024/1/nd 14/football-message-from-arizona-ad-dave-heeke.aspx
I'm the guy at work and amongst friends that everybody knows bleeds Arizona football red and blue. I've followed this program since 1981 and stuck with them through periods of mediocrity interspersed with terms of just laughable incompetence. And now, finally when we have a great season and are looking at a good chance of winning our new conference, we get the carpet pulled out from under us.
Fuck this program. Beardown while it's stuck up our ass.
I'm fucking done.
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Losers gonna keep losing
This is when fans and boosters are most needed
Wanna cry like a baby go ahead and stay away
This is when fans and boosters are most needed
Wanna cry like a baby go ahead and stay away
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There’s only 1 person here who could turn this into a negative on the fans…
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He is just where I am at.... extremely exhausted continuing to care. We all know the Big 12 will probably just end up another feeder football conference for the eventual Big 2. That is on the assumption nothing is done to stop the current trajectory of college athletics and the lethal injection of Corporate poison. If consolidation continues why even care? I am sure someday there will be a 2nd tier division with a 2nd tier championship to keep those 2nd tier fans interested, but I think we all know many won't care, including myself(nor should they).ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:42 pmI was right there with you until you said fuck the program. It's not the program's fault. You should have said fuck Fisch. He's the one that's been blowing smoke up our ass.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:22 pmYeah, whatever. I just don't see the point of following this abortion of a football program anymore.arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:11 pm STATEMENT FROM ARIZONA VICE PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS DAVE HEEKE
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2024/1/nd 14/football-message-from-arizona-ad-dave-heeke.aspx
I'm the guy at work and amongst friends that everybody knows bleeds Arizona football red and blue. I've followed this program since 1981 and stuck with them through periods of mediocrity interspersed with terms of just laughable incompetence. And now, finally when we have a great season and are looking at a good chance of winning our new conference, we get the carpet pulled out from under us.
Fuck this program. Beardown while it's stuck up our ass.
I'm fucking done.
I was really hoping Fisch was a rare breed who didn't care about money and instead wanted the legacy of building a fresh program from scratch(which would eventually lead to much more money and nicer weather). Nope. Problem is no coach wants that anymore. Money and an established recruitable brand matters more because it's easier and more lucrative, even if they fail. All about the Benji's.
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I like Nansen for the new coach after how much he improved our defense.
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Calling out the trajectory of college football is one thing - and something most of us agree with. Calling our program an abortion because a hypocrite fucked us in the ass is something else.CopaCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:18 pmHe is just where I am at.... extremely exhausted continuing to care. We all know the Big 12 will probably just end up another feeder football conference for the eventual Big 2. That is on the assumption nothing is done to stop the current trajectory of college athletics and the lethal injection of Corporate poison. If consolidation continues why even care? I am sure someday there will be a 2nd tier division with a 2nd tier championship to keep those 2nd tier fans interested, but I think we all know many won't care, including myself(nor should they).ProfessorFate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:42 pmI was right there with you until you said fuck the program. It's not the program's fault. You should have said fuck Fisch. He's the one that's been blowing smoke up our ass.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:22 pmYeah, whatever. I just don't see the point of following this abortion of a football program anymore.arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:11 pm STATEMENT FROM ARIZONA VICE PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS DAVE HEEKE
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2024/1/nd 14/football-message-from-arizona-ad-dave-heeke.aspx
I'm the guy at work and amongst friends that everybody knows bleeds Arizona football red and blue. I've followed this program since 1981 and stuck with them through periods of mediocrity interspersed with terms of just laughable incompetence. And now, finally when we have a great season and are looking at a good chance of winning our new conference, we get the carpet pulled out from under us.
Fuck this program. Beardown while it's stuck up our ass.
I'm fucking done.
I was really hoping Fisch was a rare breed who didn't care about money and instead wanted the legacy of building a fresh program from scratch(which would eventually lead to much more money and nicer weather). Nope. Problem is no coach wants that anymore. Money and an established recruitable brand matters more because it's easier and more lucrative, even if they fail. All about the Benji's.
I'm just fucking pissed. I was gonna go on a rant but I'm just gonna call it a day and see if the sun comes up tomorrow.
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
Pete Carroll?
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Dave isn’t going to say anything because he won’t know who the coach is until the rest of us do.arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:11 pm STATEMENT FROM ARIZONA VICE PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS DAVE HEEKE
"I want to thank Coach Fisch for his tireless work and relentless dedication to rebuilding Arizona Football into a point of pride for the entire Wildcat Family. While we did not want to see Coach Fisch leave and made every effort to retain him by continuing our investment in the football program, we wish him the best as he begins a new chapter in his career.
As for next steps, we have a shared vision for the program and our student-athletes. Arizona Football is well positioned for future success and championship excellence, and I am confident we will attract a new leader who will continue the positive trajectory of our nationally ranked football program. The national search for a new head coach is already underway, and I will refrain from any public comments until our next head coach is announced." - Arizona Vice President & Director of Athletics Dave Heeke
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Would nancen even consider leaving TX?
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Promote Brennan Carroll to HC and Dougherty to offensive coordinator. You maintain continuity with recruiting and the system. Promote Kafusi to Defensive coordinator, he served in that capacity at Weber State and has coached all different aspect of the defense. With Kafusi you maintain that polynesian connection and keep Nansen from pirating him off to Texas. Again you maintain consistency in your system and recruiting. Keeping all the assistant coaches will help keep all those good players from leaving as well. I see that Mr Akina wasted no time unassing Arizona.
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I would think so, for a Power 4 head coaching position.
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We'll continue to be a stepping stone until we can offer more money to coaches and players. PERIOD. To have that kind of money we need more powerful/generous boosters, a more-ardent fan base that buys season tix,travels, and contributes to NIL collaboratives, and a more effective and innovative school administration that can grow the exposure of the school.
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No matter who Arizona replaces Fisch with, they'll be replacing him in 3-4 years, guaranteed...
... the only variable will it be for "good" reasons (left for bigger job), or "bad" reasons (he's a loser).
... the only variable will it be for "good" reasons (left for bigger job), or "bad" reasons (he's a loser).
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Re: Who should replace Fisch?
What about Barry Odom from UNLV or Justin Wilcox from Cal?
Odom has SEC experience where, IMO, he was prematurely fired at Missouri. He's since had a great first year with UNLV.
Wilcox knows the West and its recruiting well and, having hit his ceiling at a limited Cal program, will appreciate a new coaching life.
Both cut their coaching teeth on the defensive side of the ball. And if it goes well, both are the type to stabilize the program, which Arizona badly needs given its thin margins for success.
Odom has SEC experience where, IMO, he was prematurely fired at Missouri. He's since had a great first year with UNLV.
Wilcox knows the West and its recruiting well and, having hit his ceiling at a limited Cal program, will appreciate a new coaching life.
Both cut their coaching teeth on the defensive side of the ball. And if it goes well, both are the type to stabilize the program, which Arizona badly needs given its thin margins for success.
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