Official Bracketology Thread

[dmjcat]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

[Beachcat97]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

I was being facetious. I have no idea what the committee might be thinking. Apparently PHX does.

In all seriousness, it's very likely we'll be paired with Tennessee, and I'm fine with that.

[Chicat]

I’m convincing myself we’ll be a 4 seed in the East with every team that’s ever haunted my tournament nightmares in the same region.

[PHXCATS]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.

5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference

[PHXCATS]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

They 100% won't

They never do that. That's why Duke was the 1 seed in the West in 2011

Fuck duke

[dmjcat]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.

5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference

Wrong again PHXCATS.

In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.

[azgreg]

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-me ... ach-season

Procedures for Placing the Teams into the Bracket

1. The committee will place the four No. 1 seeds in each of the four regions, thus determining the Final Four semifinals pairings (overall 1 vs. 4; 2 vs. 3). The overall No. 1 seed has the opportunity to select its preferred first- and second-round site and preferred region.

2. The committee will then place the No. 2 seeds in each region in true seed list order. The committee may relax the principle of keeping teams as close to their area of natural interest for seeding teams on the No. 2 line to avoid, for example, the overall No. 5 seed being sent to the same region as the overall No. 1 seed. The committee will not compromise the principle of keeping teams from the same conference in separate regions.

3. The committee will then place the No. 3 seeds in each region in true seed list order.

4. The committee will then place the No. 4 seeds in each region in true seed list order.

5. After the top four seed lines have been assigned, the committee will review the relative strengths of the regions by adding the “true seed” numbers in each region to determine if any severe numerical imbalance exists. Generally, no more than five points should separate the lowest and highest total.

6. In “true seed” order, the committee then assigns each team (and, therefore, all teams in its bracket group—e.g., seeds 1, 8, 9, 16) to first-/second-round sites.

7. The committee will then place seeds Nos. 5-16 in the bracket, per the principles. The four teams assigned to the seed line, 5 through 16, will have the same numerical value.

Additional Considerations

1. If possible, rematches of non-conference regular-season games should be avoided in the First Four and first round. As a secondary consideration, the committee will attempt to avoid potential rematches from non-conference regular-season games in the second round. The committee will not consider moving teams up or down its true seed line to avoid non-conference rematches.

2. If possible, after examining the previous two years’ brackets, teams will not be moved out of its natural region or geographic area an inordinate number of times.

3. If possible, rematches from the previous tournament should be avoided in the First Four and first round.

[Alieberman]

Listen... anyone is entitled to their opinion... and some are better/ more realistic than others... but if you are claiming to know exactly what the committee will do you are a self absorbed narcissist

[PHXCATS]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.

5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference

Wrong again PHXCATS.

In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.

You clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put out

[dmjcat]

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.

5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference

Wrong again PHXCATS.

In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.

You clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put out

GO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.

[PHXCATS]

Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.

This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.

5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference

Wrong again PHXCATS.

In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.

You clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put out

GO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.

From the actual selection committee a few weeks ago

Overall seed in parentheses

Midwest
1-(1) Purdue
2-(6) Tennessee
3-(10) Baylor
4-(14) SDSU

West
1-(4) Arizona
2-(8) Kansas
3-(12) Duke
4-(13) Auburn

East
1-(2) UConn
2-(5) UNC
3-(11) Iowa St
4-(16) Wisconsin

South
1-(3) Houston
2-(7) Marquette
3-(9) Alabama
4-(15) Illinois


https://youtu.be/E-rPZwkYyBc?si=5JW6cmHPPdEhbZKH

So yeah.....

[arizonawildcats]

Bring it on.

[TheCat]

I understand that but it could make geographical sense

You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.

If Houston is the number 1 overall seed they can express an interest in the region they play.

[azgreg]

My interpretation of the NCAA link I posted is that the committee will start with 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, and 4 vs 5. After placing that they will make small adjustments towards their guidelines (proximity to home, etc.).

[dmjcat]

This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.

5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference

Wrong again PHXCATS.

In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.

You clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put out

GO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.

From the actual selection committee a few weeks ago

Overall seed in parentheses

Midwest
1-(1) Purdue
2-(6) Tennessee
3-(10) Baylor
4-(14) SDSU

West
1-(4) Arizona
2-(8) Kansas
3-(12) Duke
4-(13) Auburn

East
1-(2) UConn
2-(5) UNC
3-(11) Iowa St
4-(16) Wisconsin

South
1-(3) Houston
2-(7) Marquette
3-(9) Alabama
4-(15) Illinois


https://youtu.be/E-rPZwkYyBc?si=5JW6cmHPPdEhbZKH

So yeah.....

That was WEEKS ago (before our loss to WSU at home). The one constant in this game is that very little stays the same. You are an excellent example of linear thinking.

[PHXCATS]

Wrong again PHXCATS.

In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.

You clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put out

GO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.

From the actual selection committee a few weeks ago

Overall seed in parentheses

Midwest
1-(1) Purdue
2-(6) Tennessee
3-(10) Baylor
4-(14) SDSU

West
1-(4) Arizona
2-(8) Kansas
3-(12) Duke
4-(13) Auburn

East
1-(2) UConn
2-(5) UNC
3-(11) Iowa St
4-(16) Wisconsin

South
1-(3) Houston
2-(7) Marquette
3-(9) Alabama
4-(15) Illinois


https://youtu.be/E-rPZwkYyBc?si=5JW6cmHPPdEhbZKH

So yeah.....

That was WEEKS ago (before our loss to WSU at home). The one constant in this game is that very little stays the same. You are an excellent example of linear thinking.

The rankings in parentheses were the selection committee's overall rankings at the time. Not today

It proves that it is not automatically 4 overall vs 5 overall

It is all about location location location (once you factor out conferences and a few other small items)

[arizonawildcats]

[PHXCATS]

But but but but 4 and 5 are supposed to be in the same region.......

[PHXCATS]

I love that bracket by the way. Give me that place

[Merkin]

I love that bracket by the way. Give me that place

Same. That South regional is a killer.

[VegasCatFan]

I love that bracket by the way. Give me that place

Same. That South regional is a killer.

Personally, I'd rather have Tennessee than Iowa St. The little bit I've seen of Iowa St. reminds me a lot of Houston, who is another team I don't want anything to do with.

[Beachcat97]

Potential high drama opponents the committee would love to set us on a collision course against: Gonzaga, UNC, SDSU, Houston.

Then the possible rematches: Purdue, FAU, Bama, Duke.

And if they got in, this would top them all, of course: Xavier.

[Lute4God]

From the Star Sports Section today something I hadn't heard before from Lunardi:

"ESPN bracket guru Joe Lunardi said on ESPN that he expected the Wildcats would hang on to the final No. 1 seed if they don't lose before Selection Sunday.

'Arizona and Tennessee and, to a lesser extent, North Carolina and Marquette, are all in contention for the last No. 1 seed position,' Lunardi said. 'But Arizona is going to have to lose (to not get it) in part because they're the incumbent on that line (from the early reveal) and also because I think the committee over the years has shown that — all things being equal — it likes a team from out West to lead the West Region bracket.'"

[azgreg]

Lunardi making sense. Who'da thunk it?

[Beachcat97]

So basically, there's a lot at stake this week in L.A.

[Merkin]

Obviously hard to argue with Lunardi, but if Tennessee wins out that would be 3 Quad 1 wins in a row over ranked teams.

And UA winning both in LA is iffy, unless of course Boswell plays like he has the last 2 games. UA needs to win out, and Tennessee needs to lose one.

[PHXCATS]

Obviously hard to argue with Lunardi, but if Tennessee wins out that would be 3 Quad 1 wins in a row over ranked teams.

And UA winning both in LA is iffy, unless of course Boswell plays like he has the last 2 games. UA needs to win out, and Tennessee needs to lose one.

How is it iffy?

[UAdevil]

Obviously hard to argue with Lunardi, but if Tennessee wins out that would be 3 Quad 1 wins in a row over ranked teams.

And UA winning both in LA is iffy, unless of course Boswell plays like he has the last 2 games. UA needs to win out, and Tennessee needs to lose one.

How is it iffy?

Uhhh....sweeping the LA has ALWAYS been an iffy proposition.

[TheCat]

I want to win the conference. Don't care if we are a 1 or 2 seed. We won it all from a 4 seed so to me if we won the conference it would mean we are playing well down the stretch with no letdown.

[azcat49]

The odds to get to the FF as a 1 seed are almost twice as high as a 2 seed. Give me that 1 line.

40.5% to 21.6 and its three times as likely a 1 seed wins it all then a 2 seed

https://www.betfirm.com/seeds-national- ... ship-odds/

[PHXCATS]

Imagine rating negatively a post about being confident in beating UCLA and USC.

[PHXCATS]

The chances UA beats UCLA and USC is much higher than chances Tennessee beats South Carolina and Kentucky

[Merkin]

"Just win baby, win." - Al Davis

One game at a time too.

[PHXCATS]

BCIABC

[azgreg]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time Arizona swept the LA schools in LA was the 16-17 season.

[Merkin]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time Arizona swept the LA schools in LA was the 16-17 season.

Has to be, since the Cats have not beaten the Bruins at Pauley since 1/21/2017

[Beachcat97]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time Arizona swept the LA schools in LA was the 16-17 season.

Has to be, since the Cats have not beaten the Bruins at Pauley since 1/21/2017

We're their Super Bowl. It's been this way for a while, but it's especially true when they're having down years, which happens pretty consistently with that team.

[Alieberman]

Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1

[84Cat]

Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1

We're a 2 seed though on Bracket Matrix, Net still has us a 1. Ultimately, all we can do is sweep the LA schools and hope that Tennessee & UNC both trip up this week. I don't think the conference championships have much bearing on the seeds. All I ask is that we take care of business. Both UCLA & USC have losing records so losing to either of them seals our fate as a 2 seed

[dmjcat]

Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1

Bracket Matrix now has Tennessee as the clear #1 (overall #4) and the UA as a #2 seed (#5 overall).

That would put Tennessee as the #1 seed in the west and the UA as the #2........Don't anyone tell PHXCATS as he will have a heart attack as he has already declared that this can't happen.

I'm going to be a big time South Carolina fan tonight.

[Beachcat97]

Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1

Bracket Matrix now has Tennessee as the clear #1 (overall #4) and the UA as a #2 seed (#5 overall).

That would put Tennessee as the #1 seed in the west and the UA as the #2........Don't anyone tell PHXCATS as he will have a heart attack as he has already declared that this can't happen.

I'm going to be a big time South Carolina fan tonight.

All I think this tells us is that the last #1 seed remains up for grabs. Tennessee still has to take care of business this week and in their league tourney, as do we.

[PHXCATS]

Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1

Bracket Matrix now has Tennessee as the clear #1 (overall #4) and the UA as a #2 seed (#5 overall).

That would put Tennessee as the #1 seed in the west and the UA as the #2........Don't anyone tell PHXCATS as he will have a heart attack as he has already declared that this can't happen.

I'm going to be a big time South Carolina fan tonight.

No. Not at what was said

Let's have honest conversations please

[TheCat]

Guys there are a minimum of 3-5 games left. Who really cares if we are a 1 or 2 seed since we won't be playing the other team until the elite 8 if seeds hold true. It makes no difference. If Ariz can't beat a 15 and 7 to get there it won't matter. Anyone can win from any seed in the tourney. Most of these teams will have won their conference or tournaments and will be tough outs. Seeding has never held a lot of value to me....matchups and venue are what matters most to me.

[Chicat]

Every year I want to be a 1 seed . . . and then when we are I worry incessantly that we’ll be the first 1 to lose.

It’s a truly special time of year.

[azcat49]

Just in watching the Vol/SC game, I am not sure how SC has won as many games as they have. Was not impressed.

I still think if we win out we will get the 1 line

[Merkin]

Every year I want to be a 1 seed . . . and then when we are I worry incessantly that we’ll be the first 1 to lose.

#16 University of Maryland-Baltimore County beat #1 Tony Bennett's Virginia a few years ago.

If UA loses as a #2 seed for the 3rd time, that will be one record that will not be broken in my lifetime.

[Beachcat97]

Guys there are a minimum of 3-5 games left. Who really cares if we are a 1 or 2 seed since we won't be playing the other team until the elite 8 if seeds hold true. It makes no difference. If Ariz can't beat a 15 and 7 to get there it won't matter. Anyone can win from any seed in the tourney. Most of these teams will have won their conference or tournaments and will be tough outs. Seeding has never held a lot of value to me....matchups and venue are what matters most to me.

Agreed.

[PHXCATS]

Staying in the west matters more than seeding but staying the 1 seed would be huge. Being the overall 4 and having 8 and 12 in the region would be outstanding

[dovecanyoncat]

Just in watching the Vol/SC game, I am not sure how SC has won as many games as they have. Was not impressed.

I still think if we win out we will get the 1 line

Tennessee's high ball screen defense stymied the hell out of them.

[Beachcat97]

Just in watching the Vol/SC game, I am not sure how SC has won as many games as they have. Was not impressed.

I still think if we win out we will get the 1 line

Tennessee's high ball screen defense stymied the hell out of them.

Tennessee has looked very good the last few weeks.

But UConn and Houston look close to untouchable.