2023-2024 Arizona Basketball

[PHXCATS]

Great job. Definitely deserved

Bad day for the haters

[Beachcat97]

Have we ever had a transfer play just one season for us and win Pac POY in that season?

[84Cat]

[PHXCATS]

Have we ever had a transfer play just one season for us and win Pac POY in that season?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=pac+10+m ... f+the+year

[Chicat]

Have we ever had a transfer play just one season for us and win Pac POY in that season?

I think the only other transfer to win POY at any point was Chris Mills. But it wasn’t just one season.

[IndianaZonaFan]

I don’t think it’s likely that we end up with more than 1 player having an off night from here on. This past USC game was a one-off where we had 3-4 players having a bad to very bad night.

If this team comes out motivated and puts in effort, we have a chance to win every single game we have left.

We won’t be questioning anyone’s skill if we lose early…we will be questioning effort and mindset.

So let’s Bear the fuck Down!!!!!

[pc in NM]

I don’t think it’s likely that we end up with more than 1 player having an off night from here on. This past USC game was a one-off where we had 3-4 players having a bad to very bad night.

If this team comes out motivated and puts in effort, we have a chance to win every single game we have left.

We won’t be questioning anyone’s skill if we lose early…we will be questioning effort and mindset.

So let’s Bear the fuck Down!!!!!

I disagree about "effort", and don't know what you mean by "mindset". Maybe the latter is what I'd call "focus"

I do not believe that the loss to USC was entirely about players having an offnite, lack of effort, or poor motivation.

USC was excellent on defense, forced us into a perimeter game, and we broke down because we relied too much on dribble penetration.

• (Remember Mick Cronin's post-game whining Thursday: "They beat us off the dribble. They didn't really "run" anything because we couldn't stop them.")

• USC made 15 steals and scored 14 points off U of A turnovers!!!

• They forced us out of dribble penetration style, and we basically responded with turnovers and unassisted three-attempts.

• BUT!! We did do a great job of getting offensive rebounds (9 in the first half; 14 total! That resulted in ZERO points).

IMNSHO, That kind of play won't get you anywhere in the Tourney...

These shortcomings were NOT due to tired players. We're as well-conditioned as anyone.

These shortcomings were NOT due to lazy players. We played hard. They were "motivated".

These shortcomings were NOT due solely to poor individual play.

• Creating your own three-point shots is much lower percentage than catch-and-shoot three-pointers;

• Dribbling into a well organized and athletic defense is high risk;

• Over-dribbling must be replaced with good crisp passing, movement off-the-ball, and converting in the lane.

These shortcomings WERE due to unfocused players that heretofore can beat most teams (like UCLA on Thursday) with individual talent alone.

(Maybe your term "mindset" and my "unfocused are same/similar??)

Unfortunately, often for entire halves, sometimes whole games, the 'Cats become LESS THAN THE SUM OF THEIR PARTS. And I believe that that is primarily a matter of "focus".

[Lute4God]

Think about it. In a way, WSU screwed us a third time by losing to UW and making the Cats celebrate early.

WSU wins that one at home and there's no way UA loses at USC and are likely the #1 Seed out West.


Bring on the PAC Revenge Tour in Vegas!

[AZCatGirl]

Feels like we got punished a bit for having too many good players. They couldn't give all of them what they deserved.

On the plus side it feels like a great time to pick Bradley for RAP.

[84Cat]

[azgreg]

[UAEebs86]

Yuck

[azgreg]

[Beachcat97]

Terrible news.

[PHXCATS]

Clown conference

[KillerKlown]

Clown conference

We never asked for your location.

[azcat49]

The other day on a B1G game they said that the conference was looking at western sites for their tournament potentially. One can only think they look hard at Vegas, who is hungry to fill the PAC void

[PHXCATS]

The other day on a B1G game they said that the conference was looking at western sites for their tournament potentially. One can only think they look hard at Vegas, who is hungry to fill the PAC void

A conference with brains that isn't last place now

[azcat49]

I don’t get why you are so bent over this now. Not like we haven’t known the end was near since last summer.

Seems instead of being upset at the Big 12 you could target your anger toward Scott Or Kliavkoff. Or maybe the LA schools who really screwed us all.

Just seems like an odd time to be frustrated. We can’t stop the change and it’s still UofA sports, just different road games

[PHXCATS]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

[UAEebs86]

[PHXCATS]

Cool as a cucumber

Keep shitting on LeBron for being a good dad 86

[UAEebs86]

You are fucking ruining this place Machina.

[Chicat]

Machina gonna go cry in the car.

[Postmaster]

Not sure about using a song titled “Phoenix”.

[TheCat]

I wonder if we had someone on the committee that helped decide this? My only objection is you are basically playing a home game for Kansas and KSU. Also thru 31 is a funking long time and don't know what they are giving in return. Also I think hotel rooms are going to be hard and expensive to get.

[PHXCATS]

Not sure about using a song titled “Phoenix”.

Why?

Phoenix is part of Arizona, represents resurrection and is where the final four is this year

[Beachcat97]

Clown conference

We never asked for your location.

[IrishAzCat]

[g32knights]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

I'm glad you support the move to the Big 12. Now we won't have to play at truck stops anymore like Berkley, Palo Alto, Seattle, LA. i'm sure just like me you are really looking forward to visiting destination cities like Lubbock and Ames.

[Chicat]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

I'm glad you support the move to the Big 12. Now we won't have to play at truck stops anymore like Berkley, Palo Alto, Seattle, LA. i'm sure just like me you are really looking forward to visiting destination cities like Lubbock and Ames.

I wonder where “Cities Arizona fans desire to visit” landed on the list of pros/cons the administrations put together to decide whether to bolt for the Big12 or stick in the PAC-8?

[AzCatFan2]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

I'm glad you support the move to the Big 12. Now we won't have to play at truck stops anymore like Berkley, Palo Alto, Seattle, LA. i'm sure just like me you are really looking forward to visiting destination cities like Lubbock and Ames.

I wonder where “Cities Arizona fans desire to visit” landed on the list of pros/cons the administrations put together to decide whether to bolt for the Big12 or stick in the PAC-8?

Probably higher than you think. Because cool places to visit often become places to live. And there are more UA Alumni with deep pockets in L. A., Seattle, and San Francisco than all of BIG12 country combined.

But we had no choice. It was either BIG12 or join WSU and OSU. We made the only half decent decision we could. Just don't expect all of us to be happy about it.

[g32knights]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

I'm glad you support the move to the Big 12. Now we won't have to play at truck stops anymore like Berkley, Palo Alto, Seattle, LA. i'm sure just like me you are really looking forward to visiting destination cities like Lubbock and Ames.

I wonder where “Cities Arizona fans desire to visit” landed on the list of pros/cons the administrations put together to decide whether to bolt for the Big12 or stick in the PAC-8?

Probably higher than you think. Because cool places to visit often become places to live. And there are more UA Alumni with deep pockets in L. A., Seattle, and San Francisco than all of BIG12 country combined.

But we had no choice. It was either BIG12 or join WSU and OSU. We made the only half decent decision we could. Just don't expect all of us to be happy about it.

I am definitely happy about it. Better competition outweighs where you're playing. We were in a conference with schools that could give two shits about sports.

[Chicat]

I wonder where “Cities Arizona fans desire to visit” landed on the list of pros/cons the administrations put together to decide whether to bolt for the Big12 or stick in the PAC-8?

Probably higher than you think.

So like …. in the 150th-175th range? That’s higher than I think it would be or should be.

[CalStateTempe]

Not sure about using a song titled “Phoenix”.

Why?

Phoenix is part of Arizona, represents resurrection and is where the final four is this year

lol fucking townie…

[CalStateTempe]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

I'm glad you support the move to the Big 12. Now we won't have to play at truck stops anymore like Berkley, Palo Alto, Seattle, LA. i'm sure just like me you are really looking forward to visiting destination cities like Lubbock and Ames.

I wonder where “Cities Arizona fans desire to visit” landed on the list of pros/cons the administrations put together to decide whether to bolt for the Big12 or stick in the PAC-8?

Probably higher than you think. Because cool places to visit often become places to live. And there are more UA Alumni with deep pockets in L. A., Seattle, and San Francisco than all of BIG12 country combined.

But we had no choice. It was either BIG12 or join WSU and OSU. We made the only half decent decision we could. Just don't expect all of us to be happy about it.

I am definitely happy about it. Better competition outweighs where you're playing. We were in a conference with schools that could give two shits about sports.

Bingo.

Better comp and more eyeballs east of the Mississippi on cats games.

[AzCatFan2]

Better competition in men's basketball? Yes. Football and all other sports? Debatable. We're also going to be competing with schools making nearly 2X from TV deals than us and other BIG12 schools. How long can we compete against that? TBD.

More eyeballs? Also debatable. Arizona Basketball is already a national brand, but Arizona football is not. We'll see if our TV ratings jump at all. I'm not overly optimistic.

What we lose? Opportunities for the AD and President to connect with alumni in CA and WA. 17% of UA students are from California (2nd) and in 4th is WA with 2.2%. And again, more potential big money donors live in these states than all BIG12 states combined other than Arizona. If we are to compete with about 50% of the TV budget, it's going to make it even more difficult if we potentially lose out because there are no football/basketball games in CA and WA to meet with potential donors. I would expect Reed-Francois will be scheduling non-conference games in these locations in the near future to help.

[arizonawildcats]

[Merkin]

^ Should have put Krivas on there too.

Better competition in men's basketball? Yes. Football and all other sports? Debatable. We're also going to be competing with schools making nearly 2X from TV deals than us and other BIG12 schools. How long can we compete against that? TBD.

Announcer: In fact, UA football has rarely been competitive in the WAC and PAC as evidenced by never winning a sole football championship in either conference.

[ChooChooCat]

Better competition in men's basketball? Yes. Football and all other sports? Debatable. We're also going to be competing with schools making nearly 2X from TV deals than us and other BIG12 schools. How long can we compete against that? TBD.

More eyeballs? Also debatable. Arizona Basketball is already a national brand, but Arizona football is not. We'll see if our TV ratings jump at all. I'm not overly optimistic.

What we lose? Opportunities for the AD and President to connect with alumni in CA and WA. 17% of UA students are from California (2nd) and in 4th is WA with 2.2%. And again, more potential big money donors live in these states than all BIG12 states combined other than Arizona. If we are to compete with about 50% of the TV budget, it's going to make it even more difficult if we potentially lose out because there are no football/basketball games in CA and WA to meet with potential donors. I would expect Reed-Francois will be scheduling non-conference games in these locations in the near future to help.

Alumni in Washington? lol ok. You're seriously worried about that? Anybody ever notice a large Arizona contingent when we played in Seattle or Pullman? Anybody? Bueller? I'd never expect us to schedule a Washington school on purpose ever again outside of UW football maybe twice every other decade and Gonzaga if Tommy ever leaves.

Arizona can and will play road games in California and truthfully that's the only state that matters in your entire whinefest of a post. Also in regards to competing in basketball with programs that will make way more money than us, I'll just point to the two teams in last year's national championship game and tell you to shut up.

As far as the more eyeballs thing goes, well shit we're not going to have to worry about the Pac 12 Network ever again, so that's an automatic boost. Coupled that with more games taking place in Central time zone and it'll help us quite a bit.

[arizonawildcats]

Women got one, too.

[Chicat]

What we lose? Opportunities for the AD and President to connect with alumni in CA and WA. 17% of UA students are from California (2nd) and in 4th is WA with 2.2%. And again, more potential big money donors live in these states than all BIG12 states combined other than Arizona.

I’d love to see the list you got those percentages from.

Also, big money donors travel to see Arizona play. They don’t wait for Arizona to come near them like poor schlubs like me. So that point is totally useless.

[Chicat]

A few of the reps at the company that owns those digital boards are Arizona alumni. So I’m fairly sure we got a good deal.

[AzCatFan2]

The percentage of students comes from College Factual (https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges ... e_vignette). They use IPEDS information, which is a standard database for college students by school.

Seattle is home to several Fortune 500 Companies including Amazon, Boeing, Costco, Microsoft, Starbucks and more. Having lived in the area for the years and attended a few alumni events, I can tell you the AD and President would prefer to travel to Seattle to meet these alumni, than Lubbock or Morgantown, which are cool college towns, but not the home of many, if any potential big time UA donors.

Now I'm not arguing we made a mistake. With no B1G or SEC offer, and the PAC crumbling, the BIG12 was our best option. But losing access to CA and WA, and making about 50% of what schools in the B1G and SEC are making? That's far from optimal.

[Chicat]

I would consider where alumni live to be the more pertinent stat when it comes to where we play. I went to UA from NY but live in the Chicago area now.

But you did notice Illinois and Texas there right in the top 5?

[ChooChooCat]

The percentage of students comes from College Factual (https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges ... e_vignette). They use IPEDS information, which is a standard database for college students by school.

Seattle is home to several Fortune 500 Companies including Amazon, Boeing, Costco, Microsoft, Starbucks and more. Having lived in the area for the years and attended a few alumni events, I can tell you the AD and President would prefer to travel to Seattle to meet these alumni, than Lubbock or Morgantown, which are cool college towns, but not the home of many, if any potential big time UA donors.

Now I'm not arguing we made a mistake. With no B1G or SEC offer, and the PAC crumbling, the BIG12 was our best option. But losing access to CA and WA, and making about 50% of what schools in the B1G and SEC are making? That's far from optimal.

Couldn't give two shits less about Washington as I said before, especially since no major U of A grad working for any of those companies is raking in the dough, but I agree with the rest being far from optimal. As you said though we didn't have a choice. There will be more movement before you know it and our job is to be heads and shoulders above the dipshits in Tempe.

[CalStateTempe]

What we lose? Opportunities for the AD and President to connect with alumni in CA and WA. 17% of UA students are from California (2nd) and in 4th is WA with 2.2%. And again, more potential big money donors live in these states than all BIG12 states combined other than Arizona.

I’d love to see the list you got those percentages from.

Also, big money donors travel to see Arizona play. They don’t wait for Arizona to come near them like poor schlubs like me. So that point is totally useless.

The way some of us are talking about moving conferences is like how businesses did meetings before zoom.

OMG our donors will never follow AZ cause there are in a different conference!

Tell that to the money ‘d Chicago, NYC, DC cats alums.

[CalStateTempe]

A few of the reps at the company that owns those digital boards are Arizona alumni. So I’m fairly sure we got a good deal.

Do those reps live in formal PAC12 states and are they “oh-no’ing” about the conference change?

By the way this digital billboard is bad ass and I love it. Machina probably hates it, which makes me love this even more.

[Chicat]

By the way this digital billboard is bad ass and I love it. Machina probably hates it, which makes me love this even more.

There are actually four of them right in the heart of downtown. I bought them for Big12 Tourney, NCAA Tourney and the NFL draft last year for my beer client.

I know certain people think KC is a cowtown, and in some ways it is, but they are about the population of Tucson and yet have so much more going on.

[dovecanyoncat]

End of the Pac12

Fuck greed
Fuck thr Big 12
Fuck Big 12 stans
Fuck fox
Fuck espn
Fuck realignment
Triple fuck realignment stans

I'm glad you support the move to the Big 12. Now we won't have to play at truck stops anymore like Berkley, Palo Alto, Seattle, LA. i'm sure just like me you are really looking forward to visiting destination cities like Lubbock and Ames.

Don't miss the Branch Davidian interactive theme park in Waco!!