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Merkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:11 am
pc in NM wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:50 am Every fans sadly remembers those game stats, but that doesn't mean that either one "shot us out of" anything!
That was my impression watching the games. Hard to quantify it otherwise. No published shot charts then, although the coaching staff had them for sure.

And at least with Gardner, the general consensus at TOS too.

Didn't have AOL during the Kerr years. Not sure if there were any UA forums otherwise on dial-up during the Kerr years. I asked my dial-up provider to add the PAC-10 newsgroup to usenet but they just ignored me.

Anyway, keeping to the current team, Love still takes ill advised shots.
Agreed on Caleb - but I also think he has improved a lot year-over-year...

My recollection of the '88 Final Four loss to Oklahoma, I don't have a real clear recall, but I remember that I did not " cringe" once on Kerr's jump shots at the release, and was shocked by how many missed. - "bad luck", not "bad shots"...
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I’ve got no problem with Love and his shot selection this year. Most of the time he takes bad shots is because no one else is hitting either. It’s doesn’t appear that he’s trying to play hero ball to me.
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gouacats wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:04 pm I’ve got no problem with Love and his shot selection this year. Most of the time he takes bad shots is because no one else is hitting either. It’s doesn’t appear that he’s trying to play hero ball to me.
He took two consecutive "bad" shots, was benched, and Pastner noted it.

There are times when you can see that, almost no matter what, he's gonna take a shot - it's like he just can't help himself! :o

That said, he's a great player, I love his game this year, and looking forward to what he's gonna lead us to...
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Nothing but best wishes for the 3 seniors who could return but won't.

In a way it's a good thing, because it's now or never for them in college ball.
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Merkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:26 pm Nothing but best wishes for the 3 seniors who could return but won't.

In a way it's a good thing, because it's now or never for them in college ball.
What I think would be interesting is if you collected (barrel or something) for NIL at games. I bet you'd get $20K a game.

Not sure why you say now or never. If they all came back I think never would be postponed.
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Great game by the Wildcats against the Oregon Ducks. My only concern was the bully ball COUISNARD played in the second half. That is exactly what Houston's guards do to their opponents and also what we have seen recently from Tennessee. This is a wakeup call but I assume it was a combination of factors. One was our big lead and the second being that Couisnard is the most experienced guard in the PAC along with being a great player.
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Thank you so much the seniors for your hard work and dedication. It's really appreciated and worthy of our respect and commendation. It was great to see Kenny Lofton be put into the ROH albeit long overdue. Great game by the Cats today. We really need this version of Boswell every game. Hopefully the team carries this momentum into the LA trip. I'd love to see Arizona win it's last Pac 12 game at Pauley. I hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend.
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TheCat wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:39 pm Not sure why you say now or never. If they all came back I think never would be postponed.
I thought it was made pretty clear they are gone, hence the senior ceremony. You don't go through that twice.

Back on old school for a sec, Josh mentioned that Lofton ran a great baseline on the 1-3-1. Just wanted to give props to Jason Gardner doing that too. Gardner was just as good if not better. When Shakur came in, he tended to cheat or get lazy. Probably the time Lute went away from it.
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AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:40 pm Coming Soon...
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wyo-cat wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:57 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:40 pm Coming Soon...
Coming Soon to a Truckstop near you.
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PHXCATS wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:10 pm Absolutely terrible
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That’s loser talk
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Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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so no thanks to ucla today, arizona has a half game lead on wazzu heading into the last week of the regular season. wsu has udub at home next week, and the 'cats make one last road trip to the socal schools. help me game out next week's matchups.

if wazzu wins:
uofa would need to at least split the ucla / usc series to win a share the reg season conf title ('cats win the conf outright if they sweep the LA schools; wsu wins it outright if uofa gets swept)

if wazzu loses:
uofa wins the title outright if they beat at least one of the LA schools (and is reg season co-champs with wazzu if the 'cats get swept)

is that right?

also, when was the last time the wsu won a title in the pac-* era? it would be pretty wild if they won a conference title in the final year of the pac-12. but it would be even wilder if they were to come thiiiiiiiiiis close to finally winning it, only to get cougblocked by arizona.
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If we lose 1 and Wassu wins next week we will tie for conf record but Wassu would be #1 since they own the tie-break over us by sweeping us
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I wouldn't be surprised to drop 1 game in L.A. but would to drop 2. Tommy Lloyd basically doesn't lose back to back games.

It would be nice to win the final Pac reg season title, but let's face it: this team has larger aspirations. I wanna see the "Arizona returns to the Final Four; first since 2001" headlines on the morning of March 31st.
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The way I see it - optimistic 'Cat Fan outlook.

11 games to go:
  • Sweep LA road trip
  • Win final Pac-12 Tourney
  • Win two in SLC
  • Win two in LA
  • Win two in home-state Final Four
The only real question is: Will Oumar finish with 20 consecutive double-doubles???

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Good chance to beat the record in LA looking at prior games.

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USC is playing much better basketball lately. Not predicting them to win but the game is much tougher than many thought the last several weeks
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FUCK USC FUCK UCLA FUCK asu FUCK USC FUCK UCLA
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So here's UCLA. Since we played them, they won six in a row (@ USC, OSU, Oregon, @ Stanford, @ Cal, Colorado), and then they've lost their last four in a row (Utah, USC, @ Washington, @ WSU.) If I understand correctly, Will McClendon will be suspended (first half?) after being ejected in the second half of the WSU game.

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TheCatInTheHat wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:11 pm So here's UCLA. Since we played them, they won six in a row (@ USC, OSU, Oregon, @ Stanford, @ Cal, Colorado), and then they've lost their last four in a row (Utah, USC, @ Washington, @ WSU.) If I understand correctly, Will McClendon will be suspended (first half?) after being ejected in the second half of the WSU game.

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ucla is a team that can look like absolute crap for entire halves of games, but then out of nowhere their guards will heat up and make people think they're about to turn the corner and go on a run. Against us, I'd expect them to shoot 70% from 3 and get every call.
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Some of it probably has to do with the mood of the team. You see their players fold their tents on the road, and you can easily assume Mini-Me has lost them, which I'd probably agree with if they were senior-laden. But, they're very young and I suspect can still be pretty easily influenced. So I can see baldy's pre-game speech about not letting us celebrate another likely title after a win at Pauley the last time they get us there. ASU is actually their last home game of the season, but it would be pretty flat after a Thursday loss to us. And no doubt our favorite munchkin will work the refs like there's no tomorrow. So, we need to prepare for them shooting lights out, and all the climbing backs, reach-overs, flops, punches, and elbows that he teaches.
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https://big12sports.com/news/2024/3/4/b ... ships.aspx

Clown show

Can't wait for football to break away from the ncaa in 10 years and we go back to the Pac-12 for all other sports
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:54 am https://big12sports.com/news/2024/3/4/b ... ships.aspx

Clown show

Can't wait for football to break away from the ncaa in 10 years and we go back to the Pac-12 for all other sports
Huh? Not seeing the problem with a press release talking about the plans for the tournament experience.
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Fishclamps wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:20 am
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:54 am https://big12sports.com/news/2024/3/4/b ... ships.aspx

Clown show

Can't wait for football to break away from the ncaa in 10 years and we go back to the Pac-12 for all other sports
Huh? Not seeing the problem with a press release talking about the plans for the tournament experience.
WWE bullshit again. Clown show. Unserious people
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That menu actually looks extremely tasty.

I would recommend Sonoran dogs for the UA experience next season. But since the Big 12 has their own dog, maybe green corn tamales or carne seca. Even a chimichanga, if you really really like chimichangas.

ASU can handle the drinks.

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Saying that, I have no interest in WWE or DJ Diesel, so I would just skip that part if I was attending.
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I’m in support of anything and everything that chaps Machina’s ass.

Unfortunately that list is longer than the Bible.
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It's just so weird.

I mean... I think it sucks that the PAC fucked up and broke apart. But it did... and it's not coming back.

I'm not going to make myself miserable about it... We're in the Big 12 now... so I'm trying to embrace it and look for the positives
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Alieberman wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:13 am It's just so weird.

I mean... I think it sucks that the PAC fucked up and broke apart. But it did... and it's not coming back.

I'm not going to make myself miserable about it... We're in the Big 12 now... so I'm trying to embrace it and look for the positives
Completely agree, although I will continue to advocate (whenever I can) to move the Post season Basketball tournament to Las Vegas.

I see no reason to permanently cede home court advantage to the Chicken-Hawks. Las Vegas is the entertainment capitol of the United States and a major sports mecca. It would be a major improvement over Kansas City (Cowtown)
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Might as well go out with a bang, although both work for ESPN too.
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Vegas for the B12 tourney would be 🔥
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Had dinner with a guy who is the head of entertainment at a hotel (he mostly oversee’s the casino hosts) and he told those of us at dinner he believes the Big 12 will move its basketball tournament in three years to Vegas. Take that info for what it’s worth.
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I think at 10 out of the 12 current B12 schools would want Vegas, just KU and KSU for travel reasons. Maybe OK State. I imagine it has to be unanimous to move it.
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Merkin wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:47 pm I think at 10 out of the 12 current B12 schools would want Vegas, just KU and KSU for travel reasons. Maybe OK State. I imagine it has to be unanimous to move it.
Why? After the agreement ends with Kansas City they can move easily wherever the commish wants
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“That agreement assured it of staying at the T-Mobile Center for 2026 and 2027. Kansas City has been the home of the men's tournament every year since 2010.”

That information aligns with what the guy told us. He said there is just to much money in play from Vegas and the Big 12 would be crazy to turn it down
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Good. Glad we can see it at Vegas before the splitoff
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Am I Misreading those charts?
Seems like those are only through 11 games.

Or does it mean we played 11 Q1 opponents?
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Yes those are total quad 1 games played
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Postmaster wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:35 pm Am I Misreading those charts?
Seems like those are only through 11 games.

Or does it mean we played 11 Q1 opponents?
Just vs Q1 games
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Wait til we are in the big 12 next year, its gonna be Q1 games bustin at the seams.
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arizonawildcats wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:44 am
I hope we get matched up with Bama again. That defense is a dumpster fire.
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